Freeview Boss Quits

.... and is in talks to join the planned pay-TV service on Freeview:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...140103,00.html


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Steve - http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/

DAB sounds worse than Freeview, digital satellite, cable, broadband internet and FM

In article ,
(Steve) writes:
... and is in talks to join the planned pay-TV service on Freeview:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...140103,00.html

K3W1, isn't it. They persuaded us all to buy the Freeview boxes, and now they
propose to try to persuade us to buy yet another set-top box to do Top-Up TV.
I, for one, am not about to fall for that one. Apart from anything else,
there's bugger-all space for any more SCART cables underneath and behind my
TVs...

One would have thought that making the Freeview boxes in such a way as to
allow for pay services to be piggybacked would have been a better move, if
there was ever going to be a notion to do it.
--
SAm.

In article ,
(Steve) writes:
... and is in talks to join the planned pay-TV service on Freeview:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...140103,00.html

K3W1, isn't it. They persuaded us all to buy the Freeview boxes, and now they
propose to try to persuade us to buy yet another set-top box to do Top-Up TV.
I, for one, am not about to fall for that one. Apart from anything else,
there's bugger-all space for any more SCART cables underneath and behind my
TVs...

One would have thought that making the Freeview boxes in such a way as to
allow for pay services to be piggybacked would have been a better move, if
there was ever going to be a notion to do it.
--
SAm.

"HI, I'm Sam Nelson. You may remember me from postings such as...
In article ,
(Steve) writes:
... and is in talks to join the planned pay-TV service on Freeview:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...140103,00.html

K3W1, isn't it. They persuaded us all to buy the Freeview boxes, and
now they propose to try to persuade us to buy yet another set-top box
to do Top-Up TV. I, for one, am not about to fall for that one.
Apart from anything else, there's bugger-all space for any more SCART
cables underneath and behind my TVs...

One would have thought that making the Freeview boxes in such a way
as to allow for pay services to be piggybacked would have been a
better move, if there was ever going to be a notion to do it.

its all the fault of some manufacturers trying to get as cheap as possible
boxes out without looking to the future that pay could happen and
cards/encryption are a standard feature of the dvb broadcast system. my
first freeview box (pace dtva) has a card slot at bottom so is comparible,
and my curent pace twin has a slot at the front, i wouldnt of bought one
without as in my mind pay tv was always going to come back (although i
thought more likely with the analog switch off)

"HI, I'm Sam Nelson. You may remember me from postings such as...
In article ,
(Steve) writes:
... and is in talks to join the planned pay-TV service on Freeview:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...140103,00.html

K3W1, isn't it. They persuaded us all to buy the Freeview boxes, and
now they propose to try to persuade us to buy yet another set-top box
to do Top-Up TV. I, for one, am not about to fall for that one.
Apart from anything else, there's bugger-all space for any more SCART
cables underneath and behind my TVs...

One would have thought that making the Freeview boxes in such a way
as to allow for pay services to be piggybacked would have been a
better move, if there was ever going to be a notion to do it.

its all the fault of some manufacturers trying to get as cheap as possible
boxes out without looking to the future that pay could happen and
cards/encryption are a standard feature of the dvb broadcast system. my
first freeview box (pace dtva) has a card slot at bottom so is comparible,
and my curent pace twin has a slot at the front, i wouldnt of bought one
without as in my mind pay tv was always going to come back (although i
thought more likely with the analog switch off)

Sam Nelson wrote:
In article ,
(Steve) writes:
... and is in talks to join the planned pay-TV service on Freeview:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...140103,00.html

K3W1, isn't it.


Eh?


They persuaded us all to buy the Freeview boxes, and
now they propose to try to persuade us to buy yet another set-top box
to do Top-Up TV. I, for one, am not about to fall for that one.


It depends what you want; if you're happy with Freeview as it is then
you won't be affected AFAIK, but for those that would like some decent
extra channels I think it's a good idea when it's only about £2 per
week.


Apart from anything else, there's bugger-all space for any more SCART
cables underneath and behind my TVs...


You could just sell your existing Freeview box.


--
Steve - http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/ - Digital Radio News & Info

DAB sounds worse than Freeview, digital satellite, cable, broadband
internet and FM

Sam Nelson wrote:
In article ,
(Steve) writes:
... and is in talks to join the planned pay-TV service on Freeview:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...140103,00.html

K3W1, isn't it.


Eh?


