Satellite speakers connected to sub or receiver?

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400, (Roger)
wrote:

I have JBL satellite speakers currently connected to my Sony STR-DE945
They are rated at 120 watts. i have a 250 watt JBL sub.ran by a high end
Monster sub cable (25ft.) I have had this setup for about 2 yrs . While
I was at a high end Audio Video store (Ovation) I was told I would get
better reception from my satellites IF I connected them to my sub
instead of my receiver and I would notice considerable difference
especially while listening to CD's or for that matter anything! ........
Any thoughts on the matter or should I leave well enough alone? MY
fear is the sub amp.might BLOW the sats.

1. The sub amp won't blow the sats because the sub amp won't be
driving them.
2. If you are using the RCA connection (Monster or not) to the sub,
you cannot connect the sats to the sub without buying another
amplifier.
3. The only way to connect the sats to the sub would be to use speaker
cables to the sub so that the Sony's amps can drive the sats while the
sub picks off the LF.
4. The advantage of (3) is that the sub probably has a crossover
network which will remove the extreme LF from the the sats and, in
fact, will permit them to handle even greater signal input than
before.
5. Of course, the JBL has to have speaker-level inputs and outputs for
this to work. You do not specify the model nor am I familiar with JBL
subs but your owner's manual should detail this.

Kal

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:21:57 -0500, steve wrote:



Kalman Rubinson wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400, (Roger)
wrote:

I have JBL satellite speakers currently connected to my Sony STR-DE945
They are rated at 120 watts. i have a 250 watt JBL sub.ran by a high end
Monster sub cable (25ft.) I have had this setup for about 2 yrs . While
I was at a high end Audio Video store (Ovation) I was told I would get
better reception from my satellites IF I connected them to my sub
instead of my receiver and I would notice considerable difference
especially while listening to CD's or for that matter anything! ........
Any thoughts on the matter or should I leave well enough alone? MY
fear is the sub amp.might BLOW the sats.

1. The sub amp won't blow the sats because the sub amp won't be
driving them.
2. If you are using the RCA connection (Monster or not) to the sub,
you cannot connect the sats to the sub without buying another
amplifier.
3. The only way to connect the sats to the sub would be to use speaker
cables to the sub so that the Sony's amps can drive the sats while the
sub picks off the LF.
4. The advantage of (3) is that the sub probably has a crossover
network which will remove the extreme LF from the the sats and, in
fact, will permit them to handle even greater signal input than
before.
5. Of course, the JBL has to have speaker-level inputs and outputs for
this to work. You do not specify the model nor am I familiar with JBL
subs but your owner's manual should detail this.


If he does option 3, then the only bass the sub will get is from the
sat's. I'd stay away from that salesman if I were him. That is not the
way to setup HT.

You are right. I had assumed that the receiver/system was only
2channel (stereo). He would be best to leave things as they are.

Kal

Kalman Rubinson wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400, (Roger)
wrote:

I have JBL satellite speakers currently connected to my Sony STR-DE945
They are rated at 120 watts. i have a 250 watt JBL sub.ran by a high end
Monster sub cable (25ft.) I have had this setup for about 2 yrs . While
I was at a high end Audio Video store (Ovation) I was told I would get
better reception from my satellites IF I connected them to my sub
instead of my receiver and I would notice considerable difference
especially while listening to CD's or for that matter anything! ........
Any thoughts on the matter or should I leave well enough alone? MY
fear is the sub amp.might BLOW the sats.

1. The sub amp won't blow the sats because the sub amp won't be
driving them.
2. If you are using the RCA connection (Monster or not) to the sub,
you cannot connect the sats to the sub without buying another
amplifier.
3. The only way to connect the sats to the sub would be to use speaker
cables to the sub so that the Sony's amps can drive the sats while the
sub picks off the LF.
4. The advantage of (3) is that the sub probably has a crossover
network which will remove the extreme LF from the the sats and, in
fact, will permit them to handle even greater signal input than
before.
5. Of course, the JBL has to have speaker-level inputs and outputs for
this to work. You do not specify the model nor am I familiar with JBL
subs but your owner's manual should detail this.


