Sky+, so advanced yet...

....annoyingly as primitive as a video recorder,

I hope I understand this correctly and am not making fool of myself, but...

I think it's a marvellous feature that a sky + box can receive a message via
satellite that tells it if programs are running late and then it alters
recording times to allow for this.

I then can't understand why it is necessary to allow 1, 3, 5 or 10? minutes
at the start and end of each recording to allow for slight discrepancies in
program timings.

If a sky+ box can do the what it says in the first part of my message then
why can't it start and stop recording exactly when a programs begins and
ends? It just makes no sense to me! An extra 10 minutes per each recording
is an extremely un-efficient use of the hdd.

Any opinions?

Regards,

Sonars_UK

I think it's the TV stations that can't be trusted to run things on time so
there has to be padding.

ITV have always had tremendous difficulty telling the time.



"Sonars UK" wrote in message
...
...annoyingly as primitive as a video recorder,

I hope I understand this correctly and am not making fool of myself,
but...

I think it's a marvellous feature that a sky + box can receive a message
via
satellite that tells it if programs are running late and then it alters
recording times to allow for this.

I then can't understand why it is necessary to allow 1, 3, 5 or 10?
minutes
at the start and end of each recording to allow for slight discrepancies
in
program timings.

If a sky+ box can do the what it says in the first part of my message then
why can't it start and stop recording exactly when a programs begins and
ends? It just makes no sense to me! An extra 10 minutes per each
recording
is an extremely un-efficient use of the hdd.

Any opinions?

Regards,

Sonars_UK

In article ,
Sonars UK wrote:
If a sky+ box can do the what it says in the first part of my message then
why can't it start and stop recording exactly when a programs begins and
ends?

Because knowing when a programme starts and ends relies on the broadcaster
of that programme keeping the data correct. And while some do, many don't.

Dave
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"David Marshall" wrote in message
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In article ,
Sonars UK wrote:
If a sky+ box can do the what it says in the first part of my message
then
why can't it start and stop recording exactly when a programs begins and
ends?

Because knowing when a programme starts and ends relies on the broadcaster
of that programme keeping the data correct. And while some do, many don't.

exactly. even when a program overruns the banner info has usually changed
to the next show.

"Sonars UK" wrote in message
...
...annoyingly as primitive as a video recorder,

I hope I understand this correctly and am not making fool of myself,
but...

I think it's a marvellous feature that a sky + box can receive a message
via
satellite that tells it if programs are running late and then it alters
recording times to allow for this.

I then can't understand why it is necessary to allow 1, 3, 5 or 10?
minutes
at the start and end of each recording to allow for slight discrepancies
in
program timings.

If a sky+ box can do the what it says in the first part of my message then
why can't it start and stop recording exactly when a programs begins and
ends? It just makes no sense to me! An extra 10 minutes per each
recording
is an extremely un-efficient use of the hdd.

Any opinions?

Think of all the space IF like a VCR it paused during AD breaks!

I've done this a few times with Sky+ (pressing the record button and
stopping recording on Ad breaks,Then press record again when the proggie
starts again)

Silly messages pop up unlike the good ol' VCR.

In article ,
Steeler wrote:
Because knowing when a programme starts and ends relies on the broadcaster
of that programme keeping the data correct. And while some do, many don't.
exactly. even when a program overruns the banner info has usually changed
to the next show.

Yes, and when a broadcaster does it, we need to complain bitterly directly
to them. I've found the BBC to be very responsive to my complaints when
they've cocked up.

Dave
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"Sonars UK" wrote in message
...
...annoyingly as primitive as a video recorder,

I hope I understand this correctly and am not making fool of myself,
but...

I think it's a marvellous feature that a sky + box can receive a message
via
satellite that tells it if programs are running late and then it alters
recording times to allow for this.

I then can't understand why it is necessary to allow 1, 3, 5 or 10?
minutes
at the start and end of each recording to allow for slight discrepancies
in
program timings.

Because the TV stations are incompetent bufoons that dont always adjust the
EPG and also sometimes start programmes at times other than in the EPG
anyway. Witness a recent thread here where one of the main channels admitted
they started a programme at 20:55 deliberatley (and scheduled it thus) but
put it in the EPG as starting at 21:00 because "20:55 was an unusual start
time and that might confuse people".

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"David Marshall" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Steeler wrote:
Because knowing when a programme starts and ends relies on the
broadcaster
of that programme keeping the data correct. And while some do, many
don't.
exactly. even when a program overruns the banner info has usually
changed
to the next show.

Yes, and when a broadcaster does it, we need to complain bitterly directly
to them. I've found the BBC to be very responsive to my complaints when
they've cocked up.

There should be no reason for them to cock up more than once in a blue moon.
In what way are they 'responsive'? Unless they have a time machine and can
go back and rebroadcast at the correct time, being responsive is
meaningless.

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In article ,
Tumbleweed wrote:
There should be no reason for them to cock up more than once in a blue moon.
In what way are they 'responsive'? Unless they have a time machine and can
go back and rebroadcast at the correct time, being responsive is
meaningless.

It seems the BBC's system is only partially automated. After having
chopped off the ending of the first two episodes of a series, they got the
remaining four right after I complained.

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Tumbleweed wrote:

Because the TV stations are incompetent bufoons that dont always
adjust the EPG and also sometimes start programmes at times other
than in the EPG anyway. Witness a recent thread here where one of the
main channels admitted they started a programme at 20:55 deliberatley
(and scheduled it thus) but put it in the EPG as starting at 21:00
because "20:55 was an unusual start time and that might confuse
people".

Indeed. Funny how millions of those same people manage to catch trains
that (should :-) ) leave at 'funny times', such as 07:53, 09:11, or 16:34.

If a programme is going to start at 20:57, then say so! Many European TV
stations publish their schedules in one minute increments, (and use the 24hr clock).