Ofcom says Top-up TV "misleading"

JPG wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:06:44 +0100, "Harry12" wrote:

Ofcom has banned a TUTV advert after viewers' complaints. The advert
breached the advertising code by claiming that the package contained ten
channels, but a maximum of only five is available at any one time, reducing
to just two in the early hours of the morning. Sanity prevails.


Sounds like a very poor use of bandwidth, and not just Top-Up TV. Cable and
satellite seem to be also bursting at the seams bandwidth-wise during peak
times, reducing to just about sweet FA during the wee small hours.

This means that all the unused night-time bandwidth is going to waste. What is
needed is some method of utilising the spare night-time bandwidth to store TV
channels and muxes locally, and then "release" them during the day as extra
channels.

HDD recorders would be one answer (possibly the only one at the present time)
and might even allow HDD TV to be broadcast at night and then retransmitted
during the day.

It'd be nice in a way if digital media had not taken off until it was
possible economically to store all channels broadcast for a week.

Repeats take no bandwidth, adverts are all locally stored, statmuxing
for non-live programs can happen over periods of minutes, radio only uses
the bandwidth needed for unique content, ...

JPG wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:06:44 +0100, "Harry12" wrote:

Ofcom has banned a TUTV advert after viewers' complaints. The advert
breached the advertising code by claiming that the package contained ten
channels, but a maximum of only five is available at any one time, reducing
to just two in the early hours of the morning. Sanity prevails.


And one of those is an IR camera in the Big Brother bedroom.

I'm very dissapointed that nobodies worked out IR transmissive blankets
yet

JPG wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:06:44 +0100, "Harry12" wrote:

Ofcom has banned a TUTV advert after viewers' complaints. The advert
breached the advertising code by claiming that the package contained ten
channels, but a maximum of only five is available at any one time, reducing
to just two in the early hours of the morning. Sanity prevails.


And one of those is an IR camera in the Big Brother bedroom.

I'm very dissapointed that nobodies worked out IR transmissive blankets
yet

In article ,
says...
HDD recorders would be one answer (possibly the only one at the present time)
and might even allow HDD TV to be broadcast at night and then retransmitted
during the day.

It'd be nice in a way if digital media had not taken off until it was
possible economically to store all channels broadcast for a week.

Repeats take no bandwidth, adverts are all locally stored, statmuxing
for non-live programs can happen over periods of minutes, radio only uses
the bandwidth needed for unique content, ...

When will we get Freeview boxes with twin tuners? (and affordable)

If analogue is switched off (2010, my best hat), I don't want one separate box
to record from and one to watch from, on every TV in the house. I'd soon run
out of plug sockets.
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In article ,
says...
HDD recorders would be one answer (possibly the only one at the present time)
and might even allow HDD TV to be broadcast at night and then retransmitted
during the day.

It'd be nice in a way if digital media had not taken off until it was
possible economically to store all channels broadcast for a week.

Repeats take no bandwidth, adverts are all locally stored, statmuxing
for non-live programs can happen over periods of minutes, radio only uses
the bandwidth needed for unique content, ...

When will we get Freeview boxes with twin tuners? (and affordable)

If analogue is switched off (2010, my best hat), I don't want one separate box
to record from and one to watch from, on every TV in the house. I'd soon run
out of plug sockets.
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor), http://LeilaniWeb.co.uk (editor),
/* 992 DVDs, 293 games, 33 videos, 87 cinema films, 77 CDs, concerts & news
/* lost in translation, driv3r, red hot chili peppers, sex lives of potato men
Fight back against "PRESS RED": http://dvdfever.co.uk/pressrel/pressred.shtml
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Dom Robinson wrote:
In article ,
says...
HDD recorders would be one answer (possibly the only one at the
present time) and might even allow HDD TV to be broadcast at night
and then retransmitted during the day.

It'd be nice in a way if digital media had not taken off until it was
possible economically to store all channels broadcast for a week.

Repeats take no bandwidth, adverts are all locally stored, statmuxing
for non-live programs can happen over periods of minutes, radio only
uses the bandwidth needed for unique content, ...

