Will the FIFA Word Cup on be on HDTV?

Dave wrote:

Any UK digibox you buy now will not support HD.

Is the current thinking that only those people who subscribe to Sky's
HDTV offering will be able to take part in the BBC HDTV trial? I have
no desire to be a Sky subscriber (too expnseive compared to BBC
offering) but would like to be a member of the BBC HDTV trial. Is this
scenario likely?

Not at all. The BBC (and ITV) have declared their intention never
again to use Sky encryption and given Sky's nature this is totally
understandable. This presumably means that either the BBC HD service
will be FTA and, as such, receivable on any Sky or non-Sky HD receiver
(these do already exist on the Continent) or that they will use some
other form of encryption of a less proprietary nature.

The details aren't released yet so it's "wait and see". I suspect that
the "trial" will be open to anyone with a suitable FTA HD receiver.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

"Dave" wrote in message
ups.com...

Jomtien wrote:
Dave wrote:

I'm thinking of getting a digibox from FreeSatFromSky so I can sign
up for the trial as soon as it is launched.

Any UK digibox you buy now will not support HD.

Is it likely that the only way to get on the BBC HDTV trial will be to
be a Sky HDTV subscriber. I have no desire to subsribe to Sky. The
BBC channel offering (for £11/month) is far better value than Sky's
more expensive offerings IMHO. I wonder if it will be possible to go
on the HDTV trial without being a Sky subcriber?

I guess I need to wait until the BBC release more details on the HDTV
trial. I have not seen any implementation details on Digital Spy.


Dave

hang on, is that £11 a month on top of the Tv licence fee?
That is a tax on watching the BBC channels, what a choice that is! NOT!

Nigel Barker wrote:
On 9 Dec 2005 05:42:45 -0800, "Dave" wrote:

Is it likely that the only way to get on the BBC HDTV trial will be to
be a Sky HDTV subscriber. I have no desire to subsribe to Sky. The
BBC channel offering (for £11/month) is far better value than Sky's
more expensive offerings IMHO. I wonder if it will be possible to go
on the HDTV trial without being a Sky subcriber?

This is the first that I have heard any suggestion that BBC HDTV service would
be only available by subscription. Do you have a pointer to somewhere that the
BBC state they will charge 11 pounds per month?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Hi guys,

Sorry to cause confusion. I do not mean the BBC plan to charge a
subscription. All I was saying that 9in my view) the yearly licence
fee (which I guess works out around £11 per month (i.e. approx
£130/year)) delivers a much better range of programmes than any Sky
subscription. (starting around £16/month I think).

Cheers,

David

On 9 Dec 2005 05:42:45 -0800, "Dave" wrote:

Is it likely that the only way to get on the BBC HDTV trial will be to
be a Sky HDTV subscriber. I have no desire to subsribe to Sky. The
BBC channel offering (for £11/month) is far better value than Sky's
more expensive offerings IMHO. I wonder if it will be possible to go
on the HDTV trial without being a Sky subcriber?

This is the first that I have heard any suggestion that BBC HDTV service would
be only available by subscription. Do you have a pointer to somewhere that the
BBC state they will charge 11 pounds per month?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

On 13 Dec 2005 07:11:13 -0800, "Dave" wrote:


Nigel Barker wrote:
On 9 Dec 2005 05:42:45 -0800, "Dave" wrote:

Is it likely that the only way to get on the BBC HDTV trial will be to
be a Sky HDTV subscriber. I have no desire to subsribe to Sky. The
BBC channel offering (for £11/month) is far better value than Sky's
more expensive offerings IMHO. I wonder if it will be possible to go
on the HDTV trial without being a Sky subcriber?

This is the first that I have heard any suggestion that BBC HDTV service would
be only available by subscription. Do you have a pointer to somewhere that the
BBC state they will charge 11 pounds per month?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Hi guys,

Sorry to cause confusion. I do not mean the BBC plan to charge a
subscription. All I was saying that 9in my view) the yearly licence
fee (which I guess works out around £11 per month (i.e. approx
£130/year)) delivers a much better range of programmes than any Sky
subscription. (starting around £16/month I think).

Cheers,

David

That's a relief!

BTW To watch Sky you need to pay the 11 pounds per month in any case so the real
minimum cost of having Sky is actually 11+15=26 pounds per month:-)

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

olympus wrote:

Any UK digibox you buy now will not support HD.

