Xtraview Ch 36

"Soruk" wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:25:15 +0100, Max Demian
wrote:
"Ad" wrote in message
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J.Michael Davison wrote:
Now shows an invitation to view TUTV by 'phoning a £1 number, giving
them
your 'viewer number' and keying in a PIN which they give you.
Desperate or what ?
Emley Moor, Hitachi IDTV
Mike D.

Viewer number?

I wonder whether anyone has cracked the code yet? It can't be anything
very
complicated.

Maybe all is needed is, like Red Hot, to find out the audio and video
PIDs...

What are these PIDs and how does one obtain them?

--
Max Demian

Max Demian wrote:


Viewer number?


I wonder whether anyone has cracked the code yet? It can't be anything very
complicated.


A top up T.v viewer number?
That means you got to subscribe to top up to get the sample. Strange.
It is not as easy as you think to crack. I doubt anyone will bother
anyway, for just £8 a month.

"Max Demian" wrote in message news:d31838
I wonder whether anyone has cracked the code yet? It can't be anything
very
complicated.

Maybe all is needed is, like Red Hot, to find out the audio and video
PIDs...

What are these PIDs and how does one obtain them?

No code to crack with these channels, they are not encryped. Not entirely
sure about this one, but Red Hot uses an interactive page that blocks
viewing of the video stream.
Don't know if you can get info on the Audio and Video streams on a STB, but
digitv tells you what mux a channel is on, the video stream (VideoPID) audio
steam (audioPID) and program info (ProgID).

The video PID is usually set at 1 hex value below the audio. I'm watching
BBC2 which is broadcast from Sandy Heath on channel 42, QAM 16. The Audio
PID is 0x263 and the video PID is 0x262.

Red Hot is also bradcast like this. DigiTV lets you set up custom channels,
so you put in the frequency, PIDs for audio (which is broadcast unblocked
and listed in the channel tech info) and video (which you work out, 1 hex
below audio), and Prog ID.
If all that was correct it should work, the interactive blocking screen is
bypassed and you are able to watch the unencrypted channel.

Trouble with this Xtraview channel is that the video is not braodcast with a
PID one hex value below the audio.
Anybody found it yet?

David

"DavidM" [email protected](I hate spam)cam.ac.uk wrote in message
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"Soruk" wrote in message
I wonder whether anyone has cracked the code yet? It can't be anything
very
complicated.

Maybe all is needed is, like Red Hot, to find out the audio and video
PIDs...

Yeah, I tried that. The video is somewhere else this time. Not one hex
value
lower than audio PID as on all other channels. Maybe if I captured the
whole
mux in digitv and then demuxed it... Can't remember if the auto file names
for each stream contail the PID description.

They do have the pid numbers - or you could use the free tsreaderlite from
http://www.coolstf.com/tsreader/ which does other stuff as well.

DavidM wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message news:d31838

I wonder whether anyone has cracked the code yet? It can't be anything
very
complicated.

Maybe all is needed is, like Red Hot, to find out the audio and video
PIDs...

What are these PIDs and how does one obtain them?


No code to crack with these channels, they are not encryped. Not entirely
sure about this one, but Red Hot uses an interactive page that blocks
viewing of the video stream.
Don't know if you can get info on the Audio and Video streams on a STB, but
digitv tells you what mux a channel is on, the video stream (VideoPID) audio
steam (audioPID) and program info (ProgID).

The video PID is usually set at 1 hex value below the audio. I'm watching
BBC2 which is broadcast from Sandy Heath on channel 42, QAM 16. The Audio
PID is 0x263 and the video PID is 0x262.

Red Hot is also bradcast like this. DigiTV lets you set up custom channels,
so you put in the frequency, PIDs for audio (which is broadcast unblocked
and listed in the channel tech info) and video (which you work out, 1 hex
below audio), and Prog ID.
If all that was correct it should work, the interactive blocking screen is
bypassed and you are able to watch the unencrypted channel.

