HD...I'm curious

Zero Tolerance wrote:

Dad's Army and Python were mostly shot on video.

The film inserts (which probably were never stored after being
transferred to the master videotape) were often shot on 16mm,

I think what you mean to say is that the studio scenes were shot on
video and the outdoor scenes were shot on film. This applies to
virtually every such BBC programme made in those decades.
For many programmes (including Python) that would mean that a large
proportion was indeed shot on film.

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"Electric Frog" wrote in message
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You're correct it'll be the late 80's where the problem lies as they
started to use Video, I have Season 1 Hill Street Blues and it looks awful
on my HDTV
Hill Street Blues looks awful on ANY TV!

On Sat, 27 May 2006 09:35:05 +0200, Jomtien wrote:

Zero Tolerance wrote:

Dad's Army and Python were mostly shot on video.

The film inserts (which probably were never stored after being
transferred to the master videotape) were often shot on 16mm,

I think what you mean to say is that the studio scenes were shot on
video and the outdoor scenes were shot on film. This applies to
virtually every such BBC programme made in those decades.

That is what I said, since many of those programmes were predominantly
studio based (outside filming being far more expensive and therefore
only being used sparingly).

For many programmes (including Python) that would mean that a large
proportion was indeed shot on film.

It would mean that a certain amount, usually not the majority, was
shot on film, and, as I said, transferred to videotape. The original
film material (a) often does not exist, (b) was never shot on a high
enough quality film format to bring any benefit for HD use.

As I said, anything shot and edited completely on 35mm film and where
that original film exists, would be a very good candidate for HD
mastering.

Anything shot mostly on video, featuring a handful of played-in
inserts shot on 16mm, and where only the VT copy of that film still
exists, would be a very poor candidate indeed for HD use. And that
includes Dad's Army and Python.

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"bixx" wrote in message
news ...surely with all the repeats on BBC not all of the BBC HD output is
going to be Planet Earth and Attenborough documentaries. Surely
they're
going to have to start broadcasting Dad's Army and a bunch of old
Python
stuff at some stage.

Excuse my ignorance (and the time to go a hunting in these groups),
but
how is that going to look?
P

You are correct, not all of the content on HD channels will be HD.
When
SD
material is broadcast on a HD channel I imagine it will look much the
same
as it would on a SD channel

AIUI, SD content (TV, DVD, VCR) looks worse on an HDTV than it does on
an
SDTV.

This is very dependent on the TV. Some HDTVs are poor at displaying sd
resolutions, but some are very good.

My Sony Bravia 3lcd 50inch does an excellent job of hd (from the xbox360
and
original chipped xbox) and sd from tivo, gamecube and sky etc.

The capacity for a Tivo picture ( a recompressed mpeg2 stream, often from
an
initially poor bitrate signal) to look poor on a 50 inch screen is pretty
huge, but no, the picture quality is pretty good.

Ta for the info. Out of interest, what's the model number for that one and
what price is one? (Just to give me some idea)

50" is too big for me (oo-er, missus!) as I sit probably too close to my
32"
WS normal telly as it is. Plus, I've got stuff on top of it which would
fall
off a flatscreen

I believe it is a KDF-E50A12U

Gaz

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 00:20:11 GMT, "The Wizard"
wrote:

As I've mentioned before *Ancient Dads Army and Python* is probably the
REAL
reason the TV companies (Especially Sky) are trying to get TV watched
again
and of course in Skys case an excuse to raise the subscription prices.
All this to make utter tripe,dogs,dots,coming soon/next banners look
better???

WTF are you talking about now?

Well if you don't know you've been brainwashed by todays broadcasting
standards!


In the Days of Dads Army/Python etc, We got quality programming and
ignored
how bad or good the picture was.

Like hell you did. Your memory is playing tricks on you - it's easy to
remember the programmes you liked from that age and then assume that
everything broadcast those days was of an equal standard. Let me tell
you, it wasn't. Look at an average night's line-up from 30 years ago
and there'll be hardly anything that wasn't shown once and never seen
again. Show that kind of material today and a channel would be
bankrupt within hours.

Strange UK Gold does it now showing the same BBC stuff from 30 years ago,
The difference then was there was'nt as many repeats as the channels do
these days.

"The Wizard" wrote in message
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Strange UK Gold does it now showing the same BBC stuff from 30 years ago,
The difference then was there was'nt as many repeats as the channels do
these days.




presumably because they only broadcast for a fraction of the time they do
now!
would you really want bbc 1 to close down for teatime these days?



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"the dog from that film you saw" wrote
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presumably because they only broadcast for a fraction of the time they do
now!
would you really want bbc 1 to close down for teatime these days?


I would be happy for the BBC to close down permanently

On Sun, 28 May 2006 04:11:01 GMT, "The Wizard"
wrote:

WTF are you talking about now?

Well if you don't know you've been brainwashed by todays broadcasting
standards!

Alternatively perhaps your brain is so addled with age that you can't
make yourself clear.

Strange UK Gold does it now showing the same BBC stuff from 30 years ago,
The difference then was there was'nt as many repeats as the channels do
these days.

If you think that UK Gold is representative of what you would ACTUALLY
have seen on TV 30 years ago then you are very, very much mistaken.

I would conduct an actual comparison, but UK Gold's website only has
the schedule for today and tomorrow, large chunks of which are "Not
ready yet". How very like them.

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"the dog from that film you saw"
wrote in message ...


presumably because they only broadcast for a fraction of the time they do
now!
would you really want bbc 1 to close down for teatime these days?


I would be happy for the BBC to close down permanently

Contact the RSPCA ASAP, They like DOG lovers (Which is all we'd have without
the BBC) !!

I'd prefer Sky went bust and took it's American TV programming tactics with
it for good.

"The Wizard" wrote in message
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I would be happy for the BBC to close down permanently

Contact the RSPCA ASAP, They like DOG lovers (Which is all we'd have
without the BBC) !!

I'd prefer Sky went bust and took it's American TV programming tactics
with it for good.

So the BBC don't use DOGs Eh?
What a load of ********.
As for American shows, great, something with a style, instead of sad little
UK soaps where everyone is depressed all the time, or left wing ********
posing as entertainment.
If the BBC wants to carry on, fine, but on a commercial setting so I can
choose not to pay for the crap they dish out or not as the case might be.
Before you start with again your anti Sky crap, I can choose not to take
this if I want. With the BBC I have no choice