Sky's new on screen mid-programme advertising

Edster wrote:

For the people who wanted to see it. It comes on after the first
advert break, spins around for a bit, then the text changes, it spins
around a bit more, then fades away. Who wants to bet this will be a
feature of all programmes within 3 months?

Ergh. It's already driving me mad that various channels have started
warping the credits and filling half the screen with trailers. This is
far more intrusive.

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Edster wrote:

For the people who wanted to see it. It comes on after the first
advert break, spins around for a bit, then the text changes, it spins
around a bit more, then fades away. Who wants to bet this will be a
feature of all programmes within 3 months?

Ergh. It's already driving me mad that various channels have started
warping the credits and filling half the screen with trailers. This is
far more intrusive.


What annoys me is cutting bits out to leave space for more adverts. This
is often very crudely done in mid sentence.

That and shows at 10pm or 2am still being censored.

Steve.

In uk.media.tv.sky on Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Stephen Henson wrote :

Ergh. It's already driving me mad that various channels have started
warping the credits and filling half the screen with trailers. This is
far more intrusive.

That's not as annoying (to me) as per below.

What annoys me is cutting bits out to leave space for more adverts. This
is often very crudely done in mid sentence.

That and shows at 10pm or 2am still being censored.

IMO shows should be shown uncut at an appropriate timeslot, or not at
all.

Several of the Just Shoot Me episodes currently being shown on C4 have
been totally butchered, with over a minute being cut out!
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:54:09 +0000, HVB wrote:

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:30:08 -0000, Stephen Henson wrote:

What annoys me is cutting bits out to leave space for more adverts. This
is often very crudely done in mid sentence.

I notice that some channels (UKTV Docs and People, for example) are
blurring the line between their programmes and advertising. On quite
a few occasions I've noticed that they just seem to drift between the
two, rather than having a very clear demarcation.

No doubt an attempt to file the ad skippers :-)

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"Paul Hyett" wrote
IMO shows should be shown uncut at an appropriate
timeslot, or not at all.

You won't get any argument from me on that issue.

Several of the Just Shoot Me episodes currently being
shown on C4 have been totally butchered, with over a
minute being cut out!

You obviously didn't watch "Invasion" on C4 last Sunday evening. It
started at 8.06pm and finished at 8.51pm. And that included two
ad-breaks.

To say that they're now taking the **** would be a complete
understatement

Kieran
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Stephen Henson wrote:
What annoys me is cutting bits out to leave space for more adverts.
This is often very crudely done in mid sentence.

Two of my favourite old series have been butchered in this way by ITV3;
both 'Rumpole of the Bailey' and 'Poirot' were beautifully crafted
productions when they were originally made.

Now, the traditional (viz old IBA) concept of commercials being placed
in a 'natural break' (eg a scene change or cliff-hanger etc) has been
completely abandoned by ITV3 and horrid electronic captions are crudely
cut to screen in mid-sentence, devoid of even the most basic cross-fade
with accompanying lagging (or leading) sound to smooth the transition.
Yet the original productions had quite delightful 'End of Part' stings
which respected the 'natural break' concept - why do ITV3 deliberately
desecrate classic programmes which were made to the highest production
standards of the last fifty years ?

Despite my great fondness for Rumpole and Poirot I have now given-up
watching them being butchered on ITV3.

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says...
That's not as annoying (to me) as per below.

What annoys me is cutting bits out to leave space for more adverts. This
is often very crudely done in mid sentence.

That and shows at 10pm or 2am still being censored.

IMO shows should be shown uncut at an appropriate timeslot, or not at
all.

Several of the Just Shoot Me episodes currently being shown on C4 have
been totally butchered, with over a minute being cut out!


M&M has done that inconsistently with "The Sweeney". They used to show
it during the afternoon (and still do with "Minder") but now restrict it
to later times.

Presumably they got hold of pre-censored versions for the initial early
showings and haven't bothered to change that. Some of the cuts are
laughable were words such as "*******" are audio dubbed with milder bits
from earlier while left completely unedited at other times. By modern
standards the uncensored stuff would be considered pretty mild.

A bit hypocritical when something supposedly marketed as a "lads
channel" is instead showing "fluffy bunny" versions of programmes.

Fortunately they haven't done the same with "Auf Wiedersehen" which
would be a bit tricky since Oz's favourite word is "********". Having
said that I can recall a silly attempt by ITV some years back to repeat
the series as two half hour slots in at 7.30pm or so. The whole thing
sounded like the Norman Collier dodgy microphone routine.

Steve.

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says...
Stephen Henson wrote:
What annoys me is cutting bits out to leave space for more adverts.
This is often very crudely done in mid sentence.

Two of my favourite old series have been butchered in this way by ITV3;
both 'Rumpole of the Bailey' and 'Poirot' were beautifully crafted
productions when they were originally made.


Yes Rumpole is one of the programmes I've noticed where this is
particularly badly done.

Now, the traditional (viz old IBA) concept of commercials being placed
in a 'natural break' (eg a scene change or cliff-hanger etc) has been
completely abandoned by ITV3 and horrid electronic captions are crudely
cut to screen in mid-sentence, devoid of even the most basic cross-fade
with accompanying lagging (or leading) sound to smooth the transition.

The transitions would be laugable under other circumstances. On
occasions snippets of the original "end of part one" music remain in
place.

A monkey with a pair of scissors could do better...

Yet the original productions had quite delightful 'End of Part' stings
which respected the 'natural break' concept - why do ITV3 deliberately
desecrate classic programmes which were made to the highest production
standards of the last fifty years ?


I feel the same way. It really does show the contempt ITV now has for
its viewers.

The quality of the video source material is also grotty in some cases.
The static captions have some clearly visible shaking. An early version
of "Taggart" recently shown had what looked like video tracking noise at
one point followed by the effect often seen with crunched tape.

It makes me wonder if the "studios" consist of someones garage with an
old betamax video playing tapes they've picked up from car boot sales
and charity shops.

Steve.

Kieran Seymour wrote:
You obviously didn't watch "Invasion" on C4 last Sunday evening. It
started at 8.06pm and finished at 8.51pm. And that included two
ad-breaks.

Were they very short ad breaks? Don't forget that the average US show is
only around 41 mins long, so showing it in 45 mins including 2 short ad
breaks (ie about 2 mins each) sounds about right!

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Stephen Henson wrote:
What annoys me is cutting bits out to leave space for more adverts.
This is often very crudely done in mid sentence.

Two of my favourite old series have been butchered in this way by
ITV3;
both 'Rumpole of the Bailey' and 'Poirot' were beautifully crafted
productions when they were originally made.

Now, the traditional (viz old IBA) concept of commercials being
placed
in a 'natural break' (eg a scene change or cliff-hanger etc) has
been
completely abandoned by ITV3 and horrid electronic captions are
crudely
cut to screen in mid-sentence, devoid of even the most basic
cross-fade
with accompanying lagging (or leading) sound to smooth the
transition.
Yet the original productions had quite delightful 'End of Part'
stings
which respected the 'natural break' concept - why do ITV3
deliberately
desecrate classic programmes which were made to the highest
production
standards of the last fifty years ?

Despite my great fondness for Rumpole and Poirot I have now given-up
watching them being butchered on ITV3.




Maybe for the simple reason that many of those series were made for
three parts with two ad breaks of two or three minutes, whereas we now
live in an age of mandatory three break minimum and usually of four
minutes each. Ever noticed how often these progs overrun by 2-3
minutes?


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Woody

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