Article: "Europe's first high-definition channel makes trial run"

I found this article today which is titled,

"Europe's first high-definition channel makes trial run"
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...es/6778743.htm

here are some excerpts..

"AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - Europe's first high-definition
television channel went on the air over the weekend with a trial
broadcast of music and sports programming. Only next year is the
technology set to go mainstream."

Oh boy.. Europe's 1st ... very first HDTV station goes on the air.

Baghdad bob (Sinclare) can finally come back to hdtv newsgourp and
write something intelligent... NOT!!!!

"Europe's shift to the sharper images and clearer sound of
high-definition TV is moving much slower than in the United States,
where several million HDTV sets are already in use."

Slower... No kidding ... how about snails pace..

Thanks, Tim.
Hmmmm...Interesting that COFDM rcvrs will be _more_ expensive than our 8vsb
models.

I sure hope those folks don't experience the horrendous
interference/overload problems that the Brits have been battling..
-Dave


"Tim Keating" wrote in message
...
I found this article today which is titled,

"Europe's first high-definition channel makes trial run"

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...es/6778743.htm

here are some excerpts..

"AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - Europe's first high-definition
television channel went on the air over the weekend with a trial
broadcast of music and sports programming. Only next year is the
technology set to go mainstream."

Oh boy.. Europe's 1st ... very first HDTV station goes on the air.

Baghdad bob (Sinclare) can finally come back to hdtv newsgourp and
write something intelligent... NOT!!!!

"Europe's shift to the sharper images and clearer sound of
high-definition TV is moving much slower than in the United States,
where several million HDTV sets are already in use."

Slower... No kidding ... how about snails pace..

Thanks, Tim.
Hmmmm...Interesting that COFDM rcvrs will be _more_ expensive than our 8vsb
models.

I sure hope those folks don't experience the horrendous
interference/overload problems that the Brits have been battling..
-Dave


"Tim Keating" wrote in message
...
I found this article today which is titled,

"Europe's first high-definition channel makes trial run"

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...es/6778743.htm

here are some excerpts..

"AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - Europe's first high-definition
television channel went on the air over the weekend with a trial
broadcast of music and sports programming. Only next year is the
technology set to go mainstream."

Oh boy.. Europe's 1st ... very first HDTV station goes on the air.

Baghdad bob (Sinclare) can finally come back to hdtv newsgourp and
write something intelligent... NOT!!!!

"Europe's shift to the sharper images and clearer sound of
high-definition TV is moving much slower than in the United States,
where several million HDTV sets are already in use."

Slower... No kidding ... how about snails pace..

"David" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Tim.
Hmmmm...Interesting that COFDM rcvrs will be _more_ expensive than our
8vsb
models.

I sure hope those folks don't experience the horrendous
interference/overload problems that the Brits have been battling..
-Dave


"Tim Keating" wrote in message
...
I found this article today which is titled,

"Europe's first high-definition channel makes trial run"


http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...es/6778743.htm

here are some excerpts..

"AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - Europe's first high-definition
television channel went on the air over the weekend with a trial
broadcast of music and sports programming. Only next year is the
technology set to go mainstream."

Oh boy.. Europe's 1st ... very first HDTV station goes on the air.

Baghdad bob (Sinclare) can finally come back to hdtv newsgourp and
write something intelligent... NOT!!!!

"Europe's shift to the sharper images and clearer sound of
high-definition TV is moving much slower than in the United States,
where several million HDTV sets are already in use."

Slower... No kidding ... how about snails pace..


You mean Bob has been lying, exaggerating, twisting facts, and misleading us
all this time? Who would have known?

Leonard Caillouet

"David" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Tim.
Hmmmm...Interesting that COFDM rcvrs will be _more_ expensive than our
8vsb
models.

I sure hope those folks don't experience the horrendous
interference/overload problems that the Brits have been battling..
-Dave


"Tim Keating" wrote in message
...
I found this article today which is titled,

"Europe's first high-definition channel makes trial run"


http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...es/6778743.htm

here are some excerpts..

"AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - Europe's first high-definition
television channel went on the air over the weekend with a trial
broadcast of music and sports programming. Only next year is the
technology set to go mainstream."

Oh boy.. Europe's 1st ... very first HDTV station goes on the air.

Baghdad bob (Sinclare) can finally come back to hdtv newsgourp and
write something intelligent... NOT!!!!

"Europe's shift to the sharper images and clearer sound of
high-definition TV is moving much slower than in the United States,
where several million HDTV sets are already in use."

Slower... No kidding ... how about snails pace..


You mean Bob has been lying, exaggerating, twisting facts, and misleading us
all this time? Who would have known?

Leonard Caillouet

"Tim Keating" wrote in message
...
I found this article today which is titled,

"Europe's first high-definition channel makes trial run"

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...es/6778743.htm

I like the part where the European HD set top boxes cost $550

I though Bob told us that they were so cheap that manufacturers paid you to
take one.

Randy Sweeney wrote:

"Tim Keating" wrote in message
...

I found this article today which is titled,

"Europe's first high-definition channel makes trial run"


http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...es/6778743.htm

I like the part where the European HD set top boxes cost $550

I though Bob told us that they were so cheap that manufacturers paid you to
take one.


The European HDTV is delivered via satellite. The only thing I have
talked about is OTA DVB-T receivers.

If broadcasters had been allowed to use DVB-T COFDM in the US OTA DVB-T
SDTV receivers would be vying with DVD players for news headlines about
surprisingly low priced electronics this Christmas.

Both HD and SD COFDM receivers would be available at $75 (SD) and $125
(HD).

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...

The European HDTV is delivered via satellite. The only thing I have
talked about is OTA DVB-T receivers.

If broadcasters had been allowed to use DVB-T COFDM in the US OTA DVB-T
SDTV receivers would be vying with DVD players for news headlines about
surprisingly low priced electronics this Christmas.

Both HD and SD COFDM receivers would be available at $75 (SD) and $125
(HD).


The reason OTA HDTV set top boxes are expensive has ZERO to do with the
modulation standard.

The real reason HDTV STB's are expensive is because of the hardware needed
to decode high resolution MPEG is not inconsequential. For example, it
takes a Pentium 3 GHz to really decode HDTV broadcasts in software, so the
hardware you are looking at is quite "beefy". Also, the boxes are having
low sales because many people are buying HDTV's only to watch DVD, so they
cannot lower the price yet until sales pick up. Many people are watching
digital satellite and cable on big rear projectors, thinking they are
watching HDTV (often stretched out and distorted, too).

8VSB has a few bugs that could be worked out, but price of the STB's is
no different than COFDM.

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
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Randy Sweeney wrote:

"Tim Keating" wrote in message
...

I found this article today which is titled,

"Europe's first high-definition channel makes trial run"



http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/sil...es/6778743.htm

I like the part where the European HD set top boxes cost $550

I though Bob told us that they were so cheap that manufacturers paid you
to
take one.


The European HDTV is delivered via satellite. The only thing I have
talked about is OTA DVB-T receivers.

If broadcasters had been allowed to use DVB-T COFDM in the US OTA DVB-T
SDTV receivers would be vying with DVD players for news headlines about
surprisingly low priced electronics this Christmas.

Both HD and SD COFDM receivers would be available at $75 (SD) and $125
(HD).


So there is still no OTA HDTV in Europe with the famed DVB-T COFDM
modulation.

Both HD and SD COFDM receivers would be available at $75 (SD) and $125
(HD).

What difference does it make if ours is $300 and theirs is $100? I will sit
down tonight and have 5 different networks to watch HD stuff on, tonight and
every night...COFDM is doing such gangbuster business that Europe announces
"whoopee, we finally have HDTV!!"...and it isn't even COFDM, it's off some damn
satellite I have to pay $550 to watch to watch 2 channels...plus they sound
like half ass PBS HD loops that run in carousel fashion all day long with some
soccer games thrown in.