Trouble with this Xtraview channel is that the video is not braodcast with a
PID one hex value below the audio.
Anybody found it yet?

David



I haven't the foggiest what any these values mean, but TSReader gives
the following information about LCN 36 on Freeview...

Program Number: 36/15744
PCR on PID 2304 (0x0900)
Service name: Xtraview
Logical channel number: 36

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data
Elementary Stream PID 5989 (0x1765)

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data
Elementary Stream PID 7560 (0x1d88)

Stream Type: 0x0b ISO/IEC 13818-6 type B
Elementary Stream PID 7082 (0x1baa)

"Rob" wrote in message
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I haven't the foggiest what any these values mean, but TSReader gives the
following information about LCN 36 on Freeview...

Program Number: 36/15744
PCR on PID 2304 (0x0900)
Service name: Xtraview
Logical channel number: 36

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data
Elementary Stream PID 5989 (0x1765)

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data
Elementary Stream PID 7560 (0x1d88)

Stream Type: 0x0b ISO/IEC 13818-6 type B
Elementary Stream PID 7082 (0x1baa)

Cheers, that works. Is there a logical conversion from 5989 to 0x1765?
DigiTV cant use 5989 as a Video PID.

David

Its the hex values you want to use (1765 and 1d88). You should be able
to enter these directly into digitv if I remember correctly.

0x1765 (hex) in decimal is 5989

ie. 1765 = 0001 0111 0110 0101
=(2^0+2^2+2^5+2^6......)
=1+4+32+64+256+512+1024+4096

=5989

Rob

DavidM wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
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I haven't the foggiest what any these values mean, but TSReader gives the
following information about LCN 36 on Freeview...

Program Number: 36/15744
PCR on PID 2304 (0x0900)
Service name: Xtraview
Logical channel number: 36

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data
Elementary Stream PID 5989 (0x1765)

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data
Elementary Stream PID 7560 (0x1d88)

Stream Type: 0x0b ISO/IEC 13818-6 type B
Elementary Stream PID 7082 (0x1baa)


Cheers, that works. Is there a logical conversion from 5989 to 0x1765?
DigiTV cant use 5989 as a Video PID.

David

"DavidM" [email protected] (i hate spam)cam.ac.uk wrote in message
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"Rob" wrote in message
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I haven't the foggiest what any these values mean, but TSReader gives
the
following information about LCN 36 on Freeview...

Program Number: 36/15744
PCR on PID 2304 (0x0900)
Service name: Xtraview
Logical channel number: 36

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data
Elementary Stream PID 5989 (0x1765)

Stream Type: 0x06 ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data
Elementary Stream PID 7560 (0x1d88)

Stream Type: 0x0b ISO/IEC 13818-6 type B
Elementary Stream PID 7082 (0x1baa)

Cheers, that works. Is there a logical conversion from 5989 to 0x1765?
DigiTV cant use 5989 as a Video PID.

David
In all windows O.S.'s there's a handy calculator which in scientific mode
allows direct conversion between hexadecimal and decimal number systems.
There's octal and binary too for completeness.
Mike D.

In all windows O.S.'s there's a handy calculator which in scientific mode
allows direct conversion between hexadecimal and decimal number systems.
There's octal and binary too for completeness.
Mike D.



That's the cheating easy way!

Rob

Hi. Thanks guys for your help.
Newbie here, but I'm getting the hang of fiddling with my DigiTV PCI card.
Got RedHot going okay (not that it's really worth it, but hey..)

I'm a bit confused about the exact details though for my Nebula DigiTV program. I know how to enter the channels and I know the frequency that Extraview's going out on where I am.
I'm just not sure exactly where to put all the details (in DigiTV order):

Program ID: ?? Am I right to assume that this is PCR PID: 0x0900?
Video PCR: ??
Video PID: 0x1765
Audio PCR: ??
Audio PID: 0x1d88

Sorry if I try anyone's patience.
I understand if you're a little peeved at a new member jut trying to get free TV, but if you can help, I'd appreciate it very much.
Thanks!