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Lone Ranger

Oh yes, a favourite of mine too, It was on on Saturday mornings in
the late 1950s, ISTR. There was also "Champion, the Wonder Horse".
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We musn't forget Skippy, the Bush Kangeroo must we?



I never saw that. When was it on?
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Late 60's/early 70's. Google it, there's a Wiki item.

Tick tick tick
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Tick Tick


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In message , Woody
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"John Hall" wrote in message
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In message , Woody
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In message , Woody
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Lone Ranger

Oh yes, a favourite of mine too, It was on on Saturday mornings in
the late 1950s, ISTR. There was also "Champion, the Wonder Horse".
--


We musn't forget Skippy, the Bush Kangeroo must we?



I never saw that. When was it on?

Late 60's/early 70's.

Too late for me. I was too old for children's TV by then.

Google it, there's a Wiki item.

I've heard of it, and vaguely know about it.

Tick tick tick
"What was that Skippy, Martha's fallen down the old mineshaft?"
Tick Tick



I can see the similarity to "Champion, TWH".
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that man can never learn anything from history."
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On Thu, 3 May 2018 08:01:33 +0100, "The Simpsons"
wrote:

You lot are younger than I thought.

Not noticed any mention of Billy Bean and His Funny Machine.
He built it to see what it would do.


Yes! I remember that. Did the machine not make collar studs, or
something equally random?

Anyway, it put me in mind of Michael Bentine and The Bumblies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNJeIX8y3Go

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On Fri, 04 May 2018 07:14:58 +0100, John J Armstrong
wrote:

You lot are younger than I thought.

Not noticed any mention of Billy Bean and His Funny Machine.
He built it to see what it would do.


Yes! I remember that. Did the machine not make collar studs, or
something equally random?

Anyway, it put me in mind of Michael Bentine and The Bumblies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNJeIX8y3Go

The only thing I remember from the Bumblies was their train set, which
run upside down on the ceiling, just like them. I daresay that would
have amounted to a special effect in those days, as it would probably
have required reversing scan coils in cameras because physically
mounting a 4.5" Image Orthicon camera upside down would be seriously
impractical. Some cameras were fitted with switches to reverse the
scan coils but there was a rule that we had to switch the beam current
off first to avoid the risk of burning the target, so it wasn't a
quick manoeuvre.

The Youtube clip that played immediately after this one (because
autoplay seems to be on by default) was one with Spike Milligan
playing a Pakistani Dalek, which I somehow doubt would ever get made
nowadays, as it would probably be called "politically incorrect", or
"hate speech" or "offensive". It would be pretty much guaranteed to
offend several of the factions that routinely seek to be offended. It
reminds me of another of Michael Bentine's recurring themes, those
miniature dioramas with little invisible people represented only by
voices and sound effects, and usually explosions. One memorable one
was about the IRA, the little voices had Irish accents and one by one
the miniature props were all blown up. It's been a long time since
anