8 Day EPG Test in London TV region

The following news appeared today at:-

http://www.dtg.org.uk/news/uknews/-f...epg_london.htm

Quote:-

From 2.00pm next Wednesday (5 May) the current trial of 8-day information in Wales
will be extended to London's Crystal Palace transmitter
- and its relays at Guildford, Hemel Hempstead and Reigate.

SI has been extended on a trial basis in Wales for some time now, initially offering a 4-day
schedule which was latterly extended to 8 days.
A statement from the BBC's Strategy & Distribution Team says:
"The broadcasters felt that a larger target trial audience was required to provide added
confidence in the service before considering full national roll-out. Despite the obvious
differences in geography and audience size, providing the extended service in London
is technically very similar to doing so in Wales. This means that the technical risk is
minimised whilst achieving a significant gain in audience size. There are also significant
benefits to providing London coverage, as many broadcasters, manufacturers and
industry bodies will be able to experience an extended schedule service for the first time."

For operational reasons, during the trial the extended SI will only be transmitted in the
BBC, Crown Castle and D3 and D4 muxes:
SDN won't carry the extended SI during the trial period.

There is also a caveat about which receivers can display the data as so many
were developed before the current profile was decided.
The BBC brief says that the following receivers will attempt to decode the schedule information:

Humax F2 Fox 1 STB
Humax 8000 PVR (full product details not specified)
Pace PVR
Pace DTVA
Sony VTX D800U
Sony iDTVs (integrated digital TV sets)
"However, once extended SI is available ongoing, [the broadcasters] would
hope that more manufacturers make their boxes capable of
displaying extended SI - either through over-air software
upgrades or by marketing new 'schedule-ready' receivers."

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:24:26 +0100, "Mark Carver"
wrote:

From 2.00pm next Wednesday (5 May) the current trial of 8-day information in Wales
will be extended to London's Crystal Palace transmitter
- and its relays at Guildford, Hemel Hempstead and Reigate.

Woohoo! Great news, hopefully most of the pain of setting my PVR8000T
will disappear.

Now if they could just arrange it so TV programmes would actually
start and end when they are supposed to...
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On 30-Apr-2004, Andrew [email protected] wrote:

Now if they could just arrange it so TV programmes would actually
start and end when they are supposed to...

Or get the "now and next" to change at the moment the programme actually
finishes. Then get the box software to start/finish the recording when
the "now and next" changes. A sort of PDC. Or is that to simple in this
technical age?

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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:03:58 GMT, "Malcolm (itsonlyme)"
] wrote:


On 30-Apr-2004, Andrew [email protected] wrote:

Now if they could just arrange it so TV programmes would actually
start and end when they are supposed to...

Or get the "now and next" to change at the moment the programme actually
finishes.

Or actually get now and next to show current information.

Then get the box software to start/finish the recording when
the "now and next" changes. A sort of PDC. Or is that to simple in this
technical age?

"Malcolm (itsonlyme)" ] wrote in message
...

On 30-Apr-2004, Andrew [email protected] wrote:

Now if they could just arrange it so TV programmes would actually
start and end when they are supposed to...

Or get the "now and next" to change at the moment the programme actually
finishes. Then get the box software to start/finish the recording when
the "now and next" changes. A sort of PDC. Or is that to simple in this
technical age?

That already happens to a degree, the EIT should perform the task of PDC of
yesteryear. You should find that "now" doesn't become current until that
programme is about to start, opposed to simply being triggered by time. i.e.
A programme labelled 21:00 could still be "next" at 21:01 and not trigger
until 21:02, on the Beeb at least.

The consequence of this is the inevitable over-run at the end of each show,
but I think that can also be triggered separately.

Az.

"Mark Carver" wrote in message ...
The following news appeared today at:-

http://www.dtg.org.uk/news/uknews/-f...epg_london.htm

Quote:-

From 2.00pm next Wednesday (5 May) the current trial of 8-day information in Wales
will be extended to London's Crystal Palace transmitter
- and its relays at Guildford, Hemel Hempstead and Reigate.

snip
I wonder how long the rest of the country will be waiting, next trial
Sutton Coldfield transmitter please!

Ed wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ...

The following news appeared today at:-

http://www.dtg.org.uk/news/uknews/-f...epg_london.htm

Quote:-

From 2.00pm next Wednesday (5 May) the current trial of 8-day information in Wales
will be extended to London's Crystal Palace transmitter
- and its relays at Guildford, Hemel Hempstead and Reigate.


snip
I wonder how long the rest of the country will be waiting, next trial
Sutton Coldfield transmitter please!
Assuming all goes well...;-)
There won't be any more trials. There will be a rollout to the rest of
the country. I believe the speed will be determined by how fast BT can
upgrade thier circuits carrying the EIT schedule.
Andy.

Andy Dee wrote in message ...
Ed wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message ...

I wonder how long the rest of the country will be waiting, next trial
Sutton Coldfield transmitter please!
Assuming all goes well...;-)
There won't be any more trials. There will be a rollout to the rest of
the country. I believe the speed will be determined by how fast BT can
upgrade thier circuits carrying the EIT schedule.
Andy.

So hopefully everything will work well on Wednesday! It should be the
kind of test where if it does not go haywire in the first week, then
you can presume that everything is okay. Hopefully the rest of the
country will get the new EPG by the end of June? They have had months
to get it right. I am just waiting to be able to program my PVR using
the 7 day EPG, now that will be good. Saying that I will still have
to adjust every recording to give a bit of extra space for late
finishes.

.. Saying that I will still have
to adjust every recording to give a bit of extra space for late
finishes.

There is an option in disk settings somewhere to add x minutes to the end
each recording, I assume this should still work with the epg.

Mike

On Mon, 3 May 2004 00:32:29 +0100, "Spock"
wrote:

There is an option in disk settings somewhere to add x minutes to the end
each recording, I assume this should still work with the epg.

Which PVR are you talking about?
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