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Old August 12th 03, 05:33 PM
MoJo
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Default anarmorphic widescreen DVD questions.

I recently bought a 42" Widescreen Toshiba and I tried playing a
"anarmorphic widescreen" DVD on it. I thought that this DVD should
playback on the full screen without the need for strecthing it, but it
does not. I am using regular component cables (yellow red white) and
connecting it via the composite inputs. Do I need to get the composite
cables in order to view the "widescreen DVD's"? I have a Pioneer prog.
scan DVD player. What I am doing wrong?
Pls help.

Thanks.
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Old August 12th 03, 06:31 PM
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"MoJo" wrote in message
om...
I recently bought a 42" Widescreen Toshiba and I tried playing a
"anarmorphic widescreen" DVD on it. I thought that this DVD should
playback on the full screen without the need for strecthing it, but it
does not. I am using regular component cables (yellow red white) and
connecting it via the composite inputs. Do I need to get the composite
cables in order to view the "widescreen DVD's"? I have a Pioneer prog.
scan DVD player. What I am doing wrong?
Pls help.


Select 16:9 TV in the DVD player setup. When watching DVDs marked
"anamorphic" or "enhanced for widescreen TVs", use full mode on the TV. The
picture is stored in a compressed format and needs to be "stretched". For
nonanamorphic DVDs use Theatrewide 2 on the TV. Widescreen DVDs should fill
the frame side to side. Top and bottom bars will appear on DVDs with aspect
ratios greater than 1.78:1. 2.35 ratios are typical in modern movies and
will have top and bottom bars. Very old movies and TV shows will typically
have a 1.33:1 aspect ratio and have side bars. Bottom line is that if people
have a normal look rather than a fun house mirror distortion and there
aren't black bars on all 4 sides, you're OK. Your DVD player may have
different settings for how 1.33:1 or 4:3 material is presented that can
eliminate the need for using TW2 on nonanamorphic DVDs. That setting would
need to be changed for watching 4:3 material in its native state. Check your
player's manual.

Component cables and connectors are red, green, blue and give the best
picture and progressive capability. All three are video cables.

Composite cables and connectors are yellow and provide a lower quality
picture. The red and white connectors and cables are for sound only and are
used in addition to the video cables.

Pat


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Old August 12th 03, 06:46 PM
STEVEN STEIN
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also check the DVD player and make sure the menu system has it set up for
16x9 output.

"Klaus" wrote in message
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Are there black bars on the top and bottom after you put the Toshiba into
full mode? If so I believe you are viewing a movie that is even wider

then
your screen....... Such as 2.35:1. Remember, your set is 16:9 and if a
movie or show is shot at 16:9 you will not need to stretch it. If it's
wider then that and many are you will still have small bars....



"MoJo" wrote in message
om...
I recently bought a 42" Widescreen Toshiba and I tried playing a
"anarmorphic widescreen" DVD on it. I thought that this DVD should
playback on the full screen without the need for strecthing it, but it
does not. I am using regular component cables (yellow red white) and
connecting it via the composite inputs. Do I need to get the composite
cables in order to view the "widescreen DVD's"? I have a Pioneer prog.
scan DVD player. What I am doing wrong?
Pls help.

Thanks.





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Old August 12th 03, 10:35 PM
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"MoJo" wrote in message
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I recently bought a 42" Widescreen Toshiba and I tried playing a
"anarmorphic widescreen" DVD on it. I thought that this DVD should
playback on the full screen without the need for strecthing it, but it
does not. I am using regular component cables (yellow red white) and
connecting it via the composite inputs. Do I need to get the composite
cables in order to view the "widescreen DVD's"? I have a Pioneer prog.
scan DVD player. What I am doing wrong?
Pls help.

Thanks.


You may be mixing up your "component" and "composite". The red, yellow,
white are composite video. You must use the component video connections for
progressive scan.


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Old August 13th 03, 03:55 PM
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"MoJo" wrote in message
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I am currently using my old component cables with the composite output
of the DVD ... I know I need to buy composite cables but they're
pretty expensive. I saw some real inexpensive ones on Ebay. Is it
worth getting one of these or are these cables going to be a whistle?


You still have it backwards. You are currently using your old *composite*
video cable, and need to buy *component* cables. They need not be
expensive -- as long as they're decently made, there is no difference
despite what Monster Cable's marketing says. I use component cables from
Radio Shack. They're heavy with gold connectors and work great, and am sure
there are many others as well.
Rob


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Old August 13th 03, 04:41 PM
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Me too (Tosh 42" 16x9), and I got a very good answer on this newsgroup.
Assuming you have everything else set up correctly (DVD player set to 16x9,
etc), chosen the 16x9 display mode of the movie itself (assuming it gives
you the choice and is not just one aspect ratio)

16x9 is an aspect ratio of 1.77:1. That is what any 16x9 TV is, by design.
(16/9=1.77) (duh!)

Any DVD you get that has an aspect ratio of 1.77 will show bars top and
bottom, if displayed in "Full" mode on the Toshiba. The bars are nearly
completely gone in 1.85:1 DVDs, while 2.35:1 DVDs have pretty pronounced
barring.

This is "normal" and there is nothing you can do about it, except use one of
the Theater Wide modes, whichever one you find most pleasing. You can, of
course, recognize that nothing is wrong and watch the movie in its intended
aspect ratio and accept the bars.

