Who's jumping ship to Blu-Ray?

Can't see me moving to any of other foramt for MANY years. Not just for financial reasons but
because I'm happy with DVD.

That may change once I need a new TV -but it's unlikely. I really like the DVD format.


So, jumping ship straight away, wait and see or just a plain old 'non'?


http://www.blu-raydisc.com/
http://www.blu-ray.com/


Not many people are shouting about HD (high definition)-DVD, including the backers of DVD
http://www.dvdforum.org


I think content will be king as usual. Whomever Time-Warner and Vivendi Universal support, that is
likely to be more popular. Or maybe not, as they could licence to multiple format parties (like Sky
and BSB (now BritishSkyBroadcasting) and try their luck that way. Of course the courts reversed
those contracts and the studios lost out.


I'm not sure I'll take that much of an interest in all this once it gets going.





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APPRIA40WR wrote:
Can't see me moving to any of other foramt for MANY years. Not just
for financial reasons but because I'm happy with DVD.

That may change once I need a new TV -but it's unlikely. I really
like the DVD format.


So, jumping ship straight away, wait and see or just a plain old
'non'?


Never say never. But as usual it will totally depend on the software
released on the new format.

After the promise of a steady and secure stream of quality movie releases
from a range of studios (and a possible SKY/whoever hookup), other hurdles
are less important.

If it can give a significant quality improvement over dvd (??) I'll have a
looksee at least. Why not?


....Also, remind me... is Blu-Ray backwards compatible with dvd (after
putting a disc in a Blu-Ray sleeve perhaps)?

-Kevin.


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APPRIA40WR wrote:
Can't see me moving to any of other foramt for MANY years. Not just
for financial reasons but because I'm happy with DVD.

That may change once I need a new TV -but it's unlikely. I really
like the DVD format.


So, jumping ship straight away, wait and see or just a plain old
'non'?


Never say never. But as usual it will totally depend on the software
released on the new format.

After the promise of a steady and secure stream of quality movie releases
from a range of studios (and a possible SKY/whoever hookup), other hurdles
are less important.

If it can give a significant quality improvement over dvd (??) I'll have a
looksee at least. Why not?


....Also, remind me... is Blu-Ray backwards compatible with dvd (after
putting a disc in a Blu-Ray sleeve perhaps)?

-Kevin.


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In article ,
says...
Can't see me moving to any of other foramt for MANY years. Not just for financial reasons but
because I'm happy with DVD.

The problem is jumping ship implies that the full back catalogue of DVDs
will then be available on blu-ray so I don't think it can be done, after
all there are still a pile of films only released on VHS or laserdisc
that haven't made it to official DVD releases yet. If those films can't
get DVD releases then there's an even smaller chance of them getting
blu-ray releases, the same licence/rights to distribute problem will also
affect blu-ray so when it starts becomming widespread many will still
have to hold onto their DVD players for those titles that won't make it
to blu-ray.


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Rid

In article ,
says...
Can't see me moving to any of other foramt for MANY years. Not just for financial reasons but
because I'm happy with DVD.

The problem is jumping ship implies that the full back catalogue of DVDs
will then be available on blu-ray so I don't think it can be done, after
all there are still a pile of films only released on VHS or laserdisc
that haven't made it to official DVD releases yet. If those films can't
get DVD releases then there's an even smaller chance of them getting
blu-ray releases, the same licence/rights to distribute problem will also
affect blu-ray so when it starts becomming widespread many will still
have to hold onto their DVD players for those titles that won't make it
to blu-ray.


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Rid

APPRIA40WR wrote:
Can't see me moving to any of other foramt for MANY years. Not just for financial reasons but
because I'm happy with DVD.

Now, I want you ALL to promise me that you will ALL move to the new
format as SOON as it it made available! Old DVDs have been shown to
cause cancer, increase terrorism and smell. I will dispose of your old
catalog of smelly, imoral DVDs for a pound or so each, just like I did
with your old VHS tapes :-) Why not be a trend setter and start sending
me your old DVDs now :-)

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APPRIA40WR wrote:
Can't see me moving to any of other foramt for MANY years. Not just for financial reasons but
because I'm happy with DVD.

Now, I want you ALL to promise me that you will ALL move to the new
format as SOON as it it made available! Old DVDs have been shown to
cause cancer, increase terrorism and smell. I will dispose of your old
catalog of smelly, imoral DVDs for a pound or so each, just like I did
with your old VHS tapes :-) Why not be a trend setter and start sending
me your old DVDs now :-)

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np:
http://www.unmusic.co.uk
http://www.unmusic.co.uk/amh-s-faq.html - alt.music.home-studio FAQ
http://www.unmusic.co.uk/wrap.php?file=vhs.html - vhs purchase log.

