Prewired In Wall Speaker Help

Hello. Would love to get some help from some folks in here if possible. I
am going to try to be as descriptive as possible so please don't hesitate to
ask me any clarifying questions.

Summary: I have a prewired set in my home and the builder is simply no
help. I have a basic 5.1 setup. I had speaker wire prewired so that I can
have a left and right rear channels and I also have some speaker wire going
outside for two speakers. All wires go to one source of which I was going
to run out of one receiver.

The Source Location: I have one source that shows two sets of cables both
of which are colored in blue. Each cable contains 2 pairs of wires
(black/red and green/white) for a totel of 8 individual wires.

The Two Rear Covered Outlets:
Left: The left colored cable is colored purple (hmmm doesn't match
source...but figured out why). This cable contains a black/red speaker wire
pair
Right: Is colored blue (just like one of the source colored cables) and it
contains a black/red speaker wire pair.

The Volume Control Nob Outlet: This has six (6) individual cables and I
will try to explain each the best I can.
1. This one is colored purple and contains a green/white speaker wire and
is for my Left outside speaker.
2. This one is colored purple and contains a red/black speaker wire and is
for the Left outlet mentioned above.
3 and 4. These are colored blue and contains a red/black and green white
speaker wire and is obvoiusly going to my source.
5. This one is colored purple and contains a green/white speaker wire and
is for my Right outside speaker.
6. The final one is colored blue and contains a red/black speaker wire and
is obviously going to my right outlet metnioned above.

The problem: Quite simply I can't figure out how I can bypass maybe the
whole nob deal and just connect the speakers to enjoy my home theatre.
Later down the line I can install the outside speaker set. Do I need to get
a volume control and if so what kind? Is there a website that has a good
tutorial on this? My second dilemna is this. Just to test the speaker
wire, I connect a speaker to cable # 3 & 4 - black/red each time to see if I
got sound and there was no sound. What is the deal? These are clearly the
speaker wires from the source right?

I hope this gives you enough information. Thanks ahead for all your help.
I am really stuck here. BTW the company that installed the wires said that
they can't take a liability for setting this up for me. They said they
would hook up my outdoor speaker but because the receiver didn't come from
them the can't guarantee sound. Oh and on top of that they estimate just to
come out and setup the labor charge is going to be at a minimum $200 bucks.
They also said based on how I explained this setup to them over the phone
that I am not going to be able to get home theatre sound and that I should
have told the builder that I specifically wanted the home theatre package.
What the? Please help!

Again Thanks.
- StevenR

Steven:

If you have determined that the wire is thick enough to carry the
current to your speakers, here's my opnion based on your description:

1. Use a flashlight bulb and a battery to test each wire (not a good
idea to test with amplifier and speakers) i.e.
Connect the bulb at your speaker end and the battery at your nob
plate end, if the bulb lights you have the right pair, mark the wire
pairs for each location.
Connect the bulb at your receiver/amplifier to each pair and the
battery at the nob end and mark of the wire pairs
Join the wires to complete your circuit as below. Make sure you use
good insulation tape or connectors so that they don't short.

Receiver
LR LF C RF RR
BGW BBR BBR BGW
|| || || || ||
PBR PGW BBR PGW
LR LF C RF RR


LR = Left Rear
LF = Left Front
RF = Right Front
RR = Right Rear

3 Character can be deciphered
1st Char = Outside Sheath Color
2nd & 3rd Char = Pair colors

This explanation is fairly rudimentary and I hope what you are asking
for.

If you're not confident of your DIY skills spend the $200.

No warranty or guarantees that this information is accurate or
correct.

Anil.

"Steven Rodriguez" wrote in message news:[email protected]
Hello. Would love to get some help from some folks in here if possible. I
am going to try to be as descriptive as possible so please don't hesitate to
ask me any clarifying questions.

Summary: I have a prewired set in my home and the builder is simply no
help. I have a basic 5.1 setup. I had speaker wire prewired so that I can
have a left and right rear channels and I also have some speaker wire going
outside for two speakers. All wires go to one source of which I was going
to run out of one receiver.

The Source Location: I have one source that shows two sets of cables both
of which are colored in blue. Each cable contains 2 pairs of wires
(black/red and green/white) for a totel of 8 individual wires.

The Two Rear Covered Outlets:
Left: The left colored cable is colored purple (hmmm doesn't match
source...but figured out why). This cable contains a black/red speaker wire
pair
Right: Is colored blue (just like one of the source colored cables) and it
contains a black/red speaker wire pair.

The Volume Control Nob Outlet: This has six (6) individual cables and I
will try to explain each the best I can.
1. This one is colored purple and contains a green/white speaker wire and
is for my Left outside speaker.
2. This one is colored purple and contains a red/black speaker wire and is
for the Left outlet mentioned above.
3 and 4. These are colored blue and contains a red/black and green white
speaker wire and is obvoiusly going to my source.
5. This one is colored purple and contains a green/white speaker wire and
is for my Right outside speaker.
6. The final one is colored blue and contains a red/black speaker wire and
is obviously going to my right outlet metnioned above.

