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I installed a new Hughs dual tuner yesterday and came against the fact
that I could not record the lite jazz (or any other music channel)
What's the deal? I can record any video style channel - what's the
difference with music?

David

David L Crawford wrote:
I installed a new Hughes dual tuner yesterday and came against the
fact
that I could not record the lite jazz (or any other music channel)
What's the deal? I can record any video style channel - what's the
difference with music?

David

The difference is that you can record programs, but not music :-)

If you need to record something, record it to your Hi-Fi VCR and you'll
get 6-8 hours of CD-quality recording. I'm guessing the lack of
recording may have something to do with the contracts DirecTV signed
with the recording industry.

--
David G.

David L Crawford wrote:
I installed a new Hughs dual tuner yesterday and came against the fact
that I could not record the lite jazz (or any other music channel)
What's the deal? I can record any video style channel - what's the
difference with music?

Another poster already answered your question. But, for what it's
worth, you can actually record these channels. Create a wishlist that
matches one of them, and it'll record the channel. The end result is
less than ideal. When you try to play back the recording, you'll have
no video at all (the last frame of now playing will be frozen on the
screen), and it won't show any info about the current song.

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The difference is that you can record programs, but not music :-)

Huh? I can (on DTV). In fact the suggest function is always recording
the rap and reggae channels when it is not doing anything else. I
figured this is becuase that is what I listen to most.

George in Seattle

the moke monster wrote:
The difference is that you can record programs, but not music :-)

Huh? I can (on DTV). In fact the suggest function is always
recording the rap and reggae channels when it is not doing anything
else. I figured this is becuase that is what I listen to most.

George in Seattle

Are you saying that you can go to an audio only music channel, press the
record button, and the DirecTivo responds with a message saying it's
recording?

--
David G.

Are you saying that you can go to an audio only music channel, press the
record button, and the DirecTivo responds with a message saying it's
recording?


Yes, in fact here it is recording right now:
http://www.barkless.com/pics/dscn0619.jpg

What is want now is to figure out how to get it to trasfer files over to
my PC so I can store these tunes. Anyone have a file snoop pgm for linux
that works over networks?

George in Seattle

Are you saying that you can go to an audio only music channel, press the
record button, and the DirecTivo responds with a message saying it's
recording?

Yes, in fact here it is recording right now:
http://www.barkless.com/pics/dscn0619.jpg

You don't have a DirecTiVo. The rules are different (annoyingly
enough) for a DirecTiVo.

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:10:44 -0500, Keeper of the Purple Twilight wrote:

What I wanna know from that picture is, who the hell records "Rap" AND
"The Capital Gang"? :)

LOL..... I had to look up "The Capital Gang", because with no reference it
seems to fit... ;)

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Lenroc

"David G." wrote in message
...

If you need to record something, record it to your Hi-Fi VCR and you'll
get 6-8 hours of CD-quality recording. I'm guessing the lack of
recording may have something to do with the contracts DirecTV signed
with the recording industry.


I believe the music channels are in a different stream format and the Tivo
software is not written to handle that for recording and playback. So, it
is just passed through to the receiver hardware. Music is certainly not the
target of a Tivo system, so in general, I find this a non-issue. Just pipe
your audio output where ever you want and record it (tape deck with Metal
tapes? CD-R? Etc).

Tom Veldhouse

"the moke monster" wrote in message
...
The difference is that you can record programs, but not music :-)

Huh? I can (on DTV). In fact the suggest function is always recording
the rap and reggae channels when it is not doing anything else. I
figured this is becuase that is what I listen to most.

George in Seattle


You probably have a Stand-Alone Tivo. You are wasting a lot of disk space
just to record a little music, as you recording the video and the audio.

Tom Veldhouse

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote in message
...

"the moke monster" wrote in message
...
The difference is that you can record programs, but not music :-)

Huh? I can (on DTV). In fact the suggest function is always recording
the rap and reggae channels when it is not doing anything else. I
figured this is becuase that is what I listen to most.

George in Seattle


You probably have a Stand-Alone Tivo. You are wasting a lot of disk space
just to record a little music, as you recording the video and the audio.

Well, the video is pretty static so I bet the TiVo compresses the snot out
of it.

"Seth" wrote:
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote in message
You probably have a Stand-Alone Tivo. You are wasting a lot of disk space
just to record a little music, as you recording the video and the audio.

Well, the video is pretty static so I bet the TiVo compresses the snot out
of it.

Any video will take the same amount of space with CBR recording. If
you have VBR recording enabled ("save disk space"), then it will take
less space, but I think the lower bound is still equal to the Basic
recording level.

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Seth wrote:

so I bet the TiVo compresses the snot out of it

Any idea what the derivation of using the word "snot" in that context
comes from? I've heard "beat the snot out of him", but never
"compresses the snot out of it". Given that liquids are not
compressible, I'm not sure it's the correct usage. I don't really care
cause it makes me laugh. Snot is a great word.


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"David G." wrote in message
...
Seth wrote:

so I bet the TiVo compresses the snot out of it

Any idea what the derivation of using the word "snot" in that context
comes from? I've heard "beat the snot out of him", but never
"compresses the snot out of it". Given that liquids are not
compressible, I'm not sure it's the correct usage. I don't really care
cause it makes me laugh. Snot is a great word.

I'm sure I misused the word here. I too have heard it used in the way you
mentioned, but regardless of it's accuracy in this context, I believe it
still is a fair representation of the thought being expressed.

