News Item - Hollywood in screen battle with BBC - satellite switch imperils viewers' choice of movies

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:40:56 +0000 (UTC), "NO LOGO"
wrote:

Canal+ dishes are not even at the same direction as 28.2.

And of course nobody has multi-feed or motorised dishes, especially
not in Europe...

"Ant" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:33:06 +0000 (UTC), "NO LOGO"
wrote:

OK: My initial thoughts.

Who owns Sky and the Twentieth Century Studios? Newscorp. This is
Newscorp
attempting to coerce the BBC back in to using CAM technology.

That story is about WARNER and UNIVERSAL as well as Fox.

The fact remains that movie and programme rights are sold by
territory. No broadcaster anywhere in the world is allowed to
broadcast programmes outside the area which they have paid for.

The BBC has unilaterally decided that this provision does not apply to
them, and now it is coming back to bite them. Well, goodness me.. is
there ANYONE who didn't see that coming?




Let them sue.

My primary concern is that the BBC does not over-bid on these rights. The
BBC, being the public-purse, should show some openness on the details of
these "public" contracts.

BSKYB is a private business. It can do what the hell it likes.

The BBC is a public body. I say with an obligation to all citizens and the
rights negotiations should be fully transparent publicly, after all they are
spending public money, extracted under the WTA Act 1949.

And if Warner Bros, Universal or Newscorp believe 2-golf-courses Dyke's BBC
are breaking any laws or contracts, I welcome seeing a full and public court
case either here in the UK or at the European Parliament.

Let justice prevail.

;-)

Ant wrote:
:: On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:33:06 +0000 (UTC), "NO LOGO"
:: wrote:
::
::: OK: My initial thoughts.
:::
::: Who owns Sky and the Twentieth Century Studios? Newscorp. This is
::: Newscorp attempting to coerce the BBC back in to using CAM
::: technology.
::
:: That story is about WARNER and UNIVERSAL as well as Fox.
::
:: The fact remains that movie and programme rights are sold by
:: territory. No broadcaster anywhere in the world is allowed to
:: broadcast programmes outside the area which they have paid for.
::
:: The BBC has unilaterally decided that this provision does not apply
:: to them, and now it is coming back to bite them. Well, goodness me..
:: is there ANYONE who didn't see that coming?


The BBC?

(Either that or they hoped that if they put their fingers in their ears and
sang loudly enough, it would all go away.)


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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:07:28 +0000 (UTC), "NO LOGO"
wrote:

And if Warner Bros, Universal or Newscorp believe 2-golf-courses Dyke's BBC
are breaking any laws or contracts, I welcome seeing a full and public court
case either here in the UK or at the European Parliament.

Sure, let's see it properly tested in law. The legal position is quite
clear.

"Mr BBC, did you sign a contract which purchases the rights only for
the UK? And by broadcasting in the clear are you not intentionally
making that material available outside the UK?"

Currently the BBC defence is "well, yes, but we're sure it's not a big
problem, it's nothing to worry about really."

Absolutely, let's see that tested in court. Let the pieces fall one
way or the other and get it over with.

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:59:11 +0000 (UTC), "NO LOGO"
wrote:

We the licence fee payers (or not as the case might be (allegedly)), are
paying for Mr 2-golf-courses Dyke to have a large penis extension fitted
prior to his retirement.

!

You realise that the BBC is never going to speak to you again, now..
:-)

"Ant" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:14:18 +0000 (UTC), "NO LOGO"
wrote:

And Sky has not failed to disable the thousands of Set Top Boxes that its
customers have illegally exported to Europe at least until now...

And NDS... have not allegedly weakened the CAMs of competitors...

And Canal+ does not supply "motorised" dishes in its specification...

And Sky / Newscorp / or its Digi-box closed-licencees have not
circumnavigated Article 82 of the Treaty of Rome:

Blimey. And you wonder why people don't take you seriously?



Swivel on it, Ant.

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:01:58 +0000 (UTC), "NO LOGO"
wrote:

Swivel on it, Ant.

You're spoiling me with these compliments. :-)

followup to (Ant):

The fact remains that movie and programme rights are sold by
territory.

Right. What about the European Union (of which GB is part)?
As US-companies, they are certainly not selling the rights to each of
the 51 states, are they?

Kind regards Frederick

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Walt Davidson writes:

As US-companies, they are certainly not selling the rights to each
of the 51 states, are they?

Which is the 51st state?

Maybe they're including Washington DC as a state (even though it's
neither in one nor is one)?

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"Geoff Rimmer" wrote in message
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Walt Davidson writes:

As US-companies, they are certainly not selling the rights to each
of the 51 states, are they?

Which is the 51st state?

Maybe they're including Washington DC as a state (even though it's
neither in one nor is one)?


Maybe he means Puerto Rico? Jefferson? Canada?