Let's return to yeasteryear

In looking for my deleted post on AVSFORM I found Bob Utne.

Bob Utne was banned from AVSFORUM. Many thought he was me. Not so. It
seems they didn't delete all his old post. Here is one from early 2001.
Don't think he meant HDTV was destined to die but 8-VSB. It is sort of
hard for a modulation to die in the digital age.

Bob Utne wrote:

Need to develop a groundswell of HDTV consumer proponents to put
pressure on Congress and the FCC to implement a workable HDTV transition
plan. It will not come from any other source.

Few consumers realize that neither the broadcasters, networks, cable
systems, Hollywood, PC industry nor other major business powers
including AOL and MSFT want universal HDTV in the US. It is not in their
business plans and, quite frankly, goes contrary to their respective goals.

Broadcasters received about $70 billion of free digital spectrum and are
loath to even consider giving up their analog spectrum. With all the
faults of 8-VSB, chances are that we will continue to have analog
through the end of this Century! That's why they support a terrestrial
delivery system guaranteed to whither.

We all know the problems that the cable systems and Hollywood have with
HDTV but few realize that the other major economic powers like AOL and
Microsoft want interactive TV installed with their own browsers so they
can capture your living rooms as well as your dens/offices. All they
need is upgraded analog TVs to accomplish this.

The Bush Administration has an unique opportunity to set things right.
However, without strong consumer pressure, HDTV in the US is destined to
die. Personally, as a former ATSC member, I believe 8-VSB is a faulty
system and, immediately, would replace it with COFDM to get HDTV on the
right worldwide track.

[This message has been edited by Bob Utne (edited 02-22-2001).]

Once again, bob would rather rehash old failed arguments than accept the
simple truth: ATSC works and works well for its intended purpose.

Matthew

--
http://www.mlmartin.com/bbq/

Thermodynamics For Dummies: You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't get out of the game.

Once again, bob would rather rehash old failed arguments than accept the
simple truth: ATSC works and works well for its intended purpose.

Matthew

--
http://www.mlmartin.com/bbq/

Thermodynamics For Dummies: You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't get out of the game.

"Matthew L. Martin" wrote in message
s.com...
Once again, bob would rather rehash old failed arguments than accept the
simple truth: ATSC works and works well for its intended purpose.


The other day, Blob pointed me to a British forum where I could read for
hours about *interference-plagued COFDM*.

Then, this morning, links to threads from February 2001 that contain
hundreds of real-world *8VSB-supporting* postings.

LOL

"Matthew L. Martin" wrote in message
s.com...
Once again, bob would rather rehash old failed arguments than accept the
simple truth: ATSC works and works well for its intended purpose.


The other day, Blob pointed me to a British forum where I could read for
hours about *interference-plagued COFDM*.

Then, this morning, links to threads from February 2001 that contain
hundreds of real-world *8VSB-supporting* postings.

LOL

maybe Mr. Miller's motivation is one the most basic -- greed.

As President of Viacel he would reap great rewards with an implemention of
the technology he speaks so highly of.....

See -- http://www.mwee.com/mwee_news/OEG20020528S0043


"Bob Miller" wrote in message
hlink.net...
In looking for my deleted post on AVSFORM I found Bob Utne.

Bob Utne was banned from AVSFORUM. Many thought he was me. Not so. It
seems they didn't delete all his old post. Here is one from early 2001.
Don't think he meant HDTV was destined to die but 8-VSB. It is sort of
hard for a modulation to die in the digital age.

Bob Utne wrote:

Need to develop a groundswell of HDTV consumer proponents to put
pressure on Congress and the FCC to implement a workable HDTV transition
plan. It will not come from any other source.

Few consumers realize that neither the broadcasters, networks, cable
systems, Hollywood, PC industry nor other major business powers
including AOL and MSFT want universal HDTV in the US. It is not in their
business plans and, quite frankly, goes contrary to their respective
goals.

Broadcasters received about $70 billion of free digital spectrum and are
loath to even consider giving up their analog spectrum. With all the
faults of 8-VSB, chances are that we will continue to have analog
through the end of this Century! That's why they support a terrestrial
delivery system guaranteed to whither.

