E4 BB Live taken off 22-40

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 02:57:10 -0000, "kim" wrote:

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"David" wrote in message
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Why?
Trouble or a fault?


Second eviction NOT live at 23:00, but pre recorded?

None of it is live. They were able to subtitle Deniis Rodman's conversation
so either the whole show is scripted or it's prerecorded. Probably the
former since everything on TV is fake these days.

[Just catching up]

The 9 pm show is partly live and partly recorded. It shows "highlights"
from the day before, subtitled if necessary.

The almost live streaming on E4 is delayed so that the sound (and
sometines vision) can be cut off for the reasons mentioned by someone
else.

However, the main presentational reason for the delay is to allow the
selection of what action to show. There can be several activities and
conversations going on at the same time. It is only after a period a
several minutes that the editor can make a sensible choice of which to
transmit.

--
Peter Duncanson
UK

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The 9 pm show is partly live and partly recorded. It shows "highlights"
from the day before, subtitled if necessary.

The almost live streaming on E4 is delayed so that the sound (and
sometines vision) can be cut off for the reasons mentioned by someone
else.

However, the main presentational reason for the delay is to allow the
selection of what action to show. There can be several activities and
conversations going on at the same time. It is only after a period a
several minutes that the editor can make a sensible choice of which to
transmit.

--
Peter Duncanson
UK

Fine, Peter, but they should not pass it off as live.

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David

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Apparently that was the cause, according to another group, the second
eviction was at about 10:20, add the 15 min TX delay and adverts we
get to around 22:40...



Transmission was well after 11pm.
We were given the impression of it being LIVE.
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David

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Apparently that was the cause, according to another group, the
second
eviction was at about 10:20, add the 15 min TX delay and adverts
we
get to around 22:40...



Transmission was well after 11pm.
We were given the impression of it being LIVE.

Original info duly credited. :~)

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:57:52 GMT, "David"
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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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The 9 pm show is partly live and partly recorded. It shows "highlights"
from the day before, subtitled if necessary.

The almost live streaming on E4 is delayed so that the sound (and
sometines vision) can be cut off for the reasons mentioned by someone
else.

However, the main presentational reason for the delay is to allow the
selection of what action to show. There can be several activities and
conversations going on at the same time. It is only after a period a
several minutes that the editor can make a sensible choice of which to
transmit.

Fine, Peter, but they should not pass it off as live.

I agree that something like "almost live" would be better.
I'm not sure that there is an deliberate attempt to deceive, after all
if people can cope with the idea of downloading or buying a CD of music
"recorded live" they should be able to manage other variations on
"live".

--
Peter Duncanson
UK

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:57:52 GMT, "David"
wrote:


":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
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Apparently that was the cause, according to another group, the second
eviction was at about 10:20, add the 15 min TX delay and adverts we
get to around 22:40...



Transmission was well after 11pm.
We were given the impression of it being LIVE.

We were.

It was live at the time it was recorded!

I assume that as far as the production staff, Davina, housemates, et al,
were concerned it was live -- there were no opportunities for retakes or
re-editing. It was "recorded live". There was simply a time delay before
transmission.

All very confusing to the innocent viewer.

Some of us would be happy to have a more accurate indication of what
"live" really means for each broadcast, but I'm not at all sure that
everyone would be interested.
--
Peter Duncanson
UK

"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:57:52 GMT, "David"
wrote:


"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
.. .


The 9 pm show is partly live and partly recorded. It shows
"highlights"
from the day before, subtitled if necessary.

The almost live streaming on E4 is delayed so that the sound
(and
sometines vision) can be cut off for the reasons mentioned by
someone
else.

However, the main presentational reason for the delay is to
allow the
selection of what action to show. There can be several
activities and
conversations going on at the same time. It is only after a
period a
several minutes that the editor can make a sensible choice of
which to
transmit.

Fine, Peter, but they should not pass it off as live.

I agree that something like "almost live" would be better.
I'm not sure that there is an deliberate attempt to deceive, after
all
if people can cope with the idea of downloading or buying a CD of
music
"recorded live" they should be able to manage other variations on
"live".


Anyone watching the 'live' in house coverage of the final result last
night and then switching over to the LIVE (well qualified live)
coverage of the result on Ch4 were in for a nasty surprise!...

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:57:52 GMT, "David"
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":::Jerry::::" wrote in message
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Apparently that was the cause, according to another group, the
second
eviction was at about 10:20, add the 15 min TX delay and adverts
we
get to around 22:40...



Transmission was well after 11pm.
We were given the impression of it being LIVE.

We were.

It was live at the time it was recorded!

Well that would make a 30 year old recording of the 'Two Ronnie's a
live programme when next broadcast!

snip

Some of us would be happy to have a more accurate indication of
what
"live" really means for each broadcast, but I'm not at all sure
that
everyone would be interested.

Indeed, more so were the 'live' interview is nothing but a pre
recorded mono-log which has been recorded and presented in such a way
to allow the questions (normally from a journalist to another
journalist) to be asked LIVE. If the programme exc's. were selling a
product they would be up in court on trades description offences!...

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:14:24 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:


Apparently that was the cause, according to another group, the second
eviction was at about 10:20, add the 15 min TX delay and adverts we
get to around 22:40...


Do you work for Virgin Trains?

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:14:24 -0000, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:


Apparently that was the cause, according to another group, the
second
eviction was at about 10:20, add the 15 min TX delay and adverts
we
get to around 22:40...


Do you work for Virgin Trains?


Oops! That's what happens when one person uses the 12 hr clock and
someone else uses the 24 hr clock.... :~(