Sky to offer "Freeview RIVAL"

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:15:09 +0100, Chris
wrote:



"The package will include ITV, BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, CBBC, Cbeebies,
News 24, BBC Parliament, Channel 4, Channel Five, ITV2, ITV News, CNN
and scores of other channels, although most of these are of minority
interest such as Extreme Sports."


They seem to have fixed their mistake now, must be reading this group!

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:34:13 +0100, Chris
wrote:

BBC Now have an article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3790127.stm

It is amusing that the first thing you see is a picture of an ugly old
dish (not a minidish) stuck up very lazily on the front of a bay
window blocking the window and the caption "You'll need one of these
to pick up Sky's new package"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3790127.stm

Chris wrote:
BBC Radio 6 News 10.30am

"BSKYB to offer a "Free To Air" rival to the Freeview service with 200
Radio and TV channels for a one off £150 pounds"

I suspect someone has got the wrong end of the stick somewhere as I
doubt it will be Free To Air but will require some form of FTV card

I also suspect many of those 200 channels will be Radio and Shopping
channels

Chris

I also suspect it will offer exactly the same number of channels available to
FTV viewers at the moment. In other words, cleverly-worded hype.

Paul.

The official press release is he

http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir... em_id=580035

Given that Sky One is funded by advertising, why isn't it included, just
like ITV1 is?

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:24:48 +0100, "Nicholas F Hodder"
wrote:

The official press release is he

http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir... em_id=580035

Given that Sky One is funded by advertising, why isn't it included, just
like ITV1 is?


The Sky Value package wouldn't sell very well if SKY One was FTA/FTV

Also for the same reason E4 is a pay channel, they buy first run
rights of series which are then sold on to Terrestrial channels

"Chris" wrote in message
...

BBC Radio 6 News 10.30am

"BSKYB to offer a "Free To Air" rival to the Freeview service with 200
Radio and TV channels for a one off £150 pounds"

I suspect someone has got the wrong end of the stick somewhere as I
doubt it will be Free To Air but will require some form of FTV card

I also suspect many of those 200 channels will be Radio and Shopping
channels

Chris
It will be Free-to-view with a card supplied.
Regards Mike.



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The 150 was mentioned as the cost of buying and installing a dish and
tuner.

They've done this in the past, in the good old days of analogue. Loads of
stuff was unencrypted and then they introduced encryption and
subscription.


"Chris" wrote in message
...

BBC Radio 6 News 10.30am

"BSKYB to offer a "Free To Air" rival to the Freeview service with 200
Radio and TV channels for a one off £150 pounds"

I suspect someone has got the wrong end of the stick somewhere as I
doubt it will be Free To Air but will require some form of FTV card

I also suspect many of those 200 channels will be Radio and Shopping
channels

Chris

Chris wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 12:01:49 +0100, "Mark Carver"
wrote:


Chris wrote:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...234697,00.html

Only channel mentioned which isn't already FTA (CNN, BBC, ITV News) or
FTV (ITV1, ch4, five) is ITV2

I can't see ITV-2 mentioned, only ITV-1 (FTV) and ITV News (FTA)




I quote :-

"The package will include ITV, BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, CBBC, Cbeebies,
News 24, BBC Parliament, Channel 4, Channel Five, ITV2, ITV News, CNN
and scores of other channels, although most of these are of minority
interest such as Extreme Sports."

Although there is nothing in the Sky press release about ITV2 so I
suspect it is a Guardian mistake


Why do think that it's a Guardian mistake to leave-out ITV2? All that
$ky are offering is what we FTV-type card holders can get now. If they
were going to mirror Freeview, then channels like FTN & UK History
should be up for grabs too, but they aren't, at least according to the
Guardian article. Personally, I'm disappointed. I had hoped that $ky
would offer something more, possibly with some sort of $sky+/freeview
deal at some point to follow. 200 or channels there may be, but once you
subtract the radio channels, the BBC channels, ITV1, C4 & C5 the rest is
pretty much crap.

No thanks $ky. Try a bit harder.


Clem

Chris wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 12:15:00 +0100, "mick"
wrote:



Chris wrote:

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 12:01:49 +0100, "Mark Carver"
wrote:


Chris wrote:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...234697,00.html

Only channel mentioned which isn't already FTA (CNN, BBC, ITV News) or
FTV (ITV1, ch4, five) is ITV2

I can't see ITV-2 mentioned, only ITV-1 (FTV) and ITV News (FTA)



I quote :-

"The package will include ITV, BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, CBBC, Cbeebies,
News 24, BBC Parliament, Channel 4, Channel Five, ITV2, ITV News, CNN
and scores of other channels, although most of these are of minority
interest such as Extreme Sports."

It actually says -

The package will include ITV, BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, CBBC, CBeebies, News
24, BBC Parliament, Channel 4, Channel Five, ITV News, CNN and scores of
other channels, although most of these are of minority interest such as
Extreme Sports

mick



Well they must have updated it after reading my Post then !

I have the page opened on my web browser where it def says

"The package will include ITV, BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, CBBC, Cbeebies,
News 24, BBC Parliament, Channel 4, Channel Five, ITV2, ITV News, CNN
and scores of other channels, although most of these are of minority
interest such as Extreme Sports."


Your browser must do some sort of wishful thinking then! I've just
re-checked the URL & ITV2 is conspicuous by its absence ....


Clem

Chris wrote:

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 12:01:49 +0100, "Mark Carver"
wrote:


Chris wrote:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...234697,00.html

Only channel mentioned which isn't already FTA (CNN, BBC, ITV News) or
FTV (ITV1, ch4, five) is ITV2

I can't see ITV-2 mentioned, only ITV-1 (FTV) and ITV News (FTA)




I quote :-

"The package will include ITV, BBC1, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, CBBC, Cbeebies,
News 24, BBC Parliament, Channel 4, Channel Five, ITV2, ITV News, CNN
and scores of other channels, although most of these are of minority
interest such as Extreme Sports."

Does "minority interest" translate as "cheap **** so we can claim to
have scores of channels"?