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Old July 2nd 06, 06:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Lynne
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I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to PACE
digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box, none referenced
in the manual).

On the odd occasions, (Star Trek for example) I get an image of a persons
face, in which the apparent texture of the cheek area, er............moves,
as though that area of the film has somehow shifted................!

Doesn't happen if I watch that same scene on video or DVD.

Spoke to Panasonic, who made me contact a Panasonic authorised repairer.
He said (over the phone) that it's not the T.V but the way the digibox is
handling the compression of the MPEG4 material.

So far so good..............................I think.

So what's the remedy, two separate people have stated two separate
solutions,
1) I get a superior digibox, to which I respond, like what?
2) I get a high definition service, even though the T.V is not set up for
high definition. Never mind I was told, the way the boxes handle MPEG4
will provide a superior information on to your screen.

Mmmmm, not quite convinced, but willing to bow to high grade techie advice.

Cheers


Lynne


  #2  
Old July 2nd 06, 06:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Adrian A
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Default Hope this question makes techie sence!

Lynne wrote:
I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to
PACE digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box, none
referenced in the manual).

On the odd occasions, (Star Trek for example) I get an image of a
persons face, in which the apparent texture of the cheek area,
er............moves, as though that area of the film has somehow
shifted................!

Doesn't happen if I watch that same scene on video or DVD.

Spoke to Panasonic, who made me contact a Panasonic authorised
repairer.
He said (over the phone) that it's not the T.V but the way the
digibox is handling the compression of the MPEG4 material.

So far so good..............................I think.

So what's the remedy, two separate people have stated two separate
solutions,
1) I get a superior digibox, to which I respond, like what?
2) I get a high definition service, even though the T.V is not set
up for high definition. Never mind I was told, the way the boxes
handle MPEG4 will provide a superior information on to your screen.

Mmmmm, not quite convinced, but willing to bow to high grade techie
advice.

Cheers


Lynne


It sounds like someone is trying to fob you off, MPEG4 is currently only
used for HD broadcasts. I assume you're not talking about Sky HD or the
terrestrial HD trial that's being carried out in London.


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Old July 2nd 06, 08:31 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Lynne
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"Adrian A" wrote in message
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Lynne wrote:
I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to
PACE digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box, none
referenced in the manual).

On the odd occasions, (Star Trek for example) I get an image of a
persons face, in which the apparent texture of the cheek area,
er............moves, as though that area of the film has somehow
shifted................!

Doesn't happen if I watch that same scene on video or DVD.

Spoke to Panasonic, who made me contact a Panasonic authorised
repairer.
He said (over the phone) that it's not the T.V but the way the
digibox is handling the compression of the MPEG4 material.

So far so good..............................I think.

So what's the remedy, two separate people have stated two separate
solutions,
1) I get a superior digibox, to which I respond, like what?
2) I get a high definition service, even though the T.V is not set
up for high definition. Never mind I was told, the way the boxes
handle MPEG4 will provide a superior information on to your screen.

Mmmmm, not quite convinced, but willing to bow to high grade techie
advice.

Cheers


Lynne


It sounds like someone is trying to fob you off, MPEG4 is currently only
used for HD broadcasts. I assume you're not talking about Sky HD or the
terrestrial HD trial that's being carried out in London.


No, not talking about HD broadcast.....................I'm based in the
Hi-tech black hole that is Eastbourne!


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Old July 2nd 06, 09:08 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Lynne" wrote in message
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I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to

PACE
digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box, none

referenced
in the manual).

On the odd occasions, (Star Trek for example) I get an image of a

persons
face, in which the apparent texture of the cheek area,

er............moves,
as though that area of the film has somehow shifted................!

Doesn't happen if I watch that same scene on video or DVD.

Spoke to Panasonic, who made me contact a Panasonic authorised

repairer.
He said (over the phone) that it's not the T.V but the way the

digibox is
handling the compression of the MPEG4 material.

So far so good..............................I think.

