can't watch recordings!! silly reason

I've been home this week, taking a break from the rat race.

This week I've had a few problems with sky+ , the new card
is in the box.

I recorded Providence on Hallmark 10:00am but I lost the
signal during the recording. During the recording I was
watching yesterdays edition of Providence. When I lost
the signal I had a message saying I could not watch any
recordings when there is no signal.

HUH? That's ****ing stupid! So if you have no signal on
any channel you CAN'T watch anything you have recorded
on the box.

I have had signal problems with LIVING TV and Bravo
this week. On Monday I recording CSI on living and only
got 9 minutes. I recorded a couple of programs after CSI
which were I couldn't view because of an "Unknown"
message.

2 resets have been done today on my box and I even tried
ringing sky but I was in a queue and a message said my call
would be answered in 40 minutes. There is NO WAY I can
find out if sky are having problems, no status page on their
website. SO I have no idea if it's my equipment at fault or
if sky are having problems.

All this since the new viewing card - HELP!!!!!!

Matt

it did that to me to other day during a thunder storm, so I thought I would
watch the nights big bro that I'd recorded, and no it wouldn't which is
****e as there recording's, so its not a PVR then, but like I was told over
the phone your not paying for the box your paying or the service ;o( so if
you can't recieve sky you can't play,record etc

S

All this since the new viewing card - HELP!!!!!!

Matt

"Sima" wrote in message ...
it did that to me to other day during a thunder storm, so I thought I would
watch the nights big bro that I'd recorded, and no it wouldn't which is
****e as there recording's, so its not a PVR then, but like I was told over
the phone your not paying for the box your paying or the service ;o( so if
you can't recieve sky you can't play,record etc

S



To playback a SKY+ recording of bitstream encrypted data you require
an active signal from the satellite to confirm a valid right to access the data
on the HD.
Yes it is infuriating when you are a genuine subscriber and you have to suffer
due to security concerns because of previous piracy problems SKY have had.
This requirement had been part of the SKY+ system since launch, it's a design
feature not a fault or bug in the OS.

However if you are losing the signal on a regular basis you should consider
having the dish alignment, LNB skew and cable condition checked or even
moving to a larger zone2 dish.

Mike C

"Mike_C" wrote in message
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"Sima" wrote in message
...
it did that to me to other day during a thunder storm, so I thought I
would
watch the nights big bro that I'd recorded, and no it wouldn't which is
****e as there recording's, so its not a PVR then, but like I was told
over
the phone your not paying for the box your paying or the service ;o( so
if
you can't recieve sky you can't play,record etc

S



To playback a SKY+ recording of bitstream encrypted data you require
an active signal from the satellite to confirm a valid right to access the
data
on the HD.
Yes it is infuriating when you are a genuine subscriber and you have to
suffer
due to security concerns because of previous piracy problems SKY have had.
This requirement had been part of the SKY+ system since launch, it's a
design
feature not a fault or bug in the OS.

However if you are losing the signal on a regular basis you should
consider
having the dish alignment, LNB skew and cable condition checked or even
moving to a larger zone2 dish.

Mike C


I was on the sky+ trial not that long ago so everything was checked, okay it
has been raining but that isn't a problem normally. I have a feeling that
the
LNB could be playing up but I will not get it checked unless the problems
get worse. The only channels I lost was living and Bravo, funny thing was
that I lost bravo but I could still get bravo+1.

Matt

trappeduser wrote:

So if you have no signal on
any channel you CAN'T watch anything you have recorded
on the box.

That's right. And you pay Sky £10 per month for this privilege.

Other non-Sky PVRs have no monthly fee and no such technical
requirement for playback.

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"Jomtien" wrote in message
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trappeduser wrote:

So if you have no signal on
any channel you CAN'T watch anything you have recorded
on the box.

That's right. And you pay Sky £10 per month for this privilege.

Other non-Sky PVRs have no monthly fee and no such technical
requirement for playback.

But they dont let you watch one satellite channel and record another.

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"ADC" wrote in message
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To playback a SKY+ recording of bitstream encrypted data you require
an active signal from the satellite to confirm a valid right to access the
data
on the HD.

I'm not doubting you're right, but surely that's what the viewing card is there
for? Sky must have been able to come up with a system that interrogates the
viewing card to check you're paying subs for Sky+. They could even make it box
sensitive like the premium channels so you can't take your card from one box to
the other.

Adam.


I have often wondered why the need for an active satellite connection to view
cached bitstream data streaming off the hard drive and then into a Videoguard
decoder enabled with a valid smartcard.
There must be more to the function than a simple check of the access rights that
a smartcard carries alas I do not know enough about Videoguard to even hazard
a guess what that might be. Perhaps it's just a half arsed extra layer of protection
dreamt up at the last minute by NDS, PACE or SKY which if so achieves nothing
except ****ing off genuine subscribers who even if it's only once in a blue moon
expect to be able to view recorded data when they choose not when the weather
dictates!

Mike C

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"Jomtien" wrote in message
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trappeduser wrote:

So if you have no signal on
any channel you CAN'T watch anything you have recorded
on the box.

That's right. And you pay Sky £10 per month for this privilege.

Other non-Sky PVRs have no monthly fee and no such technical
requirement for playback.

But they dont let you watch one satellite channel and record another.

And how often do two subscription channels clash with a programme that'll
never be seen again?

Often two programmes will clash, but at least one's bound to be FTV so you can
watch that one via analogue or DTT if you have such a box, and almost
everything else gets a quick repeat within the week - see all those +1
channels.
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Mike_C wrote:

Perhaps it's just a half arsed extra layer of protection
dreamt up at the last minute by NDS, PACE or SKY which if so achieves nothing
except ****ing off genuine subscribers

Just about sums it up, I think.

What Sky consistently forget is that they are there to serve the
viewer, not the other way around. Given the total absence of
competition there is nothing to remind them of this simple fact.

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BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.cjb.net/
----
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No monies return'd. ;-)

In article ,
Mike_C wrote:
I have often wondered why the need for an active satellite connection to view
cached bitstream data streaming off the hard drive and then into a Videoguard
decoder enabled with a valid smartcard.
There must be more to the function than a simple check of the access rights that
a smartcard carries alas I do not know enough about Videoguard to even hazard
a guess what that might be.

You're way off. You need a satellite connection so that you can't "avoid"
Sky removing your rights to view if you cancel a part of your
subscription.

Dave
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