If he does option 3, then the only bass the sub will get is from the
sat's. I'd stay away from that salesman if I were him. That is not the
way to setup HT.

"steve" wrote in message
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Kalman Rubinson wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400, (Roger)
wrote:

I have JBL satellite speakers currently connected to my Sony STR-DE945
They are rated at 120 watts. i have a 250 watt JBL sub.ran by a high end
Monster sub cable (25ft.) I have had this setup for about 2 yrs . While
I was at a high end Audio Video store (Ovation) I was told I would get
better reception from my satellites IF I connected them to my sub
instead of my receiver and I would notice considerable difference
especially while listening to CD's or for that matter anything! ........
Any thoughts on the matter or should I leave well enough alone? MY
fear is the sub amp.might BLOW the sats.

1. The sub amp won't blow the sats because the sub amp won't be
driving them.
2. If you are using the RCA connection (Monster or not) to the sub,
you cannot connect the sats to the sub without buying another
amplifier.
3. The only way to connect the sats to the sub would be to use speaker
cables to the sub so that the Sony's amps can drive the sats while the
sub picks off the LF.
4. The advantage of (3) is that the sub probably has a crossover
network which will remove the extreme LF from the the sats and, in
fact, will permit them to handle even greater signal input than
before.
5. Of course, the JBL has to have speaker-level inputs and outputs for
this to work. You do not specify the model nor am I familiar with JBL
subs but your owner's manual should detail this.


If he does option 3, then the only bass the sub will get is from the
sat's. I'd stay away from that salesman if I were him. That is not the
way to setup HT.

Someday, I'm going to write a book called "The Home Theaters of Retail Home
Theater Salesmen." It's going to have big pictures of the janky set-ups
that most of these people seem to have. And nice, long equipment lists
like:

"2 MTX SuperTube 'Subwoofers'"
"1 'PowerAide' 1200W RMS Car audio amplifier"
"220 to 12 volt power transformer to power the car amplifier."
1 Sony Dolby-Digital Ready Receiver
5 x Speakers from a Kenwood HTIB
1 Xbox

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"steve" wrote in message
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Kalman Rubinson wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400, (Roger)
wrote:

I have JBL satellite speakers currently connected to my Sony STR-DE945
They are rated at 120 watts. i have a 250 watt JBL sub.ran by a high
end
Monster sub cable (25ft.) I have had this setup for about 2 yrs .
While
I was at a high end Audio Video store (Ovation) I was told I would get
better reception from my satellites IF I connected them to my sub
instead of my receiver and I would notice considerable difference
especially while listening to CD's or for that matter anything!
.........
Any thoughts on the matter or should I leave well enough alone? MY
fear is the sub amp.might BLOW the sats.

1. The sub amp won't blow the sats because the sub amp won't be
driving them.
2. If you are using the RCA connection (Monster or not) to the sub,
you cannot connect the sats to the sub without buying another
amplifier.
3. The only way to connect the sats to the sub would be to use speaker
cables to the sub so that the Sony's amps can drive the sats while the
sub picks off the LF.
4. The advantage of (3) is that the sub probably has a crossover
network which will remove the extreme LF from the the sats and, in
fact, will permit them to handle even greater signal input than
before.
5. Of course, the JBL has to have speaker-level inputs and outputs for
this to work. You do not specify the model nor am I familiar with JBL
subs but your owner's manual should detail this.


If he does option 3, then the only bass the sub will get is from the
sat's. I'd stay away from that salesman if I were him. That is not the
way to setup HT.

Someday, I'm going to write a book called "The Home Theaters of Retail
Home
Theater Salesmen." It's going to have big pictures of the janky set-ups
that most of these people seem to have. And nice, long equipment lists
like:

"2 MTX SuperTube 'Subwoofers'"
"1 'PowerAide' 1200W RMS Car audio amplifier"
"220 to 12 volt power transformer to power the car amplifier."
1 Sony Dolby-Digital Ready Receiver
5 x Speakers from a Kenwood HTIB
1 Xbox


Haha that's hilarious but definitely true for some of the idiots. A
1200watt car sub has gotta be nicer than a 400watt HT sub right? Put some
blue cathode lights on it and it will sound way better. Looking for a
co-author?