Is it likely that the only way to get on the BBC HDTV trial will be to
be a Sky HDTV subscriber.

I refer you to my previous message in which I explained why this will
probably not be the case.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

"Dave" wrote in message
ups.com...

Nigel Barker wrote:
On 9 Dec 2005 05:42:45 -0800, "Dave" wrote:

Is it likely that the only way to get on the BBC HDTV trial will be to
be a Sky HDTV subscriber. I have no desire to subsribe to Sky. The
BBC channel offering (for £11/month) is far better value than Sky's
more expensive offerings IMHO. I wonder if it will be possible to go
on the HDTV trial without being a Sky subcriber?

This is the first that I have heard any suggestion that BBC HDTV service
would
be only available by subscription. Do you have a pointer to somewhere that
the
BBC state they will charge 11 pounds per month?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Hi guys,

Sorry to cause confusion. I do not mean the BBC plan to charge a
subscription. All I was saying that 9in my view) the yearly licence
fee (which I guess works out around £11 per month (i.e. approx
£130/year)) delivers a much better range of programmes than any Sky
subscription. (starting around £16/month I think).

Cheers,

David
The yearly TV tax pays for crappy BBC 1, BBC2 and the mostly unwatched
Digital channels, That's what? six channels? for £130 a year? (plus the
witterings on BBC radio.)
Sky gives you hundreds of channels, a much better £ to channel ratio and a
huge range of programming, not the PC rubbish of the BBC, which you have no
choice but to pay for. Let the people who want to watch BBC pay for the BBC,
why should I pay a tax so that Chavs can get their daily dose of Eastenders
and other ****e like that? Let it sink or swim in the real world, then maybe
they won't waste money on things like giving members of an orchestra £3,000
each because they have moved their workplace a couple of miles!, or waste
£24 Million on those stupid between programmes adverts for themselves.

I must strongly disagree with you that the BBC produces anything watchable.

they are saying that whilst they will transmit in HDV, the only place you
will, be able to watch it in HDV is on specially set up screens in London.

"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
olympus wrote:

Any UK digibox you buy now will not support HD.

Is it likely that the only way to get on the BBC HDTV trial will be to
be a Sky HDTV subscriber.

I refer you to my previous message in which I explained why this will
probably not be the case.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

"olympus" wrote in message
...

The yearly TV tax pays for crappy BBC 1, BBC2 and the mostly unwatched
Digital channels, That's what? six channels? for £130 a year? (plus the
witterings on BBC radio.)
Sky gives you hundreds of channels, a much better £ to channel ratio and a
huge range of programming, not the PC rubbish of the BBC, which you have
no choice but to pay for. Let the people who want to watch BBC pay for the
BBC, why should I pay a tax so that Chavs can get their daily dose of
Eastenders and other ****e like that? Let it sink or swim in the real
world, then maybe they won't waste money on things like giving members of
an orchestra £3,000 each because they have moved their workplace a couple
of miles!, or waste £24 Million on those stupid between programmes adverts
for themselves.

I must strongly disagree with you that the BBC produces anything
watchable.

I am not defending the BBC licence fee being levied on the basis of having a
TV rather than what you watch, however I cant agree that with your view that
the Sky subscription somehow gives you access to higher quality programming.

1. the Sky sub doesn't give you the BBC, ITV, C4 or 5.
2. of what remains of the "hundreds of channels", 90% are far worse dross
than the BBC - e.g. the endless game and shopping channels and below-chav
level "entertainment" - surely you must appreciate that.
3. Of the channels that have output more comparable to BBC, then Sky 1/2/3
can hardly be considered to be putting out programming that appeals to
audiences above the level of the BBC. Though Sky does have some good US
sourced material
4. channels like E4 have a lot of low brow programming - and the good stuff
they have is repeated on C4 anyway.
5. The UK* channels are largely filled with BBC programming anyway.
6. The BBC matches the content of the discovery/Nat geo/history/etc type
channels (which also contain a lot of BBC sourced programming anyway)

£ to channel ratio is a totally irrelevant comparison to make with regard to
programming quality which you speak about.

Loz

"olympus" wrote in message
...
they are saying that whilst they will transmit in HDV, the only place you
will, be able to watch it in HDV is on specially set up screens in London.

where did they say that?

They *did* say there would be a trial only in London, and they would provide
the special set top boxes to participants

Loz