We all know the problems that the cable systems and Hollywood have with
HDTV but few realize that the other major economic powers like AOL and
Microsoft want interactive TV installed with their own browsers so they
can capture your living rooms as well as your dens/offices. All they
need is upgraded analog TVs to accomplish this.

The Bush Administration has an unique opportunity to set things right.
However, without strong consumer pressure, HDTV in the US is destined to
die. Personally, as a former ATSC member, I believe 8-VSB is a faulty
system and, immediately, would replace it with COFDM to get HDTV on the
right worldwide track.

[This message has been edited by Bob Utne (edited 02-22-2001).]

maybe Mr. Miller's motivation is one the most basic -- greed.

As President of Viacel he would reap great rewards with an implemention of
the technology he speaks so highly of.....

See -- http://www.mwee.com/mwee_news/OEG20020528S0043


"Bob Miller" wrote in message
hlink.net...
In looking for my deleted post on AVSFORM I found Bob Utne.

Bob Utne was banned from AVSFORUM. Many thought he was me. Not so. It
seems they didn't delete all his old post. Here is one from early 2001.
Don't think he meant HDTV was destined to die but 8-VSB. It is sort of
hard for a modulation to die in the digital age.

Bob Utne wrote:

Need to develop a groundswell of HDTV consumer proponents to put
pressure on Congress and the FCC to implement a workable HDTV transition
plan. It will not come from any other source.

Few consumers realize that neither the broadcasters, networks, cable
systems, Hollywood, PC industry nor other major business powers
including AOL and MSFT want universal HDTV in the US. It is not in their
business plans and, quite frankly, goes contrary to their respective
goals.

Broadcasters received about $70 billion of free digital spectrum and are
loath to even consider giving up their analog spectrum. With all the
faults of 8-VSB, chances are that we will continue to have analog
through the end of this Century! That's why they support a terrestrial
delivery system guaranteed to whither.

We all know the problems that the cable systems and Hollywood have with
HDTV but few realize that the other major economic powers like AOL and
Microsoft want interactive TV installed with their own browsers so they
can capture your living rooms as well as your dens/offices. All they
need is upgraded analog TVs to accomplish this.

The Bush Administration has an unique opportunity to set things right.
However, without strong consumer pressure, HDTV in the US is destined to
die. Personally, as a former ATSC member, I believe 8-VSB is a faulty
system and, immediately, would replace it with COFDM to get HDTV on the
right worldwide track.

[This message has been edited by Bob Utne (edited 02-22-2001).]

ctsooner wrote:
maybe Mr. Miller's motivation is one the most basic -- greed.

As President of Viacel he would reap great rewards with an implemention of
the technology he speaks so highly of.....

See -- http://www.mwee.com/mwee_news/OEG20020528S0043


Did Viacel bid in that auction? I don't think they had enough money to
play. I would have no problem with Viacel purchasing bandwidth and doing
whatever the hell they wanted with it. The problem is they have so
little capital they are trying to be parasites on the DTV spectrum,
which is not going to be auctioned off.

Matthew

--
http://www.mlmartin.com/bbq/

Thermodynamics For Dummies: You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't get out of the game.

ctsooner wrote:
maybe Mr. Miller's motivation is one the most basic -- greed.

As President of Viacel he would reap great rewards with an implemention of
the technology he speaks so highly of.....

See -- http://www.mwee.com/mwee_news/OEG20020528S0043


Did Viacel bid in that auction? I don't think they had enough money to
play. I would have no problem with Viacel purchasing bandwidth and doing
whatever the hell they wanted with it. The problem is they have so
little capital they are trying to be parasites on the DTV spectrum,
which is not going to be auctioned off.

Matthew

--
http://www.mlmartin.com/bbq/

Thermodynamics For Dummies: You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't get out of the game.

In article k.net,
Bob Miller wrote:

In looking for my deleted post on AVSFORM I found Bob Utne.

Bob Utne was banned from AVSFORUM. Many thought he was me. Not so.

Ya. Sure, boob. Just keep on trying to convince us. Any chance you could
return to yesteryear? Perhaps by going back into the womb?