BTW, I'm VERY happy with the Toshiba 42H83 16x9 TV. It works very nicely
with my RCA DTC-100 Sat and OTA receiver, when using the Audio Authority
converter to change the RGB output of the DTC-100 to Component. Works just
as one would hope. It also works nicely with the cheap JVC DVD player I got
(progressive scan). It's hard to believe you can get a decent progressive
scan DVD player for a hundred bucks or less, and also have the ability to
play MP3, view JPEG, and WMA from burned CDs.


(and thanks again, to those who explained this to me about a week ago!)

....hasan

"MoJo" wrote in message
om...
I recently bought a 42" Widescreen Toshiba and I tried playing a
"anarmorphic widescreen" DVD on it. I thought that this DVD should
playback on the full screen without the need for strecthing it, but it
does not. I am using regular component cables (yellow red white) and
connecting it via the composite inputs. Do I need to get the composite
cables in order to view the "widescreen DVD's"? I have a Pioneer prog.
scan DVD player. What I am doing wrong?
Pls help.

Thanks.



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Old August 13th 03, 08:14 PM
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"Richard C." wrote in message om...
"MoJo" wrote in message
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:
: Thank you all very much! I went home and I realized that the DVD had
: to be setup to output to a 16:9 screen. I used to view this on my old
: letter box TV and I had forgotten to switch it to the widescreen
: output. Now when I watch a "widescreen enhanced" DVD in FULL mode, it
: fills the screen

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Something is STILL wrong, then.
2.35:1 movies should NEVER fill your screen.


===========================

I dont understand... when the DVD says "Anarmorphic Widescreen" or
"Enhanced for Widescreen"...I thought it should fill out my widescreen
TV! If it should fill the screen in FULL mode, then how should it
look!

- confused -
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Old August 13th 03, 10:24 PM
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"MoJo" wrote in message
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"Richard C." wrote in message

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"MoJo" wrote in message
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:
: Thank you all very much! I went home and I realized that the DVD had
: to be setup to output to a 16:9 screen. I used to view this on my old
: letter box TV and I had forgotten to switch it to the widescreen
: output. Now when I watch a "widescreen enhanced" DVD in FULL mode, it
: fills the screen

==========================
Something is STILL wrong, then.
2.35:1 movies should NEVER fill your screen.


===========================

I dont understand... when the DVD says "Anarmorphic Widescreen" or
"Enhanced for Widescreen"...I thought it should fill out my widescreen
TV! If it should fill the screen in FULL mode, then how should it
look!


What the poster meant to say is that a 2:35:1 movie or any movie wider than
1:77:1 will have some letterboxing when properly displayed. You won't notice it
on 1:85:1 movies since the miniscule amount of letterboxing will be lost due to
overscan on most sets. On wider movies you will properly have letterbox black
bars on the top and the bottom with the picture fully extending to the sides of
your 16:9 television. This is normal.


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Old August 13th 03, 10:49 PM
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Anamorphic widescreen - is compressed and needs to be stretched by your TV
to fill the screen - use the full mode. It may not fully fit your screen -
if it's super widescreen such as 2.35:1 you will get slim bars at the top
and bottom. Check the back of the DVD for what aspect ratio the film is. If
it's 1.85:1 the movie should completely fill your screen.






"MoJo" wrote in message
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"MoJo" wrote in message
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:
: Thank you all very much! I went home and I realized that the DVD had
: to be setup to output to a 16:9 screen. I used to view this on my old
: letter box TV and I had forgotten to switch it to the widescreen
: output. Now when I watch a "widescreen enhanced" DVD in FULL mode, it
: fills the screen

==========================
Something is STILL wrong, then.
2.35:1 movies should NEVER fill your screen.


===========================

I dont understand... when the DVD says "Anarmorphic Widescreen" or
"Enhanced for Widescreen"...I thought it should fill out my widescreen
TV! If it should fill the screen in FULL mode, then how should it
look!

- confused -





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Old August 14th 03, 03:18 AM
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"MoJo" wrote in message
om...
: "Richard C." wrote in message
om...
: "MoJo" wrote in message
: om...
: :
: : Thank you all very much! I went home and I realized that the DVD had
: : to be setup to output to a 16:9 screen. I used to view this on my old
: : letter box TV and I had forgotten to switch it to the widescreen
: : output. Now when I watch a "widescreen enhanced" DVD in FULL mode, it
: : fills the screen
:
: ==========================
: Something is STILL wrong, then.
: 2.35:1 movies should NEVER fill your screen.
:
: ===========================
:
: I dont understand... when the DVD says "Anarmorphic Widescreen" or
: "Enhanced for Widescreen"...I thought it should fill out my widescreen
: TV! If it should fill the screen in FULL mode, then how should it
: look!
:
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Anamorphic DVDs (enhanced for widescreen) merely present the DVD so that it can take
full advantage of the resolution of a 16:9 TV. The Aspect Ratio should NOT be
changed. A 2.35:1 anamorphic DVD should have bars at the top and bottom on a 16:9
set.
The bars should take up about 12% of the screen at the top and 12% at the bottom.

1.85:1 should APPEAR to fill your 16:9 screen. 1.33:1 movies should have bars at the
sides.
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