Pace twin hard disc and PC hard discs?

Godspeed Ian


"Ian Clowes" wrote in message ...
Mike wrote:

Hi Ian,

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS

Hi

Broadly, yes. I'm actually now writing the code on Windows and Linux at
the same time now, although this is working with a disk image captured
unde Linux rather than the mounted disk.

The main hurdle I have to cross is adding some per OS code to access the
HDD at a low enough level. This is trivial in Linux, and shouldn't be a
major problem once I come to do it on Windows, although the two Windows
flavours (Win 9X and NT) do differ in how they do this. Once I have the
processing of the data working under both I'll add this final Windows
disk access part.


and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage.

Initially it'll probably be a command line app, although I'd expect to
do a VB app or something that could call out to this and hence provide a
GUI interface of sorts. I might factor the code into DLLs so I can make
it a little more integrated.


I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.

I'm doing it more for fun. I hadn't really thought about distributuon.
You can probably expect early releases at least to be free. Feel free
to buy me a pint when I'm passing though...

Cheers
IanC



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Wouldn't be great if the Pace had USB2 or firewire. Or a removable IDE caddy for the HD.
rs232 port just doesn't cut it.

"Mike" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:07:17 +0000, Ian Clowes
wrote:

Ricky wrote:
Hi there,

Does anybody know if you can remove the hard disc on the Pace Twin and
install it into a PC and transfer recorded programmes onto the PC hard
disc (and from there to DVD-R or VCD) in a watchable and editable
format?


Hi

I can just about do this under Linux now, and nearly do it under
Windows. Search Google for more info. I'm not aware of anyone else
working on the same problem at present.

Cheers
IanC



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Hi Ian,

I recently found your threads on this and the dvb newsgroup and read
them with great interest.

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage. I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.

Cheers

Mike

Wouldn't be great if the Pace had USB2 or firewire. Or a removable IDE caddy for the HD.
rs232 port just doesn't cut it.

"Mike" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:07:17 +0000, Ian Clowes
wrote:

Ricky wrote:
Hi there,

Does anybody know if you can remove the hard disc on the Pace Twin and
install it into a PC and transfer recorded programmes onto the PC hard
disc (and from there to DVD-R or VCD) in a watchable and editable
format?


Hi

I can just about do this under Linux now, and nearly do it under
Windows. Search Google for more info. I'm not aware of anyone else
working on the same problem at present.

Cheers
IanC



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Hi Ian,

I recently found your threads on this and the dvb newsgroup and read
them with great interest.

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage. I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.

Cheers

Mike

Ritchie Logan wrote in
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:02:13 -0800, Ricky wrote:

Of course, what I really want is a DTT box with a hard disc recorder
and a DVD recorder built in... Are there any on the horizon?

I'd prefer a DTT with HDD and ethernet port to allow me to rip the file
over to a PC for editing and mastering onto DVD.

Even better a PCMCIA or USB port so you can add either wired or wireless.

Ritchie Logan wrote in
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:02:13 -0800, Ricky wrote:

Of course, what I really want is a DTT box with a hard disc recorder
and a DVD recorder built in... Are there any on the horizon?

I'd prefer a DTT with HDD and ethernet port to allow me to rip the file
over to a PC for editing and mastering onto DVD.

Even better a PCMCIA or USB port so you can add either wired or wireless.

"Steve" wrote in message
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Ritchie Logan wrote in
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:02:13 -0800, Ricky wrote:

Of course, what I really want is a DTT box with a hard disc recorder
and a DVD recorder built in... Are there any on the horizon?

I'd prefer a DTT with HDD and ethernet port to allow me to rip the file
over to a PC for editing and mastering onto DVD.

Even better a PCMCIA or USB port so you can add either wired or wireless.


Wouldn't it be far simpler to just connect a freeview device to the PC?

say a Hauppauge Dec200t, or one of the Nubula cards?

You could then record to Hard Disc, edit at will, then cut to DVD....


John

"Steve" wrote in message
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Ritchie Logan wrote in
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:02:13 -0800, Ricky wrote:

Of course, what I really want is a DTT box with a hard disc recorder
and a DVD recorder built in... Are there any on the horizon?

I'd prefer a DTT with HDD and ethernet port to allow me to rip the file
over to a PC for editing and mastering onto DVD.

Even better a PCMCIA or USB port so you can add either wired or wireless.


Wouldn't it be far simpler to just connect a freeview device to the PC?

say a Hauppauge Dec200t, or one of the Nubula cards?

You could then record to Hard Disc, edit at will, then cut to DVD....


John

"John Beeston" wrote in
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"Steve" wrote in message
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Ritchie Logan wrote in
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:02:13 -0800, Ricky wrote:

Of course, what I really want is a DTT box with a hard disc
recorder and a DVD recorder built in... Are there any on the
horizon?

I'd prefer a DTT with HDD and ethernet port to allow me to rip the
file over to a PC for editing and mastering onto DVD.

Even better a PCMCIA or USB port so you can add either wired or
wireless.


Wouldn't it be far simpler to just connect a freeview device to the
PC?

It need not be complex though. We are talking an *ideal* HDD DTT PVR, it
would therefore have a plug and play interface with a simple means of
extracting the files (i.e. an SMB share or HTTP/FTP server). Just grab the
file and process.


say a Hauppauge Dec200t, or one of the Nubula cards?

You could then record to Hard Disc, edit at will, then cut to DVD....

But then you loose the ability to record and watch in your living room,
unless you move the PC there and keep it on all the time. This may not be
convenient and you have to get a second PC.

"John Beeston" wrote in
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"Steve" wrote in message
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Ritchie Logan wrote in
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:02:13 -0800, Ricky wrote:

Of course, what I really want is a DTT box with a hard disc
recorder and a DVD recorder built in... Are there any on the
horizon?

I'd prefer a DTT with HDD and ethernet port to allow me to rip the
file over to a PC for editing and mastering onto DVD.

Even better a PCMCIA or USB port so you can add either wired or
wireless.


Wouldn't it be far simpler to just connect a freeview device to the
PC?

It need not be complex though. We are talking an *ideal* HDD DTT PVR, it
would therefore have a plug and play interface with a simple means of
extracting the files (i.e. an SMB share or HTTP/FTP server). Just grab the
file and process.


say a Hauppauge Dec200t, or one of the Nubula cards?

You could then record to Hard Disc, edit at will, then cut to DVD....

But then you loose the ability to record and watch in your living room,
unless you move the PC there and keep it on all the time. This may not be
convenient and you have to get a second PC.

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Wouldn't it be far simpler to just connect a freeview device to the
PC?

It need not be complex though. We are talking an *ideal* HDD DTT PVR, it
would therefore have a plug and play interface with a simple means of
extracting the files (i.e. an SMB share or HTTP/FTP server). Just grab the
file and process.


say a Hauppauge Dec200t, or one of the Nubula cards?

You could then record to Hard Disc, edit at will, then cut to DVD....

But then you loose the ability to record and watch in your living room,
unless you move the PC there and keep it on all the time. This may not be
convenient and you have to get a second PC.


Or you could take a view which says that investing in task specific devices
for the living room, which are too complex for anyone above the age of 10,
and are out of date the minute you buy them, is poor economics..

Far better that you have the complete flexibility of a PC in the living room
giving communal /family access to the net / email / TV / DVD / MP3 / games
etc etc, and network it (via wireless) to others (elsewhere) for private
use.

May be a slight issue with configuration control... but what's new.

John