So what's the remedy, two separate people have stated two separate
solutions,
1) I get a superior digibox, to which I respond, like what?
2) I get a high definition service, even though the T.V is not

set up for
high definition. Never mind I was told, the way the boxes handle

MPEG4
will provide a superior information on to your screen.

Mmmmm, not quite convinced, but willing to bow to high grade techie

advice.

Cheers


Lynne




I suspect a very common problem. If your Pace box is putting the
signal out at RF as well as on SCART (as mine does) then it could be
down to poor isolation in the video switch inside the TV which is
leaking some of the 'off-air' signal through whilst you watch the
SCART signal. If this is the case there is probably little you can do
about it.

Have you tried switching between the CVBS and RGB outputs of the
digibox? Might help.


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Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com


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Old July 2nd 06, 10:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Adrian A
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Lynne wrote:
"Adrian A" wrote in message
...
Lynne wrote:
I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to
PACE digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box,
none referenced in the manual).

On the odd occasions, (Star Trek for example) I get an image of a
persons face, in which the apparent texture of the cheek area,
er............moves, as though that area of the film has somehow
shifted................!

Doesn't happen if I watch that same scene on video or DVD.

Spoke to Panasonic, who made me contact a Panasonic authorised
repairer.
He said (over the phone) that it's not the T.V but the way the
digibox is handling the compression of the MPEG4 material.

So far so good..............................I think.

So what's the remedy, two separate people have stated two separate
solutions,
1) I get a superior digibox, to which I respond, like what?
2) I get a high definition service, even though the T.V is not
set up for high definition. Never mind I was told, the way the
boxes handle MPEG4 will provide a superior information on to your
screen.

Mmmmm, not quite convinced, but willing to bow to high grade techie
advice.

Cheers


Lynne


It sounds like someone is trying to fob you off, MPEG4 is currently
only used for HD broadcasts. I assume you're not talking about Sky
HD or the terrestrial HD trial that's being carried out in London.


No, not talking about HD broadcast.....................I'm based in
the Hi-tech black hole that is Eastbourne!


That means they were trying to fob you off and lied to you. I'm sorry I
don't have an answer to your original question.
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Adrian


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Old July 3rd 06, 12:55 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mike Redrobe
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Default Hope this question makes techie sence!

Lynne wrote:
I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to PACE
digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box, none
referenced in the manual).

On the odd occasions, (Star Trek for example) I get an image of a
persons face, in which the apparent texture of the cheek area,
er............moves, as though that area of the film has somehow
shifted................!
Doesn't happen if I watch that same scene on video or DVD.

Spoke to Panasonic, who made me contact a Panasonic authorised
repairer. He said (over the phone) that it's not the T.V but the way the
digibox is handling the compression of the MPEG4 material.


If that model is an LCD, it may the "mpeg smoothing" setting on your TV.
Try turning it off, or down to "Min".

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Old July 3rd 06, 01:06 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Hope this question makes techie sence!

Had exactly this problem with my Mum's Pace, which suffered from local
interference. It was as if areas of the image got 'left behind' during
small movements, very strange.


Lynne wrote:
I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to PACE
digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box, none referenced
in the manual).

On the odd occasions, (Star Trek for example) I get an image of a persons
face, in which the apparent texture of the cheek area, er............moves,
as though that area of the film has somehow shifted................!

Doesn't happen if I watch that same scene on video or DVD.

Spoke to Panasonic, who made me contact a Panasonic authorised repairer.
He said (over the phone) that it's not the T.V but the way the digibox is
handling the compression of the MPEG4 material.

So far so good..............................I think.

So what's the remedy, two separate people have stated two separate
solutions,
1) I get a superior digibox, to which I respond, like what?
2) I get a high definition service, even though the T.V is not set up for
high definition. Never mind I was told, the way the boxes handle MPEG4
will provide a superior information on to your screen.

Mmmmm, not quite convinced, but willing to bow to high grade techie advice.

