TiVo announces new pricing plans

http://www.tivo.com/cms_static/press_82.html

Here are the highlights:

* The price for a TiVo box and a one-year service commitment is $19.95
a month or $224 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a two-year service commitment is $18.95
a month or $369 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a three-year service commitment is
$16.95 a month or $469 prepaid

- The product lifetime service option will be eliminated next week.

- The changes to the pricing structure and service-only options will
launch next week. The changes will not affect TiVo's current base of
subscriptions.

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On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:08:23 +0000, Mike Hunt wrote:


http://www.tivo.com/cms_static/press_82.html

Here are the highlights:

* The price for a TiVo box and a one-year service commitment is $19.95
a month or $224 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a two-year service commitment is $18.95
a month or $369 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a three-year service commitment is
$16.95 a month or $469 prepaid

- The product lifetime service option will be eliminated next week.

Looks like it time to update the comparison again. I was thinking the sub
price was $9.95 a month when I bought mine. Doubled in 4 years. Not good.


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On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:15:12 +0000, Seth wrote:

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On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:08:23 +0000, Mike Hunt wrote:


http://www.tivo.com/cms_static/press_82.html

Here are the highlights:

* The price for a TiVo box and a one-year service commitment is
$19.95
a month or $224 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a two-year service commitment is
$18.95
a month or $369 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a three-year service commitment is
$16.95 a month or $469 prepaid

- The product lifetime service option will be eliminated next week.

Looks like it time to update the comparison again. I was thinking the sub
price was $9.95 a month when I bought mine. Doubled in 4 years. Not good.


Slow down there cowboy. When you change the service fee to $19.95, make
sure you change the purchase/entry price to ZERO$$$ as the monthly includes
the hardware.

I Didn't change it to 19.95 a month. I based it on the cheaper 3 year
prepaid price of $469.

Not to mention I wouldn't bother making any changes to your chart on
this news as this news regards the SD units.

So, you think they'll offer a lifetime on the HD unit? Not likely. And if
the sub price is going to be the same, I'll garauntee there will be an up
front cost for the hardware. I left that at $500, for a total of $969 for
3 years of service. And I bet that's lower than it will actually be. The
cost to make the S3 is going to be a lot more than the S2. It wouldn't
suprise me to see an $800 or more sticker price plus the sub fee. Yeah,
Tivo loves you.:-)

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On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:15:12 +0000, Seth wrote:

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:08:23 +0000, Mike Hunt wrote:


http://www.tivo.com/cms_static/press_82.html

Here are the highlights:

* The price for a TiVo box and a one-year service commitment is
$19.95
a month or $224 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a two-year service commitment is
$18.95
a month or $369 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a three-year service commitment is
$16.95 a month or $469 prepaid

- The product lifetime service option will be eliminated next week.

Looks like it time to update the comparison again. I was thinking the
sub
price was $9.95 a month when I bought mine. Doubled in 4 years. Not
good.


Slow down there cowboy. When you change the service fee to $19.95, make
sure you change the purchase/entry price to ZERO$$$ as the monthly
includes
the hardware.

I Didn't change it to 19.95 a month. I based it on the cheaper 3 year
prepaid price of $469.

Not to mention I wouldn't bother making any changes to your chart on
this news as this news regards the SD units.

So, you think they'll offer a lifetime on the HD unit?

No announcement on the HD, so really, NOTHING to change.

Not likely. And if
the sub price is going to be the same, I'll garauntee there will be an up
front cost for the hardware. I left that at $500, for a total of $969 for
3 years of service. And I bet that's lower than it will actually be. The
cost to make the S3 is going to be a lot more than the S2. It wouldn't
suprise me to see an $800 or more sticker price plus the sub fee. Yeah,
Tivo loves you.:-)

See, this is pretty positive proof that you will try your best to spin thins
to suit your argument. Either make changes that match the press release, or
do nothing as the press release doesn't say anything specifically about the
HD unit. To make up your own numbers is dishonest and ridiculous.

On 2006-03-09, Bob wrote:

Not to start a war here about this and that, but once we've paid for the
equipment, all you're really getting from Tivo is program guide info that
you're most likely getting from your cable provider already, or OTA if you
don't have cable. (I'm leaving DTV out as their pricing is completely
different.)