They persuaded us all to buy the Freeview boxes, and
now they propose to try to persuade us to buy yet another set-top box
to do Top-Up TV. I, for one, am not about to fall for that one.


It depends what you want; if you're happy with Freeview as it is then
you won't be affected AFAIK, but for those that would like some decent
extra channels I think it's a good idea when it's only about £2 per
week.


Apart from anything else, there's bugger-all space for any more SCART
cables underneath and behind my TVs...


You could just sell your existing Freeview box.


--
Steve - http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/ - Digital Radio News & Info

DAB sounds worse than Freeview, digital satellite, cable, broadband
internet and FM

ChrisM wrote:
"HI, I'm Sam Nelson. You may remember me from postings such as...
In article ,
(Steve) writes:
... and is in talks to join the planned pay-TV service on Freeview:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...140103,00.html

K3W1, isn't it. They persuaded us all to buy the Freeview boxes, and
now they propose to try to persuade us to buy yet another set-top box
to do Top-Up TV. I, for one, am not about to fall for that one.
Apart from anything else, there's bugger-all space for any more SCART
cables underneath and behind my TVs...

One would have thought that making the Freeview boxes in such a way
as to allow for pay services to be piggybacked would have been a
better move, if there was ever going to be a notion to do it.

its all the fault of some manufacturers trying to get as cheap as
possible boxes out without looking to the future that pay could
happen and cards/encryption are a standard feature of the dvb
broadcast system.


I agree. It's like DAB receivers are virtually all Band III-only, but in
2007 there'll be DAB transmissions on L-band as well which will require
everybody that wants L-band reception to go out and buy another DAB
receiver. I'd love to know the percentage of people that knew that their
DAB radio will be partially-obsolete in just 3 years' time.


my first freeview box (pace dtva) has a card slot
at bottom so is comparible, and my curent pace twin has a slot at the
front, i wouldnt of bought one without as in my mind pay tv was
always going to come back (although i thought more likely with the
analog switch off)


I've got a Nokia 9850T refurb with a card slot, and a Pioneer DBRTF100
without, so I think I'd get another box if it happens...


--
Steve - http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/ - Digital Radio News & Info

DAB sounds worse than Freeview, digital satellite, cable, broadband
internet and FM

ChrisM wrote:
"HI, I'm Sam Nelson. You may remember me from postings such as...
In article ,
(Steve) writes:
... and is in talks to join the planned pay-TV service on Freeview:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...140103,00.html

K3W1, isn't it. They persuaded us all to buy the Freeview boxes, and
now they propose to try to persuade us to buy yet another set-top box
to do Top-Up TV. I, for one, am not about to fall for that one.
Apart from anything else, there's bugger-all space for any more SCART
cables underneath and behind my TVs...

One would have thought that making the Freeview boxes in such a way
as to allow for pay services to be piggybacked would have been a
better move, if there was ever going to be a notion to do it.

its all the fault of some manufacturers trying to get as cheap as
possible boxes out without looking to the future that pay could
happen and cards/encryption are a standard feature of the dvb
broadcast system.


I agree. It's like DAB receivers are virtually all Band III-only, but in
2007 there'll be DAB transmissions on L-band as well which will require
everybody that wants L-band reception to go out and buy another DAB
receiver. I'd love to know the percentage of people that knew that their
DAB radio will be partially-obsolete in just 3 years' time.


my first freeview box (pace dtva) has a card slot
at bottom so is comparible, and my curent pace twin has a slot at the
front, i wouldnt of bought one without as in my mind pay tv was
always going to come back (although i thought more likely with the
analog switch off)


I've got a Nokia 9850T refurb with a card slot, and a Pioneer DBRTF100
without, so I think I'd get another box if it happens...


--
Steve - http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/ - Digital Radio News & Info

DAB sounds worse than Freeview, digital satellite, cable, broadband
internet and FM

Orange wrote:
:
: As the old ITV-Digital encryption was apparently 'compromised', wouldn't
: they have to choose a completely different and much more secure system?

ITV Digital used SECA - which was totally compromised. SECA-2 is, however,
very closely related but, AFAIK, quite secure....but see below!

: "The biggest of these is the fact that, at present, only around 800,000
: Freeview viewers - who use the old ITV Digital boxes - have the necessary
: conditional access elements and card slots required to watch pay-TV."

ITV Digital were planning to move to SECA-2 before events caught up with
them ...BUT... there is curently no mechanism for updating the software in
the old STBs!! Presumably a move to SECA-2 would need such an update.