UPS and surge protection for LCD TV

Anyone have any experience or knowledge of Uninterruptable Power Supplies
and surge protectors for large screen projection TV's?
I have a Hitachi 60" LCD projection TV and I'm considering a UPS/Surge
protection device. There are specific "home theater" units with additional
features as well as standard UPS units for computer protection. The computer
types are of course cheaper. Can they also be used for simple backup with my
TV? What size power rating and joule capacity should I look for?
I'm also considering the Monster HTUPS 500. Anybody familiar with this
product? What do you think of it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Howard

Monster. Ugh. Buy a real UPS from the experts, APC.

http://apc.com/products/category.cfm?id=15&subid=80

We use a lot of UPSs, we are an ISP. Also, I have an APC on my Qualia set.

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Robert


"Howard" wrote in message
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Anyone have any experience or knowledge of Uninterruptable Power Supplies
and surge protectors for large screen projection TV's?
I have a Hitachi 60" LCD projection TV and I'm considering a UPS/Surge
protection device. There are specific "home theater" units with additional
features as well as standard UPS units for computer protection. The
computer types are of course cheaper. Can they also be used for simple
backup with my TV? What size power rating and joule capacity should I look
for?
I'm also considering the Monster HTUPS 500. Anybody familiar with this
product? What do you think of it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Howard

Anything with Monster is over priced
"r" inv wrote in message ...
Monster. Ugh. Buy a real UPS from the experts, APC.

http://apc.com/products/category.cfm?id=15&subid=80

We use a lot of UPSs, we are an ISP. Also, I have an APC on my Qualia
set.

-
Robert


"Howard" wrote in message
. ..
Anyone have any experience or knowledge of Uninterruptable Power Supplies
and surge protectors for large screen projection TV's?
I have a Hitachi 60" LCD projection TV and I'm considering a UPS/Surge
protection device. There are specific "home theater" units with
additional features as well as standard UPS units for computer
protection. The computer types are of course cheaper. Can they also be
used for simple backup with my TV? What size power rating and joule
capacity should I look for?
I'm also considering the Monster HTUPS 500. Anybody familiar with this
product? What do you think of it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Howard

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 18:57:19 -0700, Howard wrote:

Anyone have any experience or knowledge of Uninterruptable Power Supplies
and surge protectors for large screen projection TV's?

It doesn't matter what's plugged into it, you just want clean regulated
power from a UPS. I've bought several hundred over the years. I've got 3
in the house now.

I have a Hitachi 60" LCD projection TV and I'm considering a UPS/Surge
protection device. There are specific "home theater" units with additional
features as well as standard UPS units for computer protection. The computer
types are of course cheaper. Can they also be used for simple backup with my
TV?

I sure hope so since I've been using them for that for years.:-)

What size power rating and joule capacity should I look for?

That depends on how much power everything you are going to hook to it
uses. If you're only going to put the TV on, check the max wattage in the
TV specs.

I'm also considering the Monster HTUPS 500. Anybody familiar with this
product? What do you think of it?

I've seen the OEM version of this somewhere for about half that price. At
that price, I didn't even waste my time reading the specs.

There are regulated and unregulated UPS's. Regulated with surge protection
constanly runs on conditioned power. Crap like APC Back-Ups are
unregulated and run on wall power til it drops below whatever you set it
for (the one good feature this unit has). So you want a regulated UPS.
Other important things are how easy the battery/batteries is to change,
and the size of the battery. Battery cost vary greatly depending on size.
Some smaller ones cost more than more widely used larger ones. And the
battery will need to be changed about every 2 years. I've had a great
little Powercom 650VA unit I've been using for many years, but changing
the batteries (it has 2) is a real pita. Avoid units like this if you can.
The last UPS I bought was a Belkin F6C625-SER. I've had it several years
and it's been very reliable. The battery was easy to change although the
last time the battery needed replacing I hooked up a much larger battery
outside the case for a longer run time. I didn't want to spend 4 times as
much for a larger UPS when all I really wanted was a longer run time. if
you aren't a cheap sob like me then just get a 1500VA unit and it'll
probably give you at least an hour of runtime on you TV asssuming your Tv
draws about 300W.

Wouldn't touch the Monster unit or an APC Back-Ups unit, and the APC
Smart units are way overpriced IMO. Belkin and Powercom offer good value.
And there's probably a few other good choices. Just make sure it has
regulated power and you should be fine.


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Jim Riggs wrote:
Anything with Monster is over priced

That's what "Monster" really stands for. ;-)

"Howard" wrote in message
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Anyone have any experience or knowledge of Uninterruptable Power Supplies
and surge protectors for large screen projection TV's?
I have a Hitachi 60" LCD projection TV and I'm considering a UPS/Surge
protection device. There are specific "home theater" units with additional
features as well as standard UPS units for computer protection. The
computer types are of course cheaper. Can they also be used for simple
backup with my TV? What size power rating and joule capacity should I look
for?
I'm also considering the Monster HTUPS 500. Anybody familiar with this
product? What do you think of it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Howard

Skip the UPS unless you have very frequent power outages. Like expensive
filtering or line conditioners, it just is not necesssary in most cases.
You can get good solid surge protection for a.c. and all incoming lines for
under $100 from Tripplite or Panamax.

