why cant they run the bloody programs on time!

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Max Demian wrote:

For minor programme timing errors they don't bother to change the
now/next.

Yes they do, because AIUI the EIT/EPG triggers are driven from the playout
computer (that also drives the playout servers etc)

There often seems to be no relation with BBC7 on Freeview, but maybe they
use wind-up equipment for Round the Horne etc.

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The Bloke Next Door wrote:

Note the start time of 'Coronation Street' this evening.

Coronation St titles started at 19:33:25

And I missed the start of the programme I wanted to watch on BBC2 to check
that...
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Dave

"Arthur" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:35:05 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

I agree, but we're preaching to the converted in here.


So, I'm sorry. This is the only place anyone *listens*.
And why do they run a trailer for a programme that is just about to start?

Mark Carver wrote:
(snip)

I agree, but we're preaching to the converted in here. It's the fluff
head marketing types that are responsible for TV presentation who have
adopted this policy. They seem to forget the whole idea of BBC TV is
to show programmes, not trailers, but they're too busy producing
programme junction showreels for themselves (with our money) to care.

My "favourite" latest annoyance by the morons mentioned above is the
ever-increasing tendency to squeeze up the width of the credits at the end
of a programme, in order to show something inane (and totally unnecessary)
about the next programme on. It always happens just when I'm trying to
identify an obscure member of the cast!

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Clem Dye wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Arthur wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:35:05 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:


I agree, but we're preaching to the converted in here.


So, I'm sorry. This is the only place anyone *listens*.



It might be the only place that you can have a moan about these
things without appearing to be a bit pedantic or a moaner (e.g. it's
not something you bring up in the pub), but I reckon if they
bothered to ask the man in the street whether they think the BBC
broadcast too many adverts (or whatever you want to call them) then
I'd expect them to completely agree with what we think on here.

It's a bit like commercial adverts; when you see a new one sometimes
they're not too bad to watch, but then once you've seen them a
certain number of times, no matter how good they were initially, you
just sigh and think "get on with it". And in that respect that's
just what I think about the sodding BBC things, whatever you call
them. Does Ms Heggessey seriously think that we enjoy watching
flamenco dancers grinning inanely while dancing in the rain for the
1,936th time? And don't even get me started about their true
advertising blitzes they have.....
Well, I can tell you that the BBC has no real interest in changing.
Three years ago I was appointed to the BBC's London Regional Advisory
Council to discuss and monitor regional TV/radio content - I'm no
longer a member so don't moan at me! On many occasions I complained
about what's been discussed in this thread: programmes not running to
schedule, ads. when the schedule is screwed up, on-screen logos on
BBC3/4, and so on. As you can see, nothing has changed, so, as I see
it, if someone appointed to the BBC as a watchdog/critic can't get
anything changed then I submit that there's no hope for any of us
customers/viewers/BBC staff salary payers/whatever.


None of that surprises me one iota, because I know first-hand what it's
like dealing with the BBC.

One possible change since you left, though, is that because there's a
new DG and Chairman, and especially given some of the comments Michael
Grade has made, e.g.:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/

"The real test of any organisation is how it deals with complaints from
the public."

then you might get some joy now, when under Greg Dyke et al you
wouldn't.


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Perhaps the way forward is to assume that the broadcasters actually are
incompetant and cannot tell the time ...

How difficult would it be to record ALL the incoming data from a Multiplex?
for the whole day... how much data is that?

Then to have a smart software package which extracted from the multiplexed
data ... the program you wanted ... without the ads or the DOGs

So you could watch what YOU wanted at a time convenient to YOU ...

Surely that would be worth money ...




Did I see a recent headline suggesting that license fees would shortly be
abolished.. and therefore all TV income would be from subscriptions ..

I think I would be prepared to pay the BBC £60 a year for their service if
they cut back on repeats, and their incredibly silly ads for other programs
/ channels, .... oh ... and removed ALL on screen graphics ..
particularly from the News Channel.

The argument for Pay As You Go TV has always been that you will get what you
are prepared to pay for.

Personally I am NOT prepared to pay for

1 rubbishy Programs

2 Programs interrupted by adverts

3 Prograns where the sound track is overlaid with silly commentary

4 Programs where the video is correupted with on screen displays which
are not specifically relevnt to the program being watched.



Perhaps the battle is lost ... perhaps quality TV for free is a thing of the
past... in which case let us get on with the war ... and refuse to pay for
junk.


John

No, my hard disk is usually near to full, and what about DVD-Rs? If
there's an hour long programme I want to record, and an hour's free space on
my media, then the system should let me record it accurately.

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oups.com...

That's OK - it's so
rare I'll just tape the whole night's TV if I'm that bothered.