VCR Ad skipping functionality with Sky Digital?

Hi all...
I get the impression that, should I go ahead and buy a VCR with
ad-skipping functionality, that I will not be able to get this to work
when recording from Sky Digital?

Could I just confirm that I have this correctly? It would save me the
purchase cost of getting it right!

Has anyone found out any other ways of skipping ads when recording
from Sky Digital?

Best wishes,

Paul

In message , Paul
Richards writes
Has anyone found out any other ways of skipping ads when recording
from Sky Digital?

A HD recorder.
I just love our Tivo. Advert comes on, blip blip blip, 1 sec later,
press play. Sorted!

I can't bring myself to watch ANYTHING anymore direct from those advert
pumping bas***ds sky!



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Hi all...
I get the impression that, should I go ahead and buy a VCR with
ad-skipping functionality, that I will not be able to get this to work
when recording from Sky Digital?

Could I just confirm that I have this correctly? It would save me the
purchase cost of getting it right!

Has anyone found out any other ways of skipping ads when recording
from Sky Digital?

Best wishes,

Paul

IIUIC the main way of recognising ad's is that the sound level goes up 3dB,
possibly you get flash screens and lots more transition, so a good system
could learn it (Tarrant on TV might fool it though).

Generally each channel has a characteristic time (e.g. 3m30s or 4m) and you
just search forward for that time (my VCR has a time display).

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Naw, it's called BBC.

Needs to be a bit more specific nowadays but I know what you mean. Its a
pity its not called 'Freeview'!

I have this nasty feeling that the licence is going to go soon, and
what's going to happen then?

Possibly even worse is the scenario (which is apparently happening in
the states already) where so many people have equipment that allows them
to skip past the adverts, the ad people are now cutting back on
traditional 'every 15 min break' type of adverts and are paying for in
your face product placement/endorsement in the bloody show itself :-(
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In message , Paul
Richards writes
Has anyone found out any other ways of skipping ads when recording
from Sky Digital?

A HD recorder.
I just love our Tivo. Advert comes on, blip blip blip, 1 sec later,
press play. Sorted!

I can't bring myself to watch ANYTHING anymore direct from those advert
pumping bas***ds sky!


Hi Gareth...Can you please explain in more detail? Do you mean the ads
are skipped during recording or during playback?
That's what I'm puzzled about! And your Tivo system, is it Sky Plus,
and if it isn't, how do you configure it to work with Sky?
Best, Paul

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In message , Lawr

Possibly even worse is the scenario (which is apparently happening in
the states already) where so many people have equipment that allows them
to skip past the adverts, the ad people are now cutting back on
traditional 'every 15 min break' type of adverts and are paying for in
your face product placement/endorsement in the bloody show itself :-(

and if the advertisers start to think that too many people are skipping the ads
too easily with HD based systems, then to protect revenue expect Sky at least to
switch on the feature in Sky+ that prevents you from doing so - or simply put up
the subscription to compensate.

Loz

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In message , Paul
Richards writes
Has anyone found out any other ways of skipping ads when recording
from Sky Digital?

A HD recorder.
I just love our Tivo. Advert comes on, blip blip blip, 1 sec later,
press play. Sorted!

I can't bring myself to watch ANYTHING anymore direct from those advert
pumping bas***ds sky!


Hi Gareth...Can you please explain in more detail? Do you mean the ads
are skipped during recording or during playback?
That's what I'm puzzled about! And your Tivo system, is it Sky Plus,
and if it isn't, how do you configure it to work with Sky?
Best, Paul

The ads are skipped in playback.
With HD disk based systems things like fast forward can be made much quicker,
and as is the case with Tivo, easily set to jump instantly in preassigned
chunks. e.g. if you HD record has a 30 sec jump button, just hit it quickly 10
times and you have almost instantly skipped the 5 minute ad break

However, the Sky+ system is designed to enable Sky to disable fast forwarding
during adverts if they wish. This feature isn't turned on at present, but if the
advertisers think too many people are skipping the ads, don't be surprised if
they do.

loz

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Richards writes
Hi Gareth...Can you please explain in more detail? Do you mean the ads
are skipped during recording or during playback?
That's what I'm puzzled about! And your Tivo system, is it Sky Plus,
and if it isn't, how do you configure it to work with Sky?

Tivo can be configured to work with sky, NTL, terrestrial - whatever.
You tell it what you've got and it only downloads the appropriate
listings.

As has been mentioned, it records everything, but on playback (and you
soon learn to watch EVERYTHING via this - never live!) you have a fast
forward button. Press it up to three times for varying speed (hence the
'blip blip blip'!) *3 is _very_ fast so within a few seconds, you've
passed the adverts (you can see the prog starting again) - but when you
press the play, the tivo will jump back a number of seconds (depending
on the FF speed) so you won't miss the start of what you are watching.

Once you get the hang of it, you can get really good accuracy, and as it
literally is only a couple of seconds, it doesn't really interrupt the
program flow, and you do get this perverse sense of pleasure in knowing
you've got your own back on those *******s that have taken your money
once for the subscription ..... and STILL want to force adverts down
your throat!

BTW, the tivo has a great remote and a really well thought out
methodology in operation. Even the 'blip' and other noises are .....
dare I say the word..... cool!

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Dear all...

Just to say very many thanks, and extremely helpful. What a helpful
newsgroup! I am now beginning to understand what I need to do.
How easy is standalone Tivo to get in this country, if I decided not
to opt for sky + ?

(Paul Richards) wrote in message . com...
Hi all...
I get the impression that, should I go ahead and buy a VCR with
ad-skipping functionality, that I will not be able to get this to work
when recording from Sky Digital?

Could I just confirm that I have this correctly? It would save me the
purchase cost of getting it right!

Has anyone found out any other ways of skipping ads when recording
from Sky Digital?

Best wishes,

Paul

In message , Paul
Richards writes
Just to say very many thanks, and extremely helpful. What a helpful
newsgroup! I am now beginning to understand what I need to do.
How easy is standalone Tivo to get in this country, if I decided not
to opt for sky + ?

Cor blimey ...... are you really talking about UKMHC??
;-)

Now comes the problem. While Tivo is still going (very) strongly in the
states, they have stopped selling the units over here, although they do
still exist in this country and do provide the listing service etc to
update the Tivo.

While they might introduce the new models released in the states, your
best bet is to buy second hand or from e-bay etc.
There are (or at least were when I last looked) some companies still
selling they and normally these are modified ones with bigger hard disks
in which is well worth having anyway. I'd be really knackered if my Tivo
went tits up (and I don't even watch much telly).
I was going to say its like having a microwave. Until you have one, you
don't realise how useful it is...... but then I realised its more like
passing your driving test and buying a car - you can always eventually
get from A to B by bus.. But once you can drive....... you get the
picture.


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