Question reg. DD 5.0 mixes

Interested buying a music DVD, however it has DD 5.0 and DTS 5.0. I've set
speakers to small 80hz for all (despite my mains going down to 40hz) with
subwoofer at 80hz.

What happens to low bass- will it be lost? To get 79hz and under will I have
to set the mains to large? Or will my processor re-direct 80hz to subwoofer
anyway?

Processor is a Lexicon MC-1. Will be using Logic 7 Music mode.

Thanks

Nath wrote:
Interested buying a music DVD, however it has DD 5.0 and DTS 5.0. I've set
speakers to small 80hz for all (despite my mains going down to 40hz) with
subwoofer at 80hz.

What happens to low bass- will it be lost? To get 79hz and under will I have
to set the mains to large? Or will my processor re-direct 80hz to subwoofer
anyway?

Processor is a Lexicon MC-1. Will be using Logic 7 Music mode.

What does the manual say about the MC-1 redirecting bass to the sub?

It's all down to the MC-1 and I don't know how many people here have
experience of one. I sure don't!
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Nath wrote:
Interested buying a music DVD, however it has DD 5.0 and DTS 5.0. I've set
speakers to small 80hz for all (despite my mains going down to 40hz) with
subwoofer at 80hz.

What happens to low bass- will it be lost? To get 79hz and under will I have
to set the mains to large? Or will my processor re-direct 80hz to subwoofer
anyway?

Processor is a Lexicon MC-1. Will be using Logic 7 Music mode.

What does the manual say about the MC-1 redirecting bass to the sub?

It's all down to the MC-1 and I don't know how many people here have
experience of one. I sure don't!

Neither do I - but I would have expected the bass to be redirected to
the sub as normal.

However I'm curious as to WHY you would want to do this? If the thing is
recorded as 5.0 (and I'm also curious as to what this music DVD is) then
its probably going to sound best coming out of a decent set of main
speakers anyway without the sub coming into the equation.

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My room isn't that big, so I get some room boom due to having floorstanding
speakers. Setting 80hz on the mains I can tailor the bass.
The SVS sounds better in the region of 40hz-80hz than the floorstanders.
Alot more punch.
It puts less strain on my amp/speakers, and sounds better overall.

Fair enough.
While a sub is a must for films, personally I just find that the lag on
most subs and the fact that most music doesn't really go 'that' low
means I prefer not to use the sub for this use.

I guess I've just realised I'm not as totally addicted to bass as I
thought.
A waw a wawwwwww......


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My room isn't that big, so I get some room boom due to having
floorstanding
speakers. Setting 80hz on the mains I can tailor the bass.
The SVS sounds better in the region of 40hz-80hz than the floorstanders.
Alot more punch.
It puts less strain on my amp/speakers, and sounds better overall.

Fair enough.
While a sub is a must for films, personally I just find that the lag on
most subs and the fact that most music doesn't really go 'that' low
means I prefer not to use the sub for this use.

I guess I've just realised I'm not as totally addicted to bass as I
thought.
A waw a wawwwwww......

Things like kick drums are reproduced well by subwoofers, most
floorstanders don't have the attack that is needed. I believe the kick drum
isn't that low (something around 40-50hz) but subs reproduce it better. Some
music does go quite low, especially synthesized and pipe organ music. Try
playing some Madonna tracks- unless you have huge main speakers like JM Lab
Grand Utopia you will need a subwoofer for music (esp if the main speakers
are standmounters)

I can understand the reason that some subs are a bit slow or don't go that
low, but no problems if you have a decent quality subs that can do both well
(low and fast) I've used my SVS in my music system for a while (45hz
rolloff) and it adds LF sound my Etudes can't reproduce. It's not boomy or
slow.

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Things like kick drums are reproduced well by subwoofers, most
floorstanders don't have the attack that is needed. I believe the kick drum
isn't that low (something around 40-50hz) but subs reproduce it better

Most subs?? Sure ???

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Things like kick drums are reproduced well by subwoofers, most
floorstanders don't have the attack that is needed. I believe the kick
drum
isn't that low (something around 40-50hz) but subs reproduce it better

Most subs?? Sure ???

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I mean good quality subs.. sure they are plenty of Yamaha and Rel Quake and
stuff, but I'm talking of higher end subs.

My sub reaches lower than the Ruark Etude & Kef 2.2's, blends in well (45hz
& 80hz respectively) So why not use it? Certainly not sloppy. Sounds fine
with music.

What's your sub?

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Most subs?? Sure ???

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I mean good quality subs.. sure they are plenty of Yamaha and Rel Quake and
stuff, but I'm talking of higher end subs.

My sub reaches lower than the Ruark Etude & Kef 2.2's, blends in well (45hz
& 80hz respectively) So why not use it? Certainly not sloppy. Sounds fine
with music.

What's your sub?

:-)

I've got a Yamaha g something or other
and a Velodyne CHT-10 bigger g

I'm just making the point that _most_ peoples subs are not particularly
great with music and also even recording studios just rely on their main
'floorstanders' when they are doing the mix in the first place.


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:-)

I've got a Yamaha g something or other
and a Velodyne CHT-10 bigger g

I'm just making the point that _most_ peoples subs are not particularly
great with music and also even recording studios just rely on their main
'floorstanders' when they are doing the mix in the first place.

OK, if people have main speakers that can handle full-range (JM Lab Grand
Utopia) or more common speakers LF handlig 50hz- ie Kef Q55 without a
subwoofer.. or THX system (which most are around 80hz) without a
subwoofer - playing back a 5.0 DVD.

For music, the first system will probably sound better, as the 80hz speakers
will lack low-end. But add a top-end subwoofer to both and they'll be pretty
close (depending on room/speaker setting/subwoofer output etc)

The CHT-10 is good value, but cerainly isn't a top-end sub (sealed box? and
only 150W amp)- only capable of 28hz +/-3dB. Distortion figure for that
subwoofer trying to reproduce low & loud (could) be pretty high. I'm talking
of the really low & loud & fast & low distortion subwoofers here (SVS, Servo
15, Velo HGS line) Perhaps that's why you dislike using it for music?