Can't see me moving to any of other foramt for MANY years. Not just for
financial reasons but
because I'm happy with DVD.

That may change once I need a new TV -but it's unlikely. I really like
the DVD format.


So, jumping ship straight away, wait and see or just a plain old 'non'?

The change will only happen when high-definition televisions are affordable,
the purchase of which will be determined by when HD content is widely
available.Once people have HD screens and are used to HD content, it stands
to reason that they will want a means of recording or archiving some of that
HD material.

Will they also want to pugrade their existing DVD collections if Blu-ray etc
offers a quality increase? Probably - many people upgraded HS collections
to DVD after all.

Does that mean the way ahead for Blu-ray etc is smooth? Not on your nelly.
Firstly we've got what might be termed "lag" in thetakeup - for Europe, HD
isn't going anywhere for another 2 years - and by that time, there might be
some other "wonder-format" just around the corner that makes Blu-ray a dead
duck. Then there's the problem of persuading people to swap from one format
to anpther - LPs to CD was easy, CDs had many advantages over vynly - but
the mini-disc took an age to get anywhere at all, and it's easy to argue
that it's never been a succesful format. That is partly related to another
problem for Blu-ray, much more likely to happen IMO. Minidisc was launched
as a way to give us CD qualiy music in a smaller, more portable package, but
after initial delays it found itself competing with streamed content off the
internet stored on solid-state devices - the MP3 format. MP3s took off
because the means were there to distribute tracks with a minimum of fuss -
downloading tracks were feasible on a 56k modem line, and becae a doddle
with broadband taking off. If we're not too far off having sufficient
bandwidth and compression schemes for streamed video, Blu-ray might find
itself playing second fiddle to downloaded content, stored on remote servers
and local HDDs rather than having to troop down to HMV to buy more shiny
silver discs.

Richard

Can't see me moving to any of other foramt for MANY years. Not just for
financial reasons but
because I'm happy with DVD.

That may change once I need a new TV -but it's unlikely. I really like
the DVD format.


So, jumping ship straight away, wait and see or just a plain old 'non'?

The change will only happen when high-definition televisions are affordable,
the purchase of which will be determined by when HD content is widely
available.Once people have HD screens and are used to HD content, it stands
to reason that they will want a means of recording or archiving some of that
HD material.

Will they also want to pugrade their existing DVD collections if Blu-ray etc
offers a quality increase? Probably - many people upgraded HS collections
to DVD after all.

Does that mean the way ahead for Blu-ray etc is smooth? Not on your nelly.
Firstly we've got what might be termed "lag" in thetakeup - for Europe, HD
isn't going anywhere for another 2 years - and by that time, there might be
some other "wonder-format" just around the corner that makes Blu-ray a dead
duck. Then there's the problem of persuading people to swap from one format
to anpther - LPs to CD was easy, CDs had many advantages over vynly - but
the mini-disc took an age to get anywhere at all, and it's easy to argue
that it's never been a succesful format. That is partly related to another
problem for Blu-ray, much more likely to happen IMO. Minidisc was launched
as a way to give us CD qualiy music in a smaller, more portable package, but
after initial delays it found itself competing with streamed content off the
internet stored on solid-state devices - the MP3 format. MP3s took off
because the means were there to distribute tracks with a minimum of fuss -
downloading tracks were feasible on a 56k modem line, and becae a doddle
with broadband taking off. If we're not too far off having sufficient
bandwidth and compression schemes for streamed video, Blu-ray might find
itself playing second fiddle to downloaded content, stored on remote servers
and local HDDs rather than having to troop down to HMV to buy more shiny
silver discs.

Richard

Richard Dewsbery wrote:

Then there's the problem of
persuading people to swap from one format to anpther

And I think they've got a problem there. I consider myself far more
interested than most in achieving excellence in my AV viewing, but DVD is
good enough for me. I fear that if I'm happy with the quality of the
current standard, then the uptake of the new format by the public at large
is going to be very slow.

As you say CD offered a huge improvement over vinyl, and similarly DVD is a
huge improvement over VHS. I'm inclined to suspect that 9gb is enough for
most folk though, and Blu-Ray is going to be a niche format for years,
selling in similar volumes to DVD Audio and SACD discs probably.

Andy