Election Results, BBC vs. ITV

Its all a big con, the elections are rigged, your vote is not counted
the results are made up.


"David" wrote in message
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I watched the results programme last night for about 1 and a half hours.
I switched between BBC1 and ITV1, what I noticed was the ITV had more
results in than the BBC, EG BBC1 4 results and ITV1 8 results.
Were the BBC slower at getting results than ITV?
Or were the ITV in error?

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Mark Carver wrote:
The BBC English regional studios can only take the incoming *analogue*
(14:9 letterbox or 4:3) distribution feed from London.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I'm not sure what GPI and ARC are.

Personally, I didn't have a problem with the ticker, but the black
side bars caused my TV to adjust to get parallel side edges again.

MJ Ray wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:

The BBC English regional studios can only take the incoming *analogue*
(14:9 letterbox or 4:3) distribution feed from London.


Thanks for the detailed explanation. I'm not sure what GPI and ARC are.

GPI: General Purpose Interface, flashy name for contact closure, or
relay switch.

ARC: Aspect Ratio Converter. Takes a 16:9 anamorphic input and converts
to either a 14:9 or 16:9 letterbox (or 4:3 crop). Or in my example takes
the 4:3/14:9 letterbox input and 'expands' it up to a 16:9 anamorphic
image (albeit with black side bars of course)


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"Tim Mitchell" wrote in message
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In article , Stan The Man
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Anyone else get confused by the BBC's virtual graphics? I could see
that John Snow's underfoot graphics were superimposed but I got
confused when they showed a shot of the BBC building with big neon
results signs on the front. Was that real or not? Should we be told?

Not real, it's all done with mirrors you know

And I think it was Peter Snow.

I find Peter Snow manic, irritating and unwatchable. So I go to ITV

rusty

In ,
Tony Walton pop his head above the parapit and spewed
forth:
|| David wrote:
||| I watched the results programme last night for about 1 and a half hours.
||| I switched between BBC1 and ITV1, what I noticed was the ITV had more
||| results in than the BBC, EG BBC1 4 results and ITV1 8 results.
||| Were the BBC slower at getting results than ITV?
||| Or were the ITV in error?
|||
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|| According to a thread in uk.media.tv.misc (sorry, I can't recall the
|| thread title) ITV have a habit of "pre-declaring" seats where they
|| consider the result to be a forgone conclusion.
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|| Tony Walton

Which is exactly what screwd up the American elections 4 years aog lol The
TV stations kept declaring wining seats before they were even voted for lol
silly sods.




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In ,
Tony Walton pop his head above the parapit and
spewed
forth:
snip
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|| According to a thread in uk.media.tv.misc (sorry, I can't recall
the
|| thread title) ITV have a habit of "pre-declaring" seats where
they
|| consider the result to be a forgone conclusion.

Which is exactly what screwd up the American elections 4 years aog
lol The
TV stations kept declaring wining seats before they were even voted
for lol
silly sods.


Yes, but the UK is not spread across 5 times zones so we don't have
that sort of problem, come 22:00 hrs it's all over bar the political
pundit....

On Fri, 06 May 2005 16:39:37 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Have a look at this page about half way down:-

http://www.pembers.freeserve.co.uk/T...l#Aspect-Ratio

Wow - that has to be my website of the week...

Charlie

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Did anyone else notice that the sound went quieter and black
bars appeared at the edge of the widescreen image during local
results captions on BBC1?

The BBC English regional studios can only take the incoming *analogue*
(14:9 letterbox or 4:3) distribution feed from London.

This can be a problem during what the Beeb call 'soft opting'.
Soft opting is the period when the network feed is fed through the
local vision and audio mixers, normally a minute of so before they
actually opt out. On analogue this is not really noticeable, but
it is on DTT/D-Sat. Therefore normally the DVB output
is only switched via the local mixer during *actual* local material
(hard opt). GPIs from the vision mixer control when the DVB outputs cut
to and from local sources. At other times the BBC 1 signal seen on DVB
is the nationally distributed *digital* network feed.

Because the local studio were superimposing their own captions over the
network feed, this meant they had to 'hard opt' for the period, and
pretend that the network input was really a local source, hence the black
side bars, what you were seeing was the 14:9 analogue network picture
being ARC'd up to 16:9 for transmission on D-Sat and DTT.


It's probably more a uk.tech.broadcast question, as I know this was brought
up before during Children in Need, but why when regions such as the new BBC
Leeds are able to operate entirely digital is this the case? IS this down to
the feed daisychaining region to region?

Mark Carver said the following on 2005-05-06 16:39:

Because the local studio were superimposing their own captions over the
network feed, this meant they had to 'hard opt' for the period, and
pretend that the network input was really a local source, hence the
black side bars, what you were seeing was the 14:9 analogue network
picture being ARC'd up to 16:9 for transmission on D-Sat and DTT.

Would that explain why the regular captions were as sharp and clear as
usual, but the Midlands ones were a washed out mush?

Kev

On Fri, 06 May 2005 10:39:22 GMT, "David"
wrote:

I watched the results programme last night for about 1 and a half hours.
I switched between BBC1 and ITV1, what I noticed was the ITV had more
results in than the BBC, EG BBC1 4 results and ITV1 8 results.
Were the BBC slower at getting results than ITV?
Or were the ITV in error?

I have read somewhere today, The Times IIRC, that ITV were getting the
result from the returning officer / staff before it was declared.

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