Daylight savings change in 2007

I have a way-old series 1 Tivo, and love it.

Is Tivo going to be able to adjust to the new DST that starts in 2007?

Assuming the old box lives that long.....

Mike
O-

What do you mean by "new Daylight Savings Time in 2007"?

agentxfile




wrote:

I have a way-old series 1 Tivo, and love it.

Is Tivo going to be able to adjust to the new DST that starts in 2007?

Assuming the old box lives that long.....

Mike
O-

) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
I have a way-old series 1 Tivo, and love it.

Is Tivo going to be able to adjust to the new DST that starts in 2007?

Yes, because the time gets set via a phone call. You may have a brief
period where the time is wrong, but just force a phone call and you'll
be fine.

--
Jeff Rife |
| http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/Dilbert/SalesToFriends.gif

What do you mean by "new Daylight Savings Time in 2007"?

agentxfile

Bush and Congress messed with the formula for the starting and
ending dates for Daylight Savings Time, starting in 2007.

Gordon L. Burditt

Once upon a time, agentxfile said:
What do you mean by "new Daylight Savings Time in 2007"?

Congress passed a change to the start and end of Daylight Savings Time,
and that change goes into effect in 2007. DST will start a few weeks
earlier on the second Sunday in March and end a week later on the first
Sunday in November.

If TiVo uses the standard Unix time handling functions, it is a simple
update, and one which I'm sure they'll make.
--
Chris Adams
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

Once upon a time, Jeff Rife said:
Yes, because the time gets set via a phone call. You may have a brief
period where the time is wrong, but just force a phone call and you'll
be fine.

I'm pretty sure that TiVo's actually keep the system clock in UTC and
that they use NTP (Network Time Protocol) to set the clock, and NTP
always uses UTC. Time zone calculations are probably done using the
standard Unix time handling functions which use a local config file; if
so, TiVo will need to send out some type of update for that file.
--
Chris Adams
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

(Chris Adams) writes:
Once upon a time, Jeff Rife said:
Yes, because the time gets set via a phone call. You may have a brief
period where the time is wrong, but just force a phone call and you'll
be fine.

I'm pretty sure that TiVo's actually keep the system clock in UTC and
that they use NTP (Network Time Protocol) to set the clock, and NTP
always uses UTC. Time zone calculations are probably done using the
standard Unix time handling functions which use a local config file; if
so, TiVo will need to send out some type of update for that file.


But will they really support Series 1 and other older systems 2 years
down the road and patch up the systems with a software upgrade? Or
will they be forgotton and left by the wayside?

(me remembering plenty of older systems that vendors abandonded for
the last daylight savings time change 20 years ago).

Chris Adams ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
Once upon a time, Jeff Rife said:
Yes, because the time gets set via a phone call. You may have a brief
period where the time is wrong, but just force a phone call and you'll
be fine.

I'm pretty sure that TiVo's actually keep the system clock in UTC and
that they use NTP (Network Time Protocol) to set the clock, and NTP
always uses UTC.

I don't know exactly what standard the oldest software uses...remember the
OP has a series 1. I do know that there are ways that allow you to set
the clock manually, and they don't use UTC as input, so that might work.

Time zone calculations are probably done using the
standard Unix time handling functions which use a local config file; if
so, TiVo will need to send out some type of update for that file.

If this is true, then series 1 units are pretty much hosed without a
special update, since there won't be any functionality updates for them.

--
Jeff Rife | "Isn't that just great? I can't find a real
| relationship...I'm incapable of meaningless
| sex...what does that leave me? Oh, my
| God...I'm gonna have to learn computers."
| -- Jon Cryer, "Partners"

"Jeff Rife" wrote in message
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Chris Adams ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
Once upon a time, Jeff Rife said:
Yes, because the time gets set via a phone call. You may have a brief
period where the time is wrong, but just force a phone call and you'll
be fine.

I'm pretty sure that TiVo's actually keep the system clock in UTC and
that they use NTP (Network Time Protocol) to set the clock, and NTP
always uses UTC.

I don't know exactly what standard the oldest software uses...remember the
OP has a series 1. I do know that there are ways that allow you to set
the clock manually, and they don't use UTC as input, so that might work.

Time zone calculations are probably done using the
standard Unix time handling functions which use a local config file; if
so, TiVo will need to send out some type of update for that file.

If this is true, then series 1 units are pretty much hosed without a
special update, since there won't be any functionality updates for them.

--I agree, I don't think that S1 units will be updated/supported either but
there's always a chance.
I have 3 S1 boxes as well so, yeah, I thought about that last week as well.
If you have a hacked TiVO and can telnet into the box, looks like we will
have to do the "date" command to manually set the time until the unit is
past the new time change period. :-(

bash-2.02# date [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]

Example:
bash-2.02# date 10301221200500

Command works, I just tried it.
It's going to suck for a week or two as after it dials out, I will have to
do the command again.
Looks like things ( network and phone ) will be unplugged for a week or two
eh? ;-)

Scotty

Well, if Tivo doesn't support it then I think they will have alot of
****ed-off people who still has a Series 1 unit(like me), because we
didn't pay the lifetime fee for nothing after all of this time. So, they
better fix it.

agentxfile





Scott Nelson - Wash DC wrote:

"Jeff Rife" wrote in message
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Chris Adams ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:


Once upon a time, Jeff Rife said:


Yes, because the time gets set via a phone call. You may have a brief
period where the time is wrong, but just force a phone call and you'll
be fine.


I'm pretty sure that TiVo's actually keep the system clock in UTC and
that they use NTP (Network Time Protocol) to set the clock, and NTP
always uses UTC.


I don't know exactly what standard the oldest software uses...remember the
OP has a series 1. I do know that there are ways that allow you to set
the clock manually, and they don't use UTC as input, so that might work.



Time zone calculations are probably done using the
standard Unix time handling functions which use a local config file; if
so, TiVo will need to send out some type of update for that file.


If this is true, then series 1 units are pretty much hosed without a
special update, since there won't be any functionality updates for them.



--I agree, I don't think that S1 units will be updated/supported either but
there's always a chance.
I have 3 S1 boxes as well so, yeah, I thought about that last week as well.
If you have a hacked TiVO and can telnet into the box, looks like we will
have to do the "date" command to manually set the time until the unit is
past the new time change period. :-(

bash-2.02# date [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]

Example:
bash-2.02# date 10301221200500

Command works, I just tried it.
It's going to suck for a week or two as after it dials out, I will have to
do the command again.
Looks like things ( network and phone ) will be unplugged for a week or two
eh? ;-)

Scotty