The problem: Quite simply I can't figure out how I can bypass maybe the
whole nob deal and just connect the speakers to enjoy my home theatre.
Later down the line I can install the outside speaker set. Do I need to get
a volume control and if so what kind? Is there a website that has a good
tutorial on this? My second dilemna is this. Just to test the speaker
wire, I connect a speaker to cable # 3 & 4 - black/red each time to see if I
got sound and there was no sound. What is the deal? These are clearly the
speaker wires from the source right?

I hope this gives you enough information. Thanks ahead for all your help.
I am really stuck here. BTW the company that installed the wires said that
they can't take a liability for setting this up for me. They said they
would hook up my outdoor speaker but because the receiver didn't come from
them the can't guarantee sound. Oh and on top of that they estimate just to
come out and setup the labor charge is going to be at a minimum $200 bucks.
They also said based on how I explained this setup to them over the phone
that I am not going to be able to get home theatre sound and that I should
have told the builder that I specifically wanted the home theatre package.
What the? Please help!

Again Thanks.
- StevenR

Forget the bulb and connect the speakers to the speaker wire. Make a
momentary (1 sec) connection to the battery and you will hear a clicking
sound from the speaker its connected to.

CJL

"Anil Asher" wrote in message
om...
Steven:

If you have determined that the wire is thick enough to carry the
current to your speakers, here's my opnion based on your description:

1. Use a flashlight bulb and a battery to test each wire (not a good
idea to test with amplifier and speakers) i.e.
Connect the bulb at your speaker end and the battery at your nob
plate end, if the bulb lights you have the right pair, mark the wire
pairs for each location.
Connect the bulb at your receiver/amplifier to each pair and the
battery at the nob end and mark of the wire pairs
Join the wires to complete your circuit as below. Make sure you use
good insulation tape or connectors so that they don't short.

Receiver
LR LF C RF RR
BGW BBR BBR BGW
|| || || || ||
PBR PGW BBR PGW
LR LF C RF RR


LR = Left Rear
LF = Left Front
RF = Right Front
RR = Right Rear

3 Character can be deciphered
1st Char = Outside Sheath Color
2nd & 3rd Char = Pair colors

This explanation is fairly rudimentary and I hope what you are asking
for.

If you're not confident of your DIY skills spend the $200.

No warranty or guarantees that this information is accurate or
correct.

Anil.

"Steven Rodriguez" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Hello. Would love to get some help from some folks in here if possible.
I
am going to try to be as descriptive as possible so please don't
hesitate to
ask me any clarifying questions.

Summary: I have a prewired set in my home and the builder is simply no
help. I have a basic 5.1 setup. I had speaker wire prewired so that I
can
have a left and right rear channels and I also have some speaker wire
going
outside for two speakers. All wires go to one source of which I was
going
to run out of one receiver.

The Source Location: I have one source that shows two sets of cables
both
of which are colored in blue. Each cable contains 2 pairs of wires
(black/red and green/white) for a totel of 8 individual wires.

The Two Rear Covered Outlets:
Left: The left colored cable is colored purple (hmmm doesn't match
source...but figured out why). This cable contains a black/red speaker
wire
pair
Right: Is colored blue (just like one of the source colored cables) and
it
contains a black/red speaker wire pair.

The Volume Control Nob Outlet: This has six (6) individual cables and I
will try to explain each the best I can.
1. This one is colored purple and contains a green/white speaker wire
and
is for my Left outside speaker.
2. This one is colored purple and contains a red/black speaker wire and
is
for the Left outlet mentioned above.
3 and 4. These are colored blue and contains a red/black and green
white
speaker wire and is obvoiusly going to my source.
5. This one is colored purple and contains a green/white speaker wire
and
is for my Right outside speaker.
6. The final one is colored blue and contains a red/black speaker wire
and
is obviously going to my right outlet metnioned above.

The problem: Quite simply I can't figure out how I can bypass maybe the
whole nob deal and just connect the speakers to enjoy my home theatre.
Later down the line I can install the outside speaker set. Do I need to
get
a volume control and if so what kind? Is there a website that has a
good
tutorial on this? My second dilemna is this. Just to test the speaker
wire, I connect a speaker to cable # 3 & 4 - black/red each time to see
if I
got sound and there was no sound. What is the deal? These are clearly
the
speaker wires from the source right?

I hope this gives you enough information. Thanks ahead for all your
help.
I am really stuck here. BTW the company that installed the wires said
that
they can't take a liability for setting this up for me. They said they
would hook up my outdoor speaker but because the receiver didn't come
from
them the can't guarantee sound. Oh and on top of that they estimate
just to
come out and setup the labor charge is going to be at a minimum $200
bucks.
They also said based on how I explained this setup to them over the
phone
that I am not going to be able to get home theatre sound and that I
should
have told the builder that I specifically wanted the home theatre
package.
What the? Please help!

Again Thanks.
- StevenR