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Old August 7th 03, 11:23 AM
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In the Media Guardian today:

News Item - Hollywood in screen battle with BBC - satellite switch imperils
viewers' choice of movies

http://logofreetv.org/redirect.asp?i=2622


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Old August 7th 03, 11:33 AM
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In the Media Guardian today:

News Item - Hollywood in screen battle with BBC - satellite switch

imperils
viewers' choice of movies

http://logofreetv.org/redirect.asp?i=2622





OK: My initial thoughts.

Who owns Sky and the Twentieth Century Studios? Newscorp. This is Newscorp
attempting to coerce the BBC back in to using CAM technology.

I hope that:

- auntie is not over paying on rights fees, legal fees, other sundry
charges.
- it is probably in auntie's interests to hold firm and not buckle to the
Sky CAM monopoly.

Given how "****ed up" some of the BBC's decisions are, we could have the
situation where Harry Potter goes out on Christmas Day and available to Sky
customers free-of-charge only, in the same way that Channels 3, 4, and 5 are
available "FREE" to paying Sky customers, but not lower class TV-peasants.

Now we can see what Channels 4 and FIVE are so afraid of.



What we need is an open market where any channel can sell content without
the exthortion of one "bank". In the same way that the development of
"money" enabled civilisation, TV needs "a currency" to enable healthy and
valuable trade (beyond ****e like QVC, the Hits).

(http://licencefee.com/?mode=barry_cox_lectures see lecture 2)


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Old August 7th 03, 11:57 AM
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NO LOGO wrote:
Who owns Sky and the Twentieth Century Studios? Newscorp. This is Newscorp
attempting to coerce the BBC back in to using CAM technology.


Um, no. Warner Bros and Universal have also expressed concerns that the
BBC being FTA will affect their ability to sell rights in Europe.

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Old August 7th 03, 01:23 PM
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Who owns Sky and the Twentieth Century Studios? Newscorp. This is

Newscorp
attempting to coerce the BBC back in to using CAM technology.


Um, no. Warner Bros and Universal have also expressed concerns that the
BBC being FTA will affect their ability to sell rights in Europe.

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Have you got a quote on that please, Dave?




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Um, no. Warner Bros and Universal have also expressed concerns that the
BBC being FTA will affect their ability to sell rights in Europe.

Have you got a quote on that please, Dave?


http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...013819,00.html

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"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
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In article ,
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"David Marshall" wrote in message
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In article ,
NO LOGO wrote:
Um, no. Warner Bros and Universal have also expressed concerns that

the
BBC being FTA will affect their ability to sell rights in Europe.
Have you got a quote on that please, Dave?

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...013819,00.html

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No point continuing this, but what you say eludes me?


It says so in the second par of the sodding article. At least it does in

my
print version.




I don't see a statement or evidence from Warner Bros or Universal indicating
"how" the BBC's FTA transmission will "affect their ability to sell rights
in Europe".


I see standard commercial and legal "ranking" and negotiation tactics, but
nothing to indicate any significant commercial impact so far?

Of course the studios will object. Its a commercial tactic for milking more
money out of the BBC licence fee payers. Any business would do the same.


Or perhaps Warner Bros / Universal think that 250 Million people in Europe
are going to purchase 1.5 Metre dishes with conical LNBs, and enrol en-masse
in Language Direct's English courses....

;-)

Interesting programme on BBC TWO on Sunday night how Charles De Gaulle
Airport Controllers refuse to speak English - which has caused fatalities.

The French hate us. Always have. Always will (in a cordial brotherly sort of
way). The French are not going to abandon Francais just because some
techno-anorak with an oversize satellite dish can get BBC ONE for free.




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http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...013819,00.html
No point continuing this, but what you say eludes me?

It says so in the second par of the sodding article. At least it does in my
print version.


It does in the second paragraph of the online version too.

But knowing the facts means you can't blow it up into a Sky vs BBC
vendetta.

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Old August 7th 03, 03:03 PM
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Of course the studios will object. Its a commercial tactic for milking more
money out of the BBC licence fee payers. Any business would do the same.


Of course it will be commercial posturing - but by European broadcasters.
They'll use it simply as an excuse not to fork out as much for rights.

We all know it won't make any *real* difference to the value to viewers,
but the studios are rightly worried that the BBC's decision will affect
their ability to maximize income from European broadcasters.

And yes, technically, the BBC don't have the rights to broadcast the
material FTA outside the UK and Ireland.

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Old August 7th 03, 03:18 PM
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But knowing the facts means you can't blow it up into a Sky vs BBC
vendetta.

Again, I don't know what you are referring too? (scratches head).


I'm referring to the fact that it's not *just* Fox that has a problem with
the BBC showing their material FTA. All of the major studios are now
worried about what it'll do to their income.

Sky UK is merely one small subsidary within the Newscorp empire. It is one
"object" in the system.
http://newscorp.com/operations/television.html


Despite what that page implies - rubbish. News Corporation only owns 40%
of BSkyB plc. For a time they weren't even the largest shareholder.

As you would expect with any large shareholder, there are board members in
common between the two, but to describe Sky as just a division of News
Corporation is flatly wrong.

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