When will we get Freeview boxes with twin tuners? (and affordable)


I reckon either the run-up to Christmas or January sales, although it
depends what you call affordable.


--
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DAB sounds worse than FM, Freeview, digital satellite, cable and
broadband internet radio

Dom Robinson wrote:
In article ,
says...
HDD recorders would be one answer (possibly the only one at the
present time) and might even allow HDD TV to be broadcast at night
and then retransmitted during the day.

It'd be nice in a way if digital media had not taken off until it was
possible economically to store all channels broadcast for a week.

Repeats take no bandwidth, adverts are all locally stored, statmuxing
for non-live programs can happen over periods of minutes, radio only
uses the bandwidth needed for unique content, ...

When will we get Freeview boxes with twin tuners? (and affordable)


I reckon either the run-up to Christmas or January sales, although it
depends what you call affordable.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

DAB sounds worse than FM, Freeview, digital satellite, cable and
broadband internet radio

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:59:06 GMT, Ian Stirling wrote:

JPG wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:06:44 +0100, "Harry12" wrote:

Ofcom has banned a TUTV advert after viewers' complaints. The advert
breached the advertising code by claiming that the package contained ten
channels, but a maximum of only five is available at any one time, reducing
to just two in the early hours of the morning. Sanity prevails.


Sounds like a very poor use of bandwidth, and not just Top-Up TV. Cable and
satellite seem to be also bursting at the seams bandwidth-wise during peak
times, reducing to just about sweet FA during the wee small hours.

This means that all the unused night-time bandwidth is going to waste. What is
needed is some method of utilising the spare night-time bandwidth to store TV
channels and muxes locally, and then "release" them during the day as extra
channels.

HDD recorders would be one answer (possibly the only one at the present time)
and might even allow HDD TV to be broadcast at night and then retransmitted
during the day.

It'd be nice in a way if digital media had not taken off until it was
possible economically to store all channels broadcast for a week.

Repeats take no bandwidth, adverts are all locally stored, statmuxing
for non-live programs can happen over periods of minutes, radio only uses
the bandwidth needed for unique content, ...


What is the typical but-rate for a mux? IOW how much HDD space would be
required for an hour's worth, a week's worth?

How much HDD space for a week's worth of DTTV?

JPG

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:59:06 GMT, Ian Stirling wrote:

JPG wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:06:44 +0100, "Harry12" wrote:

Ofcom has banned a TUTV advert after viewers' complaints. The advert
breached the advertising code by claiming that the package contained ten
channels, but a maximum of only five is available at any one time, reducing
to just two in the early hours of the morning. Sanity prevails.


Sounds like a very poor use of bandwidth, and not just Top-Up TV. Cable and
satellite seem to be also bursting at the seams bandwidth-wise during peak
times, reducing to just about sweet FA during the wee small hours.

This means that all the unused night-time bandwidth is going to waste. What is
needed is some method of utilising the spare night-time bandwidth to store TV
channels and muxes locally, and then "release" them during the day as extra
channels.

HDD recorders would be one answer (possibly the only one at the present time)
and might even allow HDD TV to be broadcast at night and then retransmitted
during the day.

It'd be nice in a way if digital media had not taken off until it was
possible economically to store all channels broadcast for a week.

Repeats take no bandwidth, adverts are all locally stored, statmuxing
for non-live programs can happen over periods of minutes, radio only uses
the bandwidth needed for unique content, ...


What is the typical but-rate for a mux? IOW how much HDD space would be
required for an hour's worth, a week's worth?

How much HDD space for a week's worth of DTTV?

JPG

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 12:08:27 +0100, JPG wrote:

What is the typical but-rate for a mux?

18 or 24 Mbit/sec.

IOW how much HDD space would be required for an hour's worth

8 or 11 gigabytes.

a week's worth?

1.3 or 1.8 terabytes. Per mux.

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"On second thought, let's not go to Z'Ha'Dum. It is a silly place."