BBC3 = CBBC ?

Are BBC3 and CBBC in some sense the same channel?

Being both on the same mux but never at the same time is suspicious.
But sometimes the wrong channel will appear. Suppose I watch CBBC,
turn the STB off before 7pm, wait until after 7pm and turn it back on.
The LCN is still set to CBBC but BBC3 will sometimes appear for a
little while before saying "Woops" and switching to the "This is CBBC"
screen.

Is there a "real" channel number (within the mux) behind the LCN? If
so, is it documented anywhere?

BBC4 and CBeebies would seem to be another similar pairing but we have
no CBeebies watchers in the house so I have not see the wrong channel
effect in that case. I did once notice the effect on one of the odder
channels but I forget which it was.

Does the odd community channel borrow space from one of the more
normal channels? Which one?

This all adds up to the question: how many real channels are there and
how are they paired (or grouped)?

Seán O'Leathlóbhair

In article , Sean
O'Leathlobhair writes
Are BBC3 and CBBC in some sense the same channel?

Yes, they time-share space on the digital multiplex. BBC4 and Cbeebies
are the same.
--
Tim Mitchell

"Tim Mitchell" wrote in message
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In article , Sean
O'Leathlobhair writes
Are BBC3 and CBBC in some sense the same channel?

Yes, they time-share space on the digital multiplex. BBC4 and Cbeebies
are the same.
--
Tim Mitchell

I don`t understand the point of the BBC broadcasting CBBC on 2 channels
during the afernoons myself.

On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:21:10 +0100, "uselesses"
wrote:


"Tim Mitchell" wrote in message
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In article , Sean
O'Leathlobhair writes
Are BBC3 and CBBC in some sense the same channel?

Yes, they time-share space on the digital multiplex. BBC4 and Cbeebies
are the same.
--
Tim Mitchell

I don`t understand the point of the BBC broadcasting CBBC on 2 channels
during the afernoons myself.

Eh? Since when have they done that...?

If you are referring to the fact that BBC1 shows kids TV between 3:30
and 5:30 then its pretty obvious why!

BBC1/BBC2 CBBC - been doing it for years plus not everyone can get
Cbeebies or CBBC channels via dtv

Cbeebies and CBBC are dedicated digital channels for targeted age
groups showing different programmes to BBC1/2 CBBC

What's wrong with that?

Are you not a parent? ;-)

--


Moldy

"Then you have the low-carb dieters. This involves the active avoidance of
life-giving antioxidants while scarfing massive amounts of known carcinogens
until someone punches you to death for bragging about how much weight you
lost." - Scott Adams

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On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:21:10 +0100, "uselesses"
wrote:


"Tim Mitchell" wrote in message
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In article , Sean
O'Leathlobhair writes
Are BBC3 and CBBC in some sense the same channel?

Yes, they time-share space on the digital multiplex. BBC4 and Cbeebies
are the same.
--
Tim Mitchell

I don`t understand the point of the BBC broadcasting CBBC on 2 channels
during the afernoons myself.

Eh? Since when have they done that...?

If you are referring to the fact that BBC1 shows kids TV between 3:30
and 5:30 then its pretty obvious why!

BBC1/BBC2 CBBC - been doing it for years plus not everyone can get
Cbeebies or CBBC channels via dtv

Cbeebies and CBBC are dedicated digital channels for targeted age
groups showing different programmes to BBC1/2 CBBC

What's wrong with that?

Are you not a parent? ;-)
No I ain`t )
What the bloody hell`s it doing on during the daytime while the kids are at
school anyway?
Pffft

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"Moldy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:21:10 +0100, "uselesses"
wrote:


"Tim Mitchell" wrote in message
...
In article , Sean
O'Leathlobhair writes
Are BBC3 and CBBC in some sense the same channel?

Yes, they time-share space on the digital multiplex. BBC4 and
Cbeebies
are the same.
--
Tim Mitchell

I don`t understand the point of the BBC broadcasting CBBC on 2 channels
during the afernoons myself.

Eh? Since when have they done that...?

If you are referring to the fact that BBC1 shows kids TV between 3:30
and 5:30 then its pretty obvious why!

BBC1/BBC2 CBBC - been doing it for years plus not everyone can get
Cbeebies or CBBC channels via dtv

Cbeebies and CBBC are dedicated digital channels for targeted age
groups showing different programmes to BBC1/2 CBBC

What's wrong with that?

Are you not a parent? ;-)
No I ain`t )
What the bloody hell`s it doing on during the daytime while the kids are
at
school anyway?

Between 9am and 1pm the CBBC Channel shows schools programmes during term
time, but you wouldn't have checked that out before your rant. However if
you would like a valid argument, you could ask why there are a dozen other
kids channels on air with cartoons.

What the bloody hell`s it doing on during the daytime while the kids are
at
school anyway?

Well in the case of CBeebies, a lot of the programming is aimed as pre
school children. My son thinks Balamorie is fantastic but is still at least
2 years off going to school :-)

PS

You really need to check out Tikkabilla next time you are off work sick.
Sarah Jane is cute :-)

uselesses wrote:
"Moldy" wrote in message
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No I ain`t )
What the bloody hell`s it doing on during the daytime while the kids are at
school anyway?
Pffft


what confuses me is the need for bbc to transmit 2 childrens broadcasts,
3 between 15.30 and 17.30, they should scrap one and make bbc 3 full time

what they'll show on bbc 3 in the extra time is another matter....

This is the idea behind the BBC's digital channels, there are
specialist channels and there are generalist channels. BBC1 and BBC2
will show general programmes from all genres, even when analogue is
switched off, and the others will show to specialist audiences.
Therefore there will always be overlap, CBBC on BBC1 and CBBC, News on
BBC1 and News24, Documentaries on BBC2 and BBC4, comedy on BBC2 and
BBC3.
The aim is that the generalist channels lead to the specialist and
vice versa.

And besides it means that while the kiddiewinkles are watching BBC 1, I can
go and watch repeats of the Basil Brush Show on CBBC everyday at 4.30pm!

Fantastic.......

Between 9am and 1pm the CBBC Channel shows schools programmes during term
time, but you wouldn't have checked that out before your rant. However
if
you would like a valid argument, you could ask why there are a dozen other
kids channels on air with cartoons.



Aw c`mon rant is a bit harsh )
These channels are probably a godsend for Parents but I ain`t got no use for
em!
I`m sure there`s been times when I`ve turned on the TV and theres been
childrens programmes on all 4 BBC channels!