Make sure your electrical system, cable, sat, or antenna grounds are done
properly, are tight and clean. Wothour proper grounding any protection is
less effective. Adding a whole house suppression unit at the electrical
panel is a good idea as well.

Leonard

I have the Monster 1000 for both my LCDs and there still alive after a
lightning bolt struck my phone pole in front of my house. Meanwhile many
other appliances and electronic devices died. So I am happy. And I didnt pay
much, about 120.00 on ebay. They were brand new.
Mike





"Howard" wrote in message
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Anyone have any experience or knowledge of Uninterruptable Power Supplies
and surge protectors for large screen projection TV's?
I have a Hitachi 60" LCD projection TV and I'm considering a UPS/Surge
protection device. There are specific "home theater" units with additional
features as well as standard UPS units for computer protection. The
computer types are of course cheaper. Can they also be used for simple
backup with my TV? What size power rating and joule capacity should I look
for?
I'm also considering the Monster HTUPS 500. Anybody familiar with this
product? What do you think of it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Howard

Howard,

For some time now, my Samsung 56" DLP HDTV, DirecTV DVR (HR10-250) as
well as a Samsung DVD/VCR player and Yamaha 5.1 home theater sound
system have gotten power from an APC BackUPS 550. Here in Florida a UPS
unit is an absolute necessity for all electronics due to frequent brief
power interruptions. Some of them are due to lightning in the vicinity
and others probably due to load-balancing switching done by the power
company.

Most of these interruptions are very brief and would otherwise not be
much of a problem except that the satellite receiver takes several
minutes to reboot and resynchronize, plus any recording would be
discontinued and presumably not resumed automatically. The DLP TV also
takes a while to restart. The UPS bridges such brief interruptions and
prevents these restarts. My unit will run the entire system for 5 to 10
minutes or so, which gives me time to shutdown in an orderly manner if
the outage is longer, such as when a hurricane knocks out power for
several days.

As others have mentioned, there are numerous issues to consider when
selecting a UPS. I have bought several APC as well as other brands for
use with computers and have found them all to be quite satisfactory. I
would recommend watching the ads from the various office supply stores
and taking advantage of any special offers. For your system a 600VA unit
or larger should be adequate. I wouldn't waste my money on overpriced
"Monster" units.

Unfortunately higher rated units do not necessarily provide much more
running time, since the power rating refers to the power handling
capability of the electronic components and does not specify the battery
capacity. Since many units use 12V sealed lead-acid batteries, hooking
up an external high-capacity battery would provide significantly longer
running time. However, if outages are so long that a larger battery is
needed, perhaps a generator would be a good alternative and could power
additional important appliances, such as the refrigerator, during such
lengthy outages. The UPS would presumably keep the electronics powered
long enough to hook up and start the generator.

Good luck!

Don
Jupiter, FL


"Howard" wrote in
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Anyone have any experience or knowledge of Uninterruptable Power
Supplies and surge protectors for large screen projection TV's?
I have a Hitachi 60" LCD projection TV and I'm considering a UPS/Surge
protection device. There are specific "home theater" units with
additional features as well as standard UPS units for computer
protection. The computer types are of course cheaper. Can they also be
used for simple backup with my TV? What size power rating and joule
capacity should I look for? I'm also considering the Monster HTUPS
500. Anybody familiar with this product? What do you think of it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Howard

"Monster. Ugh"
"Anything with Monster is over priced"
"Skip the UPS unless you have very frequent power outages. "
"I have the Monster 1000 for both my LCDs and there still alive after a
lightning bolt struck "
"home theater sound system have gotten power from an APC BackUPS 550. "

Thanks guys. Lots of info, lots of opinions.
I thought the Monster was overpriced but I really didn't know if a computer
type UPS would work with my system.
My concern was also addressed by Don Moe (thanks, Don) as I too live in
Florida. Central Florida to be exact, which is the lightning capital of
North America. We get lots of power outages and I'm sure surges, whih I'm
not aware of but I'd rather not become aware the hard way.
I'll start searching for a good deal on a UPS/Surge unit in the 500 to 650
volt range.
I appreciate all the help. Happy 4th to all of you.

Howard

"Howard" wrote in message
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Anyone have any experience or knowledge of Uninterruptable Power Supplies
and surge protectors for large screen projection TV's?
I have a Hitachi 60" LCD projection TV and I'm considering a UPS/Surge
protection device. There are specific "home theater" units with additional
features as well as standard UPS units for computer protection. The
computer types are of course cheaper. Can they also be used for simple
backup with my TV? What size power rating and joule capacity should I look
for?
I'm also considering the Monster HTUPS 500. Anybody familiar with this
product? What do you think of it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Howard

I have the 70" Director series version of this TV. I have the 500 APC on
mine and another to run the DVR and other defices. Keeps the system safe
from surges, allows for a controlled shutdown in the event of power outage.

"Howard" wrote in message
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Anyone have any experience or knowledge of Uninterruptable Power Supplies
and surge protectors for large screen projection TV's?
I have a Hitachi 60" LCD projection TV and I'm considering a UPS/Surge
protection device. There are specific "home theater" units with additional
features as well as standard UPS units for computer protection. The
computer types are of course cheaper. Can they also be used for simple
backup with my TV? What size power rating and joule capacity should I look
for?
I'm also considering the Monster HTUPS 500. Anybody familiar with this
product? What do you think of it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Howard