NBC Lineup Message
 

Did anyone else get the Tivo message today about the NBC lineup? When I
turned on my Tivo this morning, the message came onto the screen
immediately, which surprised me. I don't remember the exact wording,
but it said something like "NBC has used unconventional start times for
many of their Thursday night shows, so check your To Do list and
Recording History to make sure you aren't missing anything".

I was pretty startled that Tivo would send out a message like that,
especially since it mentioned NBC directly. (Doesn't Tivo have some
kind of joint agreement with NBC?) It seemed like a criticism of NBC's
methods.

I think NBC is stupid for changing the ER start time to 9:59 (which
brings it into conflict with CSI, the #1 show on TV - how many Tivo
users will just cancel ER instead of missing CSI or setting up a manual
recording?) but I was even more surprised to see Tivo sending out a high
priority message that seemed pointedly critical of NBC.

Karen

"Karen Wheless" wrote in message
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Did anyone else get the Tivo message today about the NBC lineup? When I
turned on my Tivo this morning, the message came onto the screen
immediately, which surprised me. I don't remember the exact wording,
but it said something like "NBC has used unconventional start times for
many of their Thursday night shows, so check your To Do list and
Recording History to make sure you aren't missing anything".

I was pretty startled that Tivo would send out a message like that,
especially since it mentioned NBC directly. (Doesn't Tivo have some
kind of joint agreement with NBC?) It seemed like a criticism of NBC's
methods.

I think NBC is stupid for changing the ER start time to 9:59 (which
brings it into conflict with CSI, the #1 show on TV - how many Tivo
users will just cancel ER instead of missing CSI or setting up a manual
recording?) but I was even more surprised to see Tivo sending out a high
priority message that seemed pointedly critical of NBC.

Karen

I can't say that I blame TiVo for sending the message. There must be folks
all over missing parts of shows because of NBC's goofy start times, and I'm
sure that the folks at TiVo are tired of hearing complaints about something
they really can't control.

I mean, for Pete's sake, NBC is premiering "Coupling" this Thursday at 8:27
(listed). If they're up to their standard tricks, that means the show will
probably actually start at 8:25. . . Now granted, the NBC version of
"Coupling" is likely to be a lame-assed imitation of their British
counterpart, but if a person wanted to set a recording, it's an irritating
little item they have going with these start times.

In article ,
Karen Wheless wrote:
I think NBC is stupid for changing the ER start time to 9:59 (which

I guess I'm the only one defending this -- I've been defending it on
tivocommunity too.

As much as people complain about invalid guide data, here is NBC
*ACTUALLY GIVING* correct guide data. (or at least closer to correct).

I'm all for it -- it lets me get rid of the pre-pad on 'er'. (At least I
will try it once on the premiere.. if it cuts out any of the actual episode
and not just "previously on..", I'll go back to putting the pad back).

Hooray for NBC giving correct times!

These odd start times are bogus. They could be hurting themselves.
If those early starts are over a different show I'm interested in, I
won't bother flipping over to an NBC show since if I can't see the
whole thing I'm not interested in seeing any of it.

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:14:02 -0400, (Karen
Wheless) wrote:

Did anyone else get the Tivo message today about the NBC lineup? When I
turned on my Tivo this morning, the message came onto the screen
immediately, which surprised me. I don't remember the exact wording,
but it said something like "NBC has used unconventional start times for
many of their Thursday night shows, so check your To Do list and
Recording History to make sure you aren't missing anything".

I was pretty startled that Tivo would send out a message like that,
especially since it mentioned NBC directly. (Doesn't Tivo have some
kind of joint agreement with NBC?) It seemed like a criticism of NBC's
methods.

I think NBC is stupid for changing the ER start time to 9:59 (which
brings it into conflict with CSI, the #1 show on TV - how many Tivo
users will just cancel ER instead of missing CSI or setting up a manual
recording?) but I was even more surprised to see Tivo sending out a high
priority message that seemed pointedly critical of NBC.

