Software update on SKY+ pace V1 boxes- Public relations farce!

On 2006-07-01, Jomtien wrote:
David Taylor wrote:

Those customers all already agreed to Sky updating the software when
they signed the Sky+ contract...

And those who have never signed a Sky contract? My FTV Sky+ also
stopped working thanks to the recent firmware cock-up.

FTV Sky+, how does that work then? If you're not paying the
10 pounds a month, why bother with a Sky+ box?

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David Taylor

On 2006-07-01, Jomtien wrote:
Mike Henry wrote:

How exactly could Sky test their software to be sure that it was
compatible with the 100's if not 1000's of different and unauthorised
modifications which people might have made to their box?

Quite. There must be many different sizes and makes of drives in use out
there - bearing in mind that the exact number of sectors varies between
manufacturers for the same quoted capacity.

It doesn't look as though Sky tested this firmware with anything other
than the standard drive.

Why _should_ it work on anything other than the standard drive?

Have you ever done software development?

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David Taylor

"David Taylor" wrote in message
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Those customers all already agreed to Sky updating the software when
they signed the Sky+ contract...
Good point.
If I didn't buy from Sky, I didn't sign any contract.
So what right have they got to update my software?
If you haven't signed a contract from Sky your Sky+ box is unlikely

I was asking theoretically.
I don't have a Sky+ box (I have Sky HD)

But I do have a regular Sky box in another room as an FTA box.
The same principle applies.
Do Sky have the right to update it's software?

Loz

"David Taylor" wrote in message
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It doesn't look as though Sky tested this firmware with anything other
than the standard drive.

Why _should_ it work on anything other than the standard drive?

Has the Sky+ only ever had one make/type of HD fitted?

Loz

On 2006-07-01, loz wrote:

"David Taylor" wrote in message
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It doesn't look as though Sky tested this firmware with anything other
than the standard drive.

Why _should_ it work on anything other than the standard drive?

Has the Sky+ only ever had one make/type of HD fitted?

I have no idea. Why _should_ it work on anything other than the standard
drive(s)?

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David Taylor

On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 07:53:13 +0200, Jomtien wrote:

And those who have never signed a Sky contract? My FTV Sky+ also
stopped working thanks to the recent firmware cock-up.

Hold it! Your FTV Sky+ ?

What happened to "I will never pay for Sky+, it is a rip-off, blah
blah blah blah blah.. etc." ?

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"David Taylor" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-01, loz wrote:

"David Taylor" wrote in message
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It doesn't look as though Sky tested this firmware with anything other
than the standard drive.

Why _should_ it work on anything other than the standard drive?

Has the Sky+ only ever had one make/type of HD fitted?

I have no idea. Why _should_ it work on anything other than the standard
drive(s)?

That's what I was attempting to ask.
What _is_ the "standard" drive?
If Sky have regularly swopped brands/types etc, then the only "standard" is
going to be something like "any IDE drive".
Wheras if Sky have consistently stuck to a single brand/type, then yes that
is the "standard".

Loz

On 2006-07-01, loz wrote:

"David Taylor" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-01, loz wrote:

"David Taylor" wrote in message
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It doesn't look as though Sky tested this firmware with anything other
than the standard drive.

Why _should_ it work on anything other than the standard drive?

Has the Sky+ only ever had one make/type of HD fitted?

I have no idea. Why _should_ it work on anything other than the standard
drive(s)?

That's what I was attempting to ask.
What _is_ the "standard" drive?

Whatever drive, or drives, they have fitted to their boxes.

If Sky have regularly swopped brands/types etc, then the only "standard" is
going to be something like "any IDE drive".

Nope. The supported drives would still only consist of those they've
sold in the boxes -- those are the only ones they have any legal
obligation to keep working (but IANAL). If they decide that it's better
for business to spend some money to keep some subscribers happy, that's
their choice. But no one can force them to do so.

Wheras if Sky have consistently stuck to a single brand/type, then yes that
is the "standard".

It doesn't matter if Sky have sold one box with each model of hard drive
in existance, except for one. They still would have no obligation to
make that one model work.

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David Taylor

David Taylor wrote:
On 2006-07-01, loz wrote:
"David Taylor" wrote in message
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Those customers all already agreed to Sky updating the software when
they signed the Sky+ contract...
Good point.
If I didn't buy from Sky, I didn't sign any contract.
So what right have they got to update my software?

If you haven't signed a contract from Sky your Sky+ box is unlikely
to work very well anyway.


I bought my sky plus box privately and upgraded from standard sky
package via the phone so have never seen, nor signed any revised T&C.
As I reconnected to sky via the phone I'm sure I never signed any t&C
then either though they did send a pack later.
They screw up my box I will not be happy.

Mike

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-01, Jomtien wrote:
David Taylor wrote:

Those customers all already agreed to Sky updating the software when
they signed the Sky+ contract...

And those who have never signed a Sky contract? My FTV Sky+ also
stopped working thanks to the recent firmware cock-up.

FTV Sky+, how does that work then? If you're not paying the
10 pounds a month, why bother with a Sky+ box?

Because it has a different set of IR codes and is therefore much easier
to use in the same room as a normal digibox.

Dont you need a Sky+ box to get 5.1?

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