Cheers


Lynne


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Old July 3rd 06, 02:01 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Darren Wilkinson
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Default Hope this question makes techie sence!

Lynne wrote:
I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to PACE
digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box, none referenced
in the manual).

On the odd occasions, (Star Trek for example) I get an image of a persons
face, in which the apparent texture of the cheek area, er............moves,
as though that area of the film has somehow shifted................!

Doesn't happen if I watch that same scene on video or DVD.

Spoke to Panasonic, who made me contact a Panasonic authorised repairer.
He said (over the phone) that it's not the T.V but the way the digibox is
handling the compression of the MPEG4 material.


He is right about that; but I hope it is you that said MPEG4 and not him. Normal
Digital TV uses MPEG" and any repairer should know that.

It might be worth checking if the error is happening due to a weak signal as
maybe that is how the box copes with it.

So far so good..............................I think.

So what's the remedy, two separate people have stated two separate
solutions,
1) I get a superior digibox, to which I respond, like what?


Just post a message here saying something like "What digibox should I buy?" and
you should get a few answers.

2) I get a high definition service, even though the T.V is not set up for
high definition. Never mind I was told, the way the boxes handle MPEG4
will provide a superior information on to your screen.

An extravagant and possibly senseless idea. High definition boxes also need high
definition connections which the tv won't have. There are also very few high
definition channels on satellite and non on freeview unless you are taking part
in a closed trial. That means that even if you high def box could output to your
standard definition tv it would get no better picture than your normal box most
of the time as it would be fed the same MPEG2 that most channels use. There
isn't really a was to get a hi def service without a subscription anyway.

Even if that wasn't a problem and your desired channel happens to have a hi def
service running you'd still be losing ~ half the "superior information" by
connecting the box to *your* screen.

Mmmmm, not quite convinced, but willing to bow to high grade techie advice.


What whoever gave you advice no 2) said may be technically correct but also
proves that they are far removed from the real world.
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Old July 3rd 06, 12:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Margaret Willmer
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Lynne wrote:
I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to PACE
digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box, none referenced
in the manual).


Is this what used to be called "Ghosting"? That was an aerial problem I
think. Maybe this comment is just a redherring. If so I apologise.

Margaret
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Old July 4th 06, 07:04 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Lynne
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ups.com...
Had exactly this problem with my Mum's Pace, which suffered from local
interference. It was as if areas of the image got 'left behind' during
small movements, very strange.


Lynne wrote:
I have a Panasonic TX 32PD50 T.V, (full working order) connected to PACE
digibox (sorry can't give a spec or ref number for the box, none
referenced
in the manual).

On the odd occasions, (Star Trek for example) I get an image of a persons
face, in which the apparent texture of the cheek area,
er............moves,
as though that area of the film has somehow shifted................!

Doesn't happen if I watch that same scene on video or DVD.

Spoke to Panasonic, who made me contact a Panasonic authorised repairer.
He said (over the phone) that it's not the T.V but the way the digibox is
handling the compression of the MPEG4 material.

So far so good..............................I think.

So what's the remedy, two separate people have stated two separate
solutions,
1) I get a superior digibox, to which I respond, like what?
2) I get a high definition service, even though the T.V is not set up
for
high definition. Never mind I was told, the way the boxes handle
MPEG4
will provide a superior information on to your screen.

Mmmmm, not quite convinced, but willing to bow to high grade techie
advice.

Cheers


Lynne



Had exactly this problem with my Mum's Pace, which suffered from local
interference. It was as if areas of the image got 'left behind' during
small movements, very strange.

That's a good way of describing it, sometimes the whole display shimmers,
can be disconcerting, to see the image of a person face distort in that
manner............
Have no problems at all with live broadcast, The news (live), sports (live),
gardening, DIY etc

But Sky One, some Law & Order stuff on Hallmark, that's a whole different
issue

Thanks for the suggestions, I will go through them one by one and see what
may assist

Cheers

Lynne


 




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