You're also getting access to the OS/interface and all the TiVo features
(MRV, HMO, TTG, etc.) Having a superior user interface and unique
features (Wishlist, Season Pass, etc.) still has value which people are
willing to pay for. It's much more than just "program guide info".

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"Mike Hunt" wrote in message
...
On 2006-03-09, Bob wrote:

Not to start a war here about this and that, but once we've paid for the
equipment, all you're really getting from Tivo is program guide info that
you're most likely getting from your cable provider already, or OTA if
you
don't have cable. (I'm leaving DTV out as their pricing is completely
different.)

You're also getting access to the OS/interface and all the TiVo features
(MRV, HMO, TTG, etc.) Having a superior user interface and unique
features (Wishlist, Season Pass, etc.) still has value which people are
willing to pay for. It's much more than just "program guide info".

But really, it has nothing to do with what one gets or doesn't get. It's
just a pricing model. TiVo chooses to license their software how they
choose. Too many people are under the misconception that they BUY software.
It is licensed under the terms of the license holder.

I paid for the O/S and interface, wishlist abilities, season passes etc.
when I bought the boxes. That was part of the OS when I purchased the box.

Granted, from time to time there are enhancements to all that but not
everyone uses all that stuff. At 20 bucks a month, that's a little steep for
program guide info.



"Mike Hunt" wrote in message
...
On 2006-03-09, Bob wrote:

Not to start a war here about this and that, but once we've paid for the
equipment, all you're really getting from Tivo is program guide info
that
you're most likely getting from your cable provider already, or OTA if
you
don't have cable. (I'm leaving DTV out as their pricing is completely
different.)

You're also getting access to the OS/interface and all the TiVo features
(MRV, HMO, TTG, etc.) Having a superior user interface and unique
features (Wishlist, Season Pass, etc.) still has value which people are
willing to pay for. It's much more than just "program guide info".

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"Randy S." wrote:

It's why I've stopped even trying to correct him, he has no base in
reality. I think it's important to note that no one else has even
*speculated* as to a price or pricing model for the s3, as we have no
idea what they may do. There's just nothing to even speculate on. Will
they have an upfront cost or just monthly? Will there be a lifetime
option? What will the monthly fee be? None of these questions are even
remotely answerable, particularly since even Tivo probably hasn't
decided yet.

If they are eliminating the lifetime subscription now, it seems rather
unlikely that they'll bring it back with a new maching.

--
Hank Gillette

"Our country is being run by people who assume that things will turn out the
way they want. And if someone warns of problems, they shoot the messenger."
-- Paul Krugman

"Bob" wrote in message
. com...
I paid for the O/S and interface, wishlist abilities, season passes etc.
when I bought the boxes. That was part of the OS when I purchased the box.

You do not own the software, you license it under the terms of the owner
(TiVo).

Granted, from time to time there are enhancements to all that but not
everyone uses all that stuff. At 20 bucks a month, that's a little steep
for
program guide info.

You're not just paying for the Guide Info. You are also paying the license
fee to continue using the software that is owned by TiVo.

That's playing with semantics. As to whether you are licensing it or buying
it. Best Buy doesn't run ads for Turbo Tax saying "for license". The
advertise it "for sale". All over their website are buttons for software to
click that say "Buy Now".

Regardless, if you've paid for the equipment, $20 a month is a bit steep.

If someone buys a 3 year old Tivo off ebay, they are not going to want to
pay $20 a month to get programming info. Whether the rest of it is being
licensed to them or not.

"Seth" wrote in message
...
"Bob" wrote in message
. com...
I paid for the O/S and interface, wishlist abilities, season passes etc.
when I bought the boxes. That was part of the OS when I purchased the
box.

You do not own the software, you license it under the terms of the owner
(TiVo).

Granted, from time to time there are enhancements to all that but not
everyone uses all that stuff. At 20 bucks a month, that's a little steep
for
program guide info.

You're not just paying for the Guide Info. You are also paying the
license
fee to continue using the software that is owned by TiVo.