stupid station logos burnin on HD broadcast?

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| In article , "Dave C."
| wrote:
|
| Next step . . . do away with programming completely and run ADS for
| programming 24 hours a day, interspersed with commercials of course.
|
| You forgot the most profitable step: charge more for receiving it.

You'd think with our new found ability to label all the channels ourselves with
these new-fangled TV sets, that after a while, the networks could take their
station ID bugs off the air! And I am really perturbed by these pop-up ads when
the movie comes back on after 5 minutes of commercials. I just got done watching
5 minutes of commercials, now you want to put them on top of the movie too?
Isn't this against the law? Subliminal advertising within a movie? If McDonald's
started advertising when the movie came back on, who do I sue because I gained
weight?!? I want "food advertising blocking" available on my TV. Yes, rate the
commercials so I can have my TV go BLUE (or screensaver mode with my very own
favorite jpegs) whenever there is a food commercial on the channel I am
watching. Better yet, have my TV go BLUE throughout the 5 minute commercial
break, and come back on when the show starts again! There could be two timers
showing how long the commercial break has been, and how much longer it is
expected to last, while I stare at the blue screen. But the colon on the timer
might burn-into the screen too. Hmm. What about Shopping Network shows with
their timers? Do they burn-in on new TV's?

I do believe the station bugs can be a source of TV burn in, and it would
behoove us (or the TV manufacturers) to start a class-action suit against those
damn bugs before they do some real damage to TV sets everywhere. The new TV sets
have specific warnings about burn-in susceptibility, and I believe the station
bugs violate the warranty of the TV sets being sold nowadays.

thank you.....now...don't you feel just a little ****ed that it happened due
to some stupid jerk at the station?

Mango
"Morbius" wrote in message
.. .
I posted this once before in relation to a similar thread, but it seems
appropriate to post again here...

My stepfather has a 5 year-old Pioneer Elite 510, a fairly expensive
set, which he has also had professionally calibrated. I went over to
his house about 6 months ago and pulled off the glare screen to clean it
for him. After putting it back on, we all saw something in the lower
1/4 of the screen that I at first thought was some kind of smudge or
dirt I missed. After taking the glare screen off again to clean it, it
became evident that it was burn-in on the screen itself, bad enough to
be evident when the set is completely off. Once we new that and looked
close enough, it was fairly easy to see that it was the local news
station's "banner" that is often across the bottom of the screen,
containing their logo, name, and occasional headlines or weather info.

Now, this is a fairly expensive set, and as it has been calibrated, and
I've seen the picture myself, I'm 100% confident that the contrast or
black level settings are not overly high. And certainly my stepfather
doesn't watch this one news station 24 hours a day. Yet, this "banner"
is now permanently etched into his screen.

So anyone thinking that it's not possible, or even probable, for station
logos to cause screen burn-in are kidding themselves.


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Steve K. wrote:
Will this burn in on my HD TV set?
I'm not as worried about burn in as I am annoyed at stations like FOX
KTTV-DT here in LA where they have TWO HUGE station ID's on all the time
and they are well within the main part of the frame (not at the edge).
Absolutely ridiculous!

Isn't the standard FOX bug the one with the rotating b/w FOX and the US flag?
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Badger wrotenews:WaKpc.49104$jU.2882442
@twister.southeast.rr.com:

Rick wrote:
Most of these logos are semi-transparent, which should
prevent any burn-in (unless by some miracle, the background
behind the logo stays black or another single color for many,
many hours at one time).

The "logos" that drive me nuts are the ones that completely
replace the lower portion of the screen (e.g. SpikeTV,
when they first came on the air).

Rick



If you can see the logos, they WILL burn in both CRT and plasma
technology. They may not do it as quickly as solid logos, but they will
eventually.
I don't understand why they don't move the damn things around instead of
leaving them in one spot.
Clay


I don't understand why they all feel in the last few years they all have to
jump on the same bandwagon and **** off the majority of their viewers?

People ware watching less and less tv every year, and yet these tv people
come up with more and more annoying habits to make sure we watch less and
less tv.

The swooshing "news alert" noises, the digital mouse click noises on NGO
and A&E made me stop watching them.
Scrawl, and the worst, is inserting tiny promo windows of a future show, in
the middle of the damn show you're watching!
I get so mad I've almost thrown my remote at the screen.

Then I say to myself "Self, do I really need this aggrevation? Self?
Wouldn't I be better off building a book case or reading a book or cleaning
my car?". And I usually turn it off.

I stopped watching "Lost" the first episode because of that. A couple of
little annoyances and they lost a customer-eyeball for life.

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---Mapanari---

This discussion has been addressed many times with absolutely no resolution
other than not watching any programmes which include the banners, logos,
etc. To Absolutely assure that you do not incur the "Burn In". However, in
the real world, the broadcasters, media producers, etc apply their
technologies to include the logos in the products they produce. We just have
to live with it and modify our viewing habits to miminize damage to our
products.
"Mapanari" wrote in message
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"Dave C." :


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In article , "Dave C."
wrote:

Next step . . . do away with programming completely and run ADS for
programming 24 hours a day, interspersed with commercials of course.

You forgot the most profitable step: charge more for receiving it.

I didn't forget it, it's already been done, multiple times. I was just
suggesting a new way for the networks to make money, something they
haven't
tried YET. -Dave




I'm still waiting with baited breath for the "Fox Execution Live" channel.

Executions live from around the world! Today, 42 Chinese are shot in the
head while rich white American wait patiently in nearby hospitals for
their
already picked out organs to be transplanted! See beating hearts and
quivering livers ripped out of still shivering bodies!

Tomorrow, at 10pm EST, 9 am Congo time, watch 400 Congolese ex Hutu
soldiers rape and disembowel UN refugee camp women and children! Brought
to your by Proctor and Gamble, the man's manly soap maker of fine soaps
for
effeminet men!



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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 06:45:47 -0000, Mapanari
wrote:

Badger wrotenews:WaKpc.49104$jU.2882442
:

Rick wrote:
Most of these logos are semi-transparent, which should
prevent any burn-in (unless by some miracle, the background
behind the logo stays black or another single color for many,
many hours at one time).

The "logos" that drive me nuts are the ones that completely
replace the lower portion of the screen (e.g. SpikeTV,
when they first came on the air).

Rick



If you can see the logos, they WILL burn in both CRT and plasma
technology. They may not do it as quickly as solid logos, but they will
eventually.
I don't understand why they don't move the damn things around instead of
leaving them in one spot.
Clay


I don't understand why they all feel in the last few years they all have to
jump on the same bandwagon and **** off the majority of their viewers?

People ware watching less and less tv every year, and yet these tv people
come up with more and more annoying habits to make sure we watch less and
less tv.

The swooshing "news alert" noises, the digital mouse click noises on NGO
and A&E made me stop watching them.
Scrawl, and the worst, is inserting tiny promo windows of a future show, in
the middle of the damn show you're watching!
I get so mad I've almost thrown my remote at the screen.

Then I say to myself "Self, do I really need this aggrevation? Self?
Wouldn't I be better off building a book case or reading a book or cleaning
my car?". And I usually turn it off.

I stopped watching "Lost" the first episode because of that. A couple of
little annoyances and they lost a customer-eyeball for life.


I was watching the news on the plane crash in Toronto the other day
and the bottom third of the screen was populated with logos, graphics
and news crawls so badly that you couldn't see the plane at all.
Are they out of their minds?
Thumper

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 06:51:43 -0000, Mapanari
wrote:

"Dave C." :

What about the logos that go ANIMATED all over the frickin' screen in
the
middle of the best part of your favorite shows? Yeah, like I really
want
to
watch my show with dancing dinosaurs IN THE FOREGROUND. -Dave


Yes, and apparently visual distraction isn't enough for these folks -
some networks have added sound to make sure you don't miss their
animations.

Next step . . . do away with programming completely and run ADS for
programming 24 hours a day, interspersed with commercials of course.
-Dave




The sad thing is, that they will still have a significat market share to
stay in business.
I mean, how does HSN and the other 20 all night shopping networks stay in
business?
Lots and lots of shoppers.
Thumper
Some day, the internet broad pipes will be big enough to put free
programing on the net, and broadcast TV and their insane desire to destroy
their own format will be history.

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 06:52:40 -0000, Mapanari
wrote:

wrotenews:bearclaw-2CBFC1.06134717052004
:

In article , "Dave C."
wrote:

Next step . . . do away with programming completely and run ADS for
programming 24 hours a day, interspersed with commercials of course.

You forgot the most profitable step: charge more for receiving it.



Or do what the liberals did in many states with insurance car laws...make
laws mandating that you have to pay for it, wether you need it or want it or
not.
Don't be ridiculous.
Thumper

Your post has nothing to do with HDTV and is offensive.
Go away.

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| or get any scholarships becuase they were white and that colleges
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|
| Who would have ever thought that illegal aliens would be protesting
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|
| I could go on, but the horrors of liberalism is well known and you
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:08:37 +0000, Mapanari wrote:

Thumper
om:


I was watching the news on the plane crash in Toronto the other day
and the bottom third of the screen was populated with logos, graphics
and news crawls so badly that you couldn't see the plane at all.
Are they out of their minds?
Thumper


Almost as bad as watching a football game and the camera is on some old
faggot pretty boy head yakking and yakking about statistics, and in the
background the crowd is screaming and yelling and the sound is deafening, and
you know a fanstastic catch was made or a touchdown, but hey! talking heads
and commercials are what we tune in for, ain't it?

Or, don't you just love the nervous cameras who cut away from crowds or
cheerleaders or signs like a camera-toting zebra trying to get a drink at a
small waterhole full of hot, tired and starving crocodiles, with their
cameras at the slightest hint of some un pc thing happening?

And yet people continue to pay for that BS. I laugh at the people spending
thousands of dollars for a plasma or LCD TV to watch that crap. We ought
to boycott TV to send the broadcasters a message. sending complaints to
the FCC, FTC or the NAB isn't going to change anything.