Karen

"Matt Ackeret" wrote
Karen Wheless wrote:
I think NBC is stupid for changing the ER start time to 9:59 (which
I guess I'm the only one defending this -- I've been defending it on
tivocommunity too.
As much as people complain about invalid guide data, here is NBC
*ACTUALLY GIVING* correct guide data. (or at least closer to correct).
I'm all for it -- it lets me get rid of the pre-pad on 'er'. (At least I
will try it once on the premiere.. if it cuts out any of the actual episode
and not just "previously on..", I'll go back to putting the pad back).
Hooray for NBC giving correct times!

No way. I'm not going to cheer this because their practice is
solely to screw up the ability to watch and/or record stuff on
other channels. Cheering this would be like cheering Microsoft
for using nonstandard web language on its sites but giving you
a free tool to use the nonstandard HTML. Wait...

Karen Wheless wrote:
Did anyone else get the Tivo message today about the NBC lineup? When I
turned on my Tivo this morning, the message came onto the screen
immediately, which surprised me. I don't remember the exact wording,
but it said something like "NBC has used unconventional start times for
many of their Thursday night shows, so check your To Do list and
Recording History to make sure you aren't missing anything".

From Zap2It and TiVo guide data:
8:00pm (48 min) Friends
8:48pm (39 min) Will & Grace
9:27pm (30 min) Coupling
9:59pm (61 min) ER

It's nice that TiVo is warning us that, by honoring the
non-standard starting times, higher priority Season Pass
entries on NBC may cause Season Passes on other channels
to be pre-empted (due to a minute or three overlap).

I'm glad that TiVo gave us this warning, but the ability
to record 95% of a conflicting show would be a lot better.
-Joe

"Joe Smith" wrote in message
et...

It's nice that TiVo is warning us that, by honoring the
non-standard starting times, higher priority Season Pass
entries on NBC may cause Season Passes on other channels
to be pre-empted (due to a minute or three overlap).

NBCs plans may backfire on them, however, when the odd start time causes
*their* program to be pre-empted and missed completely.

I'm glad that TiVo gave us this warning, but the ability
to record 95% of a conflicting show would be a lot better.

Absolutely.

Ken

This doesn't bother me because I quit watching all of NBCs lame shows !


"Karen Wheless" wrote in message
om...
Did anyone else get the Tivo message today about the NBC lineup? When I
turned on my Tivo this morning, the message came onto the screen
immediately, which surprised me. I don't remember the exact wording,
but it said something like "NBC has used unconventional start times for
many of their Thursday night shows, so check your To Do list and
Recording History to make sure you aren't missing anything".

I was pretty startled that Tivo would send out a message like that,
especially since it mentioned NBC directly. (Doesn't Tivo have some
kind of joint agreement with NBC?) It seemed like a criticism of NBC's
methods.

I think NBC is stupid for changing the ER start time to 9:59 (which
brings it into conflict with CSI, the #1 show on TV - how many Tivo
users will just cancel ER instead of missing CSI or setting up a manual
recording?) but I was even more surprised to see Tivo sending out a high
priority message that seemed pointedly critical of NBC.

Karen

* Bao H. Lammy Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo, on Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:01:37 -0500:
"Matt Ackeret" wrote
Karen Wheless wrote:
I think NBC is stupid for changing the ER start time to 9:59 (which
I guess I'm the only one defending this -- I've been defending it on
tivocommunity too.
As much as people complain about invalid guide data, here is NBC
*ACTUALLY GIVING* correct guide data. (or at least closer to correct).
I'm all for it -- it lets me get rid of the pre-pad on 'er'. (At least I
will try it once on the premiere.. if it cuts out any of the actual episode
and not just "previously on..", I'll go back to putting the pad back).
Hooray for NBC giving correct times!

No way. I'm not going to cheer this because their practice is
solely to screw up the ability to watch and/or record stuff on
other channels. Cheering this would be like cheering Microsoft
for using nonstandard web language on its sites but giving you
a free tool to use the nonstandard HTML. Wait...

LOL, Well put!
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"Joe Smith" wrote in message
et...

I'm glad that TiVo gave us this warning, but the ability
to record 95% of a conflicting show would be a lot better.

AMEN! You can complain about NBC, but IMHO Tivo's inability to schedule and
record partials or deal with overlaps in anything other than an
all-or-nothing manner is a serious weakness which allows networks to fsck
with their schedules and prevent people from switching networks mid-evening.