Jeremy
- A (competent) retail home theater salesman

My long equipment list:
2 x Athena AS-F1
1 x Athena AS-C1
4 x Athena AS-B1
1 x JBL E150P (hopefully SVS 20-39PCi soon)
Pioneer VSX-1015TX (replaced Onkyo 502)
Sony DVP-NS775V (long live SACD)
Pioneer CLD-S350 (for those few LDs I have)
Xbox (who doesn't?)
MonsterPower HTS1000MKII (Panamax if I had more money, Equi=tech if I was
rich)
ESA 27" CRT (maybe InFocus SP4805 someday)

Swallowtail wrote:


Someday, I'm going to write a book called "The Home Theaters of Retail Home
Theater Salesmen." It's going to have big pictures of the janky set-ups
that most of these people seem to have. And nice, long equipment lists
like:

"2 MTX SuperTube 'Subwoofers'"
"1 'PowerAide' 1200W RMS Car audio amplifier"
"220 to 12 volt power transformer to power the car amplifier."
1 Sony Dolby-Digital Ready Receiver
5 x Speakers from a Kenwood HTIB
1 Xbox

What about the salesman from the movie "Boogie Nights", and the
Rodriguez (sp) cartoons from Stereo Review mag?

Jeremy Gillow wrote:

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Jeremy
- A (competent) retail home theater salesman

My long equipment list:
2 x Athena AS-F1
1 x Athena AS-C1
4 x Athena AS-B1
1 x JBL E150P (hopefully SVS 20-39PCi soon)
Pioneer VSX-1015TX (replaced Onkyo 502)
Sony DVP-NS775V (long live SACD)
Pioneer CLD-S350 (for those few LDs I have)
Xbox (who doesn't?)
MonsterPower HTS1000MKII (Panamax if I had more money, Equi=tech if I
was
rich)
ESA 27" CRT (maybe InFocus SP4805 someday)

OK, you're a competent retail home theater salesman. But why is one of
your fondest wishes (apparently) upgrade-wise to spend megabucks on a
line-conditioner/surge-suppressor? I'm clueless as to the advantages.

Thanks,

Jeff

Swallowtail wrote:


Someday, I'm going to write a book called "The Home Theaters of Retail Home
Theater Salesmen." It's going to have big pictures of the janky set-ups
that most of these people seem to have. And nice, long equipment lists
like:

"2 MTX SuperTube 'Subwoofers'"
"1 'PowerAide' 1200W RMS Car audio amplifier"
"220 to 12 volt power transformer to power the car amplifier."
1 Sony Dolby-Digital Ready Receiver
5 x Speakers from a Kenwood HTIB
1 Xbox


Hey!

I'm going to find those surveillance cameras, you cant hide them forever!


TBerk

Heh I have no intention to buy one, I just know that equi=tech is reputed as
being one of the best for ultra-high end systems. A while back I watched
several movies in a friend's home theater that used equi=tech and wouldn't
hesitate to buy from them IF I was looking for that class of product. As
things stand, I would certainly upgrade other components before focusing on
power delivery, since it would seem wasteful to spend more on a conditioner
than on the sum of all the connected devices

Jeremy

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Jeremy Gillow wrote:

snip
Jeremy
- A (competent) retail home theater salesman

My long equipment list:
2 x Athena AS-F1
1 x Athena AS-C1
4 x Athena AS-B1
1 x JBL E150P (hopefully SVS 20-39PCi soon)
Pioneer VSX-1015TX (replaced Onkyo 502)
Sony DVP-NS775V (long live SACD)
Pioneer CLD-S350 (for those few LDs I have)
Xbox (who doesn't?)
MonsterPower HTS1000MKII (Panamax if I had more money, Equi=tech if I
was
rich)
ESA 27" CRT (maybe InFocus SP4805 someday)

OK, you're a competent retail home theater salesman. But why is one of
your fondest wishes (apparently) upgrade-wise to spend megabucks on a
line-conditioner/surge-suppressor? I'm clueless as to the advantages.

Thanks,

Jeff