* David G. Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo, on Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:25:30 -0400:
Seth wrote:

so I bet the TiVo compresses the snot out of it

Any idea what the derivation of using the word "snot" in that context
comes from? I've heard "beat the snot out of him", but never
"compresses the snot out of it". Given that liquids are not
compressible, I'm not sure it's the correct usage. I don't really care
cause it makes me laugh. Snot is a great word.

Snot isnt fully Liquid is it?

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SINNER wrote:
* David G. Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo, on Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:25:30
-0400:
Seth wrote:

so I bet the TiVo compresses the snot out of it

Any idea what the derivation of using the word "snot" in that context
comes from? I've heard "beat the snot out of him", but never
"compresses the snot out of it". Given that liquids are not
compressible, I'm not sure it's the correct usage. I don't really
care cause it makes me laugh. Snot is a great word.

Snot isnt fully Liquid is it?

Mine is at this moment. I would say if there are any solids involved,
you are dealing with boogers, not snot.


--
David G.

* David G. Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo, on Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:26:52 -0400:
SINNER wrote:
* David G. Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo, on Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:25:30
-0400:
Seth wrote:

so I bet the TiVo compresses the snot out of it

Any idea what the derivation of using the word "snot" in that context
comes from? I've heard "beat the snot out of him", but never
"compresses the snot out of it". Given that liquids are not
compressible, I'm not sure it's the correct usage. I don't really
care cause it makes me laugh. Snot is a great word.

Snot isnt fully Liquid is it?

Mine is at this moment. I would say if there are any solids involved,
you are dealing with boogers, not snot.

Id bet it is still not fully liquid, more likley a suspension :)

Suddenly I feel queazy...
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In article ,
Keeper of the Purple Twilight says:

What I wanna know from that picture is, who the hell records "Rap" AND
"The Capital Gang"? :)

ahem

Hell, I was about to mention (after seeing "The Man Show" in there) about how
our preferences were so alike!

-Kenny

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In article ,
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" says:

You probably have a Stand-Alone Tivo. You are wasting a lot of disk space
just to record a little music, as you recording the video and the audio.

Actually, no- in fact one of the problems I had with my SA recording the
MC Channels is the extreme compression of the video meant TiVo was doing
so much optimization the sound had dropouts in it. (Note how fast TiVo
whips thru at the 3X/30X speeds on a static screen).

-Kenny

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In article ,
SINNER says:

Snot isnt fully Liquid is it?

Sometimes it is, sometimes it snot.

-Kenny "I'll be here all week!" Crudup

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It looks like water, but it's snot.

"Kenneth Crudup" wrote in message
...
In article ,
SINNER says:

Snot isnt fully Liquid is it?

Sometimes it is, sometimes it snot.

-Kenny "I'll be here all week!" Crudup

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OK Folks, here's the deal.
Since I listen to WAY more JAZZ than video content the idea was to
take the TiVo's content to the boat and have a Full (unattended ) day
of music, just like at home.
Since DVD the VCR is no longer on the boat.
There's got to be an all day digi solution.....

David









On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:36:24 -0500, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
wrote:


"David G." wrote in message
...

If you need to record something, record it to your Hi-Fi VCR and you'll
get 6-8 hours of CD-quality recording. I'm guessing the lack of
recording may have something to do with the contracts DirecTV signed
with the recording industry.


I believe the music channels are in a different stream format and the Tivo
software is not written to handle that for recording and playback. So, it
is just passed through to the receiver hardware. Music is certainly not the
target of a Tivo system, so in general, I find this a non-issue. Just pipe
your audio output where ever you want and record it (tape deck with Metal
tapes? CD-R? Etc).

Tom Veldhouse

Am I hearing that there is a version that will record music?

Thanks George.

David


On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:33:38 GMT, the moke monster
wrote:

The difference is that you can record programs, but not music :-)

Huh? I can (on DTV). In fact the suggest function is always recording
the rap and reggae channels when it is not doing anything else. I
figured this is becuase that is what I listen to most.

George in Seattle

David L Crawford wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:33:38 GMT, the moke monster
wrote:
Huh? I can (on DTV). In fact the suggest function is always recording
the rap and reggae channels when it is not doing anything else.

Am I hearing that there is a version that will record music?

The stand alone TiVos can record the music channels. The combo units
can't.

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David L Crawford wrote:
OK Folks, here's the deal. Since I listen to WAY more JAZZ than video
content the idea was to take the TiVo's content to the boat and have
a Full (unattended ) day of music, just like at home. Since DVD the
VCR is no longer on the boat. There's got to be an all day digi
solution.....

Create a wish list to record the jazz channel. You can play back the
recordings, but will have trouble if you try to shuttle around in
them.

Is this what you want? Record the music, then take the TiVo with you
on the boat to play it?

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On 24 Oct 2003 11:59:49 -0700, "Scott Seligman"
wrote:

David L Crawford wrote:
OK Folks, here's the deal. Since I listen to WAY more JAZZ than video
content the idea was to take the TiVo's content to the boat and have
a Full (unattended ) day of music, just like at home. Since DVD the
VCR is no longer on the boat. There's got to be an all day digi
solution.....

Create a wish list to record the jazz channel. You can play back the
recordings, but will have trouble if you try to shuttle around in
them.

Is this what you want? Record the music, then take the TiVo with you
on the boat to play it?

You might be able to connect the audio out from Tivo directly to your
audio input on your computer, capture this and convert to MP3 music.
Then you could put up to 6 hrs of mp3 on a CDR. How many hours a day
are you awake?

I have consider doing this but have not tried it yet. I did record
about 5 vhs tapes in 6 hr mode when I first got my Hughes receiver. I
know I can record audio tape to the HD so it should be easy to record
from the vhs recorder, but I see no reason you could not record
directly to the HD from the SAT recever?

Has anyone done this alreay?