BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?

Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time of
the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David

wrote:
Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time
of the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so
the BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was
made on Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on
BBC1 and BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David

I know what you described happened on terrestial digital, I can only assume
the same applied to satellite at the time.
--
Adrian

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Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time of
the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David




Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor watch DOG
disfigured services.

Secondly, I did watch 2 BBC FLAW shows this week on BBC TWO and there was no
DOG ****.

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not want
DOGs.

I take great comfort in knowing that as the BBC has said my wishes and
tastes will be ignored and there is nothing to discuss about the matter, I
have not paid the BBC for 3 years.

The BBC is in denial of the truth of the issue and operates a policy of
stonewalling complaints, denying access to research and data, and refusing
to implement sensible alternative strategies to solving the various
problems.

****'em.

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Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time of
the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David



This website covered the 1998 issues very well:

http://625.uk.com/dogwatch/

"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not want
DOGs.

Out of curiosity, where'd that figure come from?

--
Dave Farrance

"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
...
"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not want
DOGs.

Out of curiosity, where'd that figure come from?

--
Dave Farrance


The BBC.

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

David


.....DOGS???

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me2 wrote:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

David


....DOGS???

Digital Originated Graphics.
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"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

"Dave Farrance" wrote
"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not want
DOGs.

Out of curiosity, where'd that figure come from?

The BBC.

OK. Since the BBC seem to be DOG zealots (seen News24 lately?), what
would you bet that the question was asked in a way that confused the
screen-burning DOG with the desirable channel-ident that most TVs now
display for a few seconds after changing the channel?

--
Dave Farrance

"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
...
"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

"Dave Farrance" wrote
"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not
want
DOGs.

Out of curiosity, where'd that figure come from?

The BBC.

OK. Since the BBC seem to be DOG zealots (seen News24 lately?), what
would you bet that the question was asked in a way that confused the
screen-burning DOG with the desirable channel-ident that most TVs now
display for a few seconds after changing the channel?

--
Dave Farrance


Many people have asked to see the BBC's "research". Some have submitted FoI
Act requests. The BBC has always refused to release the information.

When BBC THREE published a story on BBC NEWS last year, the BBC Editorial
rules required that they "see" the research the BBC quoted. They then
quickly removed and buried the story to prevent licence fee payers from
tracing the evidence.