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Old September 17th 05, 06:10 AM
The Wizard
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Well,
Certainly seems that way from this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/0...eut/index.html

Who the hell is going to buy a machine that spies on you and the maufacturer
can kill in for playing a disc not meant for your region??

It sounds more like "Let's fill our pockets and f*ck the consumer"

Or to us "Let's kill off DVD totally"


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Old September 17th 05, 11:32 AM
Clem Dye
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The Wizard wrote:
Well,
Certainly seems that way from this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/0...eut/index.html

Who the hell is going to buy a machine that spies on you and the maufacturer
can kill in for playing a disc not meant for your region??

It sounds more like "Let's fill our pockets and f*ck the consumer"

Or to us "Let's kill off DVD totally"


Well, WRT the region coding, that's what we're supposed to have now with
CSS isn't it? The fact that the security was weak combined with
manufacturers wanting one player for all markets lead to compromises in
the design.

Going forward, it's clear that manufactueres won't make the same mistake
twice.

As for internet-connected devices, I think that that's a non-starter. If
it's a requirement that players have to be connected to the 'Net to get
authorisation to play something, then the whole platform is dead in the
water. I certainly won't consider anything like that. Period.

It's interesting that the CNN article had plenty of commentaters stating
that DVD was poor, low bit-rate, capacity and so forth, yet only a few
years ago it was the best thing since sliced bread.

The next generation players, HDTV etc. is a minefield. I'm steering well
clear until its all bedded down and the wrinkles ironed-out.


Clem

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Old September 17th 05, 11:53 AM
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"Clem Dye" wrote in message
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The Wizard wrote:
Well,
Certainly seems that way from this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/0...eut/index.html

Who the hell is going to buy a machine that spies on you and the
maufacturer can kill in for playing a disc not meant for your region??

It sounds more like "Let's fill our pockets and f*ck the consumer"

Or to us "Let's kill off DVD totally"


Well, WRT the region coding, that's what we're supposed to have now with
CSS isn't it? The fact that the security was weak combined with
manufacturers wanting one player for all markets lead to compromises in
the design.

Going forward, it's clear that manufactueres won't make the same mistake
twice.

As for internet-connected devices, I think that that's a non-starter. If
it's a requirement that players have to be connected to the 'Net to get
authorisation to play something, then the whole platform is dead in the
water. I certainly won't consider anything like that. Period.

It's interesting that the CNN article had plenty of commentaters stating
that DVD was poor, low bit-rate, capacity and so forth, yet only a few
years ago it was the best thing since sliced bread.

The next generation players, HDTV etc. is a minefield. I'm steering well
clear until its all bedded down and the wrinkles ironed-out.


Clem



What a pile of poo! A sort of Sky Digital type DRM for DVD.

Blue Ray will be dead *until* someone cracks it.



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Old September 17th 05, 03:38 PM
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"The Wizard" wrote in message
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Well,
Certainly seems that way from this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/0...eut/index.html

Who the hell is going to buy a machine that spies on you and the

maufacturer
can kill in for playing a disc not meant for your region??

It sounds more like "Let's fill our pockets and f*ck the consumer"

Or to us "Let's kill off DVD totally"


The big manufacturers will go for unhackable systems until cheap Chinese
hackable machines flood the market and then magically they too will start to
release hackable machines (just like they did with DVD)


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Old September 18th 05, 05:05 PM
Charlie Pearce
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:32:38 GMT, Clem Dye wrote:

As for internet-connected devices, I think that that's a non-starter. If
it's a requirement that players have to be connected to the 'Net to get
authorisation to play something, then the whole platform is dead in the
water. I certainly won't consider anything like that. Period.


Agreed - just look at how well DIVX went down with US consumers :-)

Charlie

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Old September 19th 05, 10:32 PM
Bantam
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The Wizard wrote:
Well,
Certainly seems that way from this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/0...eut/index.html

Who the hell is going to buy a machine that spies on you and the maufacturer
can kill in for playing a disc not meant for your region??

It sounds more like "Let's fill our pockets and f*ck the consumer"

Or to us "Let's kill off DVD totally"


They might have a problem with that. If they nobble your machine that
you've paid for, is it not criminal damage?

Also, maybe the movie studios should go and have a walk down Broadway in
New York City on a saturday and sunday afternoon and see how many
nigerian chaps with suitcases come up to them and offer them 'the latest
movies on DVD'? I know I was hassled virtually twice every block which
really surprised me.

I, for one, am waiting until the formats kill each other off. For the
meantime I'll use Sky HD for a HD fix!
 




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