Is there a way to network with TiVo and second computer?

I've got TiVo connected through a router to a computer
which is connected through a seperate NIC card to another
computer because the router doesn't have gigabit bandwidth.
Would it help if I bought a gigabit switch?
Thanks, I'm really like ignorant in this area.
: -)

AKA gray asphalt wrote:
I've got TiVo connected through a router to a computer
which is connected through a seperate NIC card to another
computer because the router doesn't have gigabit bandwidth.
Would it help if I bought a gigabit switch?
Thanks, I'm really like ignorant in this area.
: -)



You haven't fully described your network topology. Your Tivo is
connected to a router (presumably w/ an integrated 10/100 switch), as is
one computer. Then the computer is connected to another computer via a
second NIC, but is it connected directly (i.e. crossover cable)?

Most people aren't using Gigabit networking to the desktop yet, very
little uses that much bandwidth given that the typical provider
connection is 1.5 Mbps, though moving video around is definitely aided
by gigabit speeds. I'm not sure what a Gigabit switch would gain you,
you aren't going to get anymore speed out of the Tivo, and I presume
you're already getting gigabit speeds between the 2 computers. It would
allow you to free up one of the 2 NICs in your computer, but the switch
will certainly cost much more than the NIC does.

Randy S.

"Randy S." wrote in message ...
AKA gray asphalt wrote:
I've got TiVo connected through a router to a computer
which is connected through a seperate NIC card to another
computer because the router doesn't have gigabit bandwidth.
Would it help if I bought a gigabit switch?
Thanks, I'm really like ignorant in this area.
: -)



You haven't fully described your network topology. Your Tivo is connected to a router (presumably w/ an integrated 10/100
switch), as is one computer. Then the computer is connected to another computer via a second NIC, but is it connected directly
(i.e. crossover cable)?

Most people aren't using Gigabit networking to the desktop yet, very little uses that much bandwidth given that the typical
provider connection is 1.5 Mbps, though moving video around is definitely aided by gigabit speeds. I'm not sure what a Gigabit
switch would gain you, you aren't going to get anymore speed out of the Tivo, and I presume you're already getting gigabit speeds
between the 2 computers. It would allow you to free up one of the 2 NICs in your computer, but the switch will certainly cost
much more than the NIC does.

Randy S.

Yes, the two computers are connected by a cross over cable.
I was thinking that the switch could go between the two computers
and the TiVo thereby giving the second computer direct access to
the TiVo without slowing down transfer between the two computers
which are, as you say, used to transfer video.

And then for the switch to go to the router to provide hardware
firewall. I have no idea what would be assigning IPs to what and if
it makes sense at all.

It's pretty weird to transfer a 1 Gig file in about 6 minutes between
computers and 1.5 hrs. from TiVo to computer.

On 2006-01-03, AKA gray asphalt wrote:

And then for the switch to go to the router to provide hardware
firewall. I have no idea what would be assigning IPs to what and if
it makes sense at all.

I think what you call the router would be assigning IPs to everything -
the switch would just be routing packets.

It's pretty weird to transfer a 1 Gig file in about 6 minutes between
computers and 1.5 hrs. from TiVo to computer.

That's got very little to do with the speed of your network. I transfer
1Gig files from my TiVo to my computer in 7-8 minutes which is on-par with
your numbers. To get the speedup, you have to hack your box so you can
copy the shows unencrypted. It's the encryption step that kills your copy
times. I strongly encourage people who download a lot of their shows to
do this.

--
This is my .sig

On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:33:38 -0800, "AKA gray asphalt"
wrote:

I've got TiVo connected through a router to a computer
which is connected through a seperate NIC card to another
computer because the router doesn't have gigabit bandwidth.
Would it help if I bought a gigabit switch?
Thanks, I'm really like ignorant in this area.
: -)



If you want your computers to communicate with each other at gigabit
speeds, the best way is a gigabit switch between them, with the uplink
of the gigabit switch cabled to any port on the router. The tivo would
of course also be connected to the router or the gigabit switch, but
of course would see no speed benefit from being connected to the
gigabit switch.
This means your computers would both be directly on the network (no
more need for internet connection sharing), as well as the tivo.

Let me know if you need further clarification or have any questions.
-Greg

GTD wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:33:38 -0800, "AKA gray asphalt"
wrote:


I've got TiVo connected through a router to a computer
which is connected through a seperate NIC card to another
computer because the router doesn't have gigabit bandwidth.
Would it help if I bought a gigabit switch?
Thanks, I'm really like ignorant in this area.
: -)




If you want your computers to communicate with each other at gigabit
speeds, the best way is a gigabit switch between them, with the uplink
of the gigabit switch cabled to any port on the router. The tivo would
of course also be connected to the router or the gigabit switch, but
of course would see no speed benefit from being connected to the
gigabit switch.
This means your computers would both be directly on the network (no
more need for internet connection sharing), as well as the tivo.

Let me know if you need further clarification or have any questions.
-Greg


Given AKA's clarifications, I agree with Greg's advice. Note that
Mike's point is also correct, the Tivo's transfer speed is not limited
by the network speed, but by the CPU-limited encryption. Hacked boxes
that don't encrypt are much faster.

RandY S.

"Mike Hunt" wrote in message ...
On 2006-01-03, AKA gray asphalt wrote:

And then for the switch to go to the router to provide hardware
firewall. I have no idea what would be assigning IPs to what and if
it makes sense at all.

I think what you call the router would be assigning IPs to everything -
the switch would just be routing packets.

It's pretty weird to transfer a 1 Gig file in about 6 minutes between
computers and 1.5 hrs. from TiVo to computer.

That's got very little to do with the speed of your network. I transfer
1Gig files from my TiVo to my computer in 7-8 minutes which is on-par with
your numbers. To get the speedup, you have to hack your box so you can
copy the shows unencrypted. It's the encryption step that kills your copy
times. I strongly encourage people who download a lot of their shows to
do this.

--
This is my .sig

Sounds good. It only takes a couple of minutes to unencrypt them,
though. Should I google to se how to transfer unencrypted?

"GTD" wrote in message news
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:33:38 -0800, "AKA gray asphalt"
wrote:

I've got TiVo connected through a router to a computer
which is connected through a seperate NIC card to another
computer because the router doesn't have gigabit bandwidth.
Would it help if I bought a gigabit switch?
Thanks, I'm really like ignorant in this area.
: -)



If you want your computers to communicate with each other at gigabit
speeds, the best way is a gigabit switch between them, with the uplink
of the gigabit switch cabled to any port on the router. The tivo would
of course also be connected to the router or the gigabit switch, but
of course would see no speed benefit from being connected to the
gigabit switch.
This means your computers would both be directly on the network (no
more need for internet connection sharing), as well as the tivo.

Let me know if you need further clarification or have any questions.
-Greg

Thanks. That was my guess but I would not have tried it
without the oversight of someone who sounds like thay know
what they are talking about. Thanks.

"Randy S." wrote in message ...
GTD wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:33:38 -0800, "AKA gray asphalt"
wrote:


I've got TiVo connected through a router to a computer
which is connected through a seperate NIC card to another
computer because the router doesn't have gigabit bandwidth.
Would it help if I bought a gigabit switch?
Thanks, I'm really like ignorant in this area.
: -)




If you want your computers to communicate with each other at gigabit
speeds, the best way is a gigabit switch between them, with the uplink
of the gigabit switch cabled to any port on the router. The tivo would
of course also be connected to the router or the gigabit switch, but
of course would see no speed benefit from being connected to the
gigabit switch. This means your computers would both be directly on the network (no
more need for internet connection sharing), as well as the tivo.

Let me know if you need further clarification or have any questions.
-Greg


Given AKA's clarifications, I agree with Greg's advice. Note that Mike's point is also correct, the Tivo's transfer speed is not
limited by the network speed, but by the CPU-limited encryption. Hacked boxes that don't encrypt are much faster.

RandY S.

Can a Series 2 be hacked to avoid encryption?

Given AKA's clarifications, I agree with Greg's advice. Note that Mike's point is also correct, the Tivo's transfer speed is not
limited by the network speed, but by the CPU-limited encryption. Hacked boxes that don't encrypt are much faster.

RandY S.


Can a Series 2 be hacked to avoid encryption?



Absolutely.

Randy S.