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  #11  
Old July 3rd 05, 05:52 PM
The Wizard
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"SPC" wrote in message
...
| With a DVD recorder I could have just set off recording, as I would have
to
| change the channel on Sky myself. Therefore, the whole thing would be
| recorded as one huge show.

Exactly as I did, I got the full show on DVD but F*ck all on Sky+ apart from
one failed recording and a clashed recording!

| The BBC did keep changing the times in the EPG, but surely a system that
is
| claimed to be as fantastic as Sky+ should be able to cope with a few
| changes. And the fact it did record it then decided to report it as failed
| is rediculous.

Quite.

| I started it recording on BBC2 as Wimbledon when it had overrun. When I
went
| to stop it recording as the show had swapped to BBC1 it wouldn't let me.

Sounds similar to waht happened to me, Pressing Record just did'nt do
anything either!

| I'm not impressed at all. Just glad we're not paying £10 a month for this
so
| called service.

You can vouch most of the time with SKY OWNED and channels that have to pay
SKY for encryption but not for ones that don't want to pay Sky...Simple
logic really to get viewers complaining to the channel rather than the
dumbwits at Sky carrying out the screw-ups!

At least even with an old VCR when your press record,It does what it says on
the tin,Sky+ refused to do yesterday :-/

| "Tumbleweed" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "SPC" wrote in message
| ...
| Just a quick note to say that our ****ty Sky+ box decided to stop
| recording Live 8 when the channels changed around six, and then has
| decided the evening BBC 1 show has 'failed' for an unknown reason.
| However, its still taking the space up on the disc, so now the Live 8
US
| show on BBC 1 will have the end cut off because theres not enough room
on
| the disc.
|
| Sky have a lot to answer for. No update, no reliability. No wonder
people
| are choosing DVD recorders over Sky+.
|
| perhaps you could explain how a dvd recorder would be able to divine
that
| the bbc werent following their own published schedule?
|
| --
| Tumbleweed
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  #12  
Old July 3rd 05, 05:53 PM
The Wizard
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"SPC" wrote in message
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| I've just gone to watch the Live 8 US show that started at midnight. The
box
| decided it clashed. There was nothing else programmed to watch or record,
| and the box was on BBC 1.
|
| Have Sky sabotaged Live 8 recordings because they didn't get to air it?

It's looking VERY likely!

| "SPC" wrote in message
| ...
| With a DVD recorder I could have just set off recording, as I would have
| to change the channel on Sky myself. Therefore, the whole thing would be
| recorded as one huge show.
|
| The BBC did keep changing the times in the EPG, but surely a system that
| is claimed to be as fantastic as Sky+ should be able to cope with a few
| changes. And the fact it did record it then decided to report it as
failed
| is rediculous.
|
| I started it recording on BBC2 as Wimbledon when it had overrun. When I
| went to stop it recording as the show had swapped to BBC1 it wouldn't
let
| me.
|
| I'm not impressed at all. Just glad we're not paying £10 a month for
this
| so called service.
|
| Bobby
|
|
| "Tumbleweed" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "SPC" wrote in message
| ...
| Just a quick note to say that our ****ty Sky+ box decided to stop
| recording Live 8 when the channels changed around six, and then has
| decided the evening BBC 1 show has 'failed' for an unknown reason.
| However, its still taking the space up on the disc, so now the Live 8
US
| show on BBC 1 will have the end cut off because theres not enough room
| on the disc.
|
| Sky have a lot to answer for. No update, no reliability. No wonder
| people are choosing DVD recorders over Sky+.
|
| perhaps you could explain how a dvd recorder would be able to divine
that
| the bbc werent following their own published schedule?
|
| --
| Tumbleweed
|
| email replies not necessary but to contact use;
| tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
|
|
|
|
|


  #13  
Old July 3rd 05, 06:30 PM
Jason Greenwood
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I had the same problem, the sky box failed to turn over and there was only
live 8 recording damn system. So other than reboot the box and press record
again. Just a nightmare.


"The Wizard" wrote in message
...

"SPC" wrote in message
...
| With a DVD recorder I could have just set off recording, as I would have
to
| change the channel on Sky myself. Therefore, the whole thing would be
| recorded as one huge show.

Exactly as I did, I got the full show on DVD but F*ck all on Sky+ apart

from
one failed recording and a clashed recording!

| The BBC did keep changing the times in the EPG, but surely a system that
is
| claimed to be as fantastic as Sky+ should be able to cope with a few
| changes. And the fact it did record it then decided to report it as

failed
| is rediculous.

Quite.

| I started it recording on BBC2 as Wimbledon when it had overrun. When I
went
| to stop it recording as the show had swapped to BBC1 it wouldn't let me.

Sounds similar to waht happened to me, Pressing Record just did'nt do
anything either!

| I'm not impressed at all. Just glad we're not paying £10 a month for

this
so
| called service.

You can vouch most of the time with SKY OWNED and channels that have to

pay
SKY for encryption but not for ones that don't want to pay Sky...Simple
logic really to get viewers complaining to the channel rather than the
dumbwits at Sky carrying out the screw-ups!

At least even with an old VCR when your press record,It does what it says

on
the tin,Sky+ refused to do yesterday :-/

| "Tumbleweed" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "SPC" wrote in message
| ...
| Just a quick note to say that our ****ty Sky+ box decided to stop
| recording Live 8 when the channels changed around six, and then has
| decided the evening BBC 1 show has 'failed' for an unknown reason.
| However, its still taking the space up on the disc, so now the Live 8
US
| show on BBC 1 will have the end cut off because theres not enough

room
on
| the disc.
|
| Sky have a lot to answer for. No update, no reliability. No wonder
people
| are choosing DVD recorders over Sky+.
|
| perhaps you could explain how a dvd recorder would be able to divine
that
| the bbc werent following their own published schedule?
|
| --
| Tumbleweed
|
| email replies not necessary but to contact use;
| tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
|
|
|




  #14  
Old July 3rd 05, 06:39 PM
Ian F.
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"Andy Hawkins" wrote in message
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For a programme like this that was bound to overrun, I think I'd have used
a
manual record...


My Sky+ box recorded both UK and US concerts perfectly.

Ian
(just watching Maroon 5)


  #15  
Old July 4th 05, 07:22 AM
rob.
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You can vouch most of the time with SKY OWNED and channels that have
to pay SKY for encryption but not for ones that don't want to pay
Sky...Simple logic really to get viewers complaining to the channel
rather than the dumbwits at Sky carrying out the screw-ups!


There is stil the question as to why the BBC likes to switch coverage back
and forth from one channel to the other. I doubt there are many people
around who cannot get BBC2 these days. I remember a time when we had a TV
that couldn't get it but that was about 30 years ago. They tended to do
that in Wimbledong coverage generally. Start covering a match on 1 and then
switch it to 2. This was even before they started marketing BBCi - "Press
the red button and you can choose which match you want to watch all the way
through without changing channels"*


*Assuming that BBCi is able to load the required page before the match is
over!


  #16  
Old July 4th 05, 01:59 PM
Kevin
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On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:39:11 +0100, "Ian F."
wrote:

My Sky+ box recorded both UK and US concerts perfectly.


Mine recorded the UK concert (on both channels) without any problem,
even with the overrun.

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  #17  
Old July 5th 05, 06:22 PM
Dale Richards
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SPC wrote:

Have Sky sabotaged Live 8 recordings because they didn't get to air it?


No, the BBC made a complete mess of the EPG. I know you want to blame
Sky for this, but they really don't have any control over what the BBC
does with its EPG data. Apparently, some BBC regions were more badly
affected than others. I know that on BBC One Wales, for example, the EPG
info even said "no listings available" for about 20 minutes. What hope
does a PVR have if the channel operators themselves don't even know
what's on? A manual recording could have solved this problem, but the
BBC drifted so far away from their published schedule that even this
would have failed, so even bog-standard VCRs and DVD recorders would
have failed.

Of course, why the BBC would even want to switch coverage between
channels is completely beyond my comprehension. If I really wanted to
watch Wimbledon, I could have switched to it with the press of a single
button. What's the point of making people change channels in order to
keep watching what's already on? :/

The BBC has become a complete shambles, as I found out when I tuned in
to watch their Glastonbury "coverage"...
  #18  
Old July 5th 05, 06:28 PM
Dale Richards
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The Wizard wrote:

ITV still pays for uplinking and epcryption so I trust Sky to get F1 correct
most weeks and it does,Any Channel not paying Sky for encryption strangely
fails lot of the time :-(


I doubt Sky would do that on purpose, even if they could, because there
are a lot of idiots who would blame it on Sky anyway. Besides, I'd
always assumed that ITV pay NDS for the encryption, not Sky.

I'm hoping to get a Freeview version of Sky+ soon anyway for more
trustworthy recordings.


Good luck with that.
  #19  
Old July 5th 05, 06:48 PM
Ian
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Zero Tolerance wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:14:40 GMT, "The Wizard"
wrote:


The message behind the story is this would'nt happen with a NON-SKY
controlled box.



A non-Sky box would have barfed in exactly the same way when presented
with the same incorrect data being transmitted by the BBC.


Not really, because they don't usually record based on an EPG.


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  #20  
Old July 5th 05, 11:14 PM
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"Ian" wrote in message
...
Zero Tolerance wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:14:40 GMT, "The Wizard"
wrote:


The message behind the story is this would'nt happen with a NON-SKY
controlled box.



A non-Sky box would have barfed in exactly the same way when presented
with the same incorrect data being transmitted by the BBC.


Not really, because they don't usually record based on an EPG.



If people make manual recordings based on what they read in the EPG it will
be just as wrong.
That would apply to any recording you make for the future, and maybe even
ones that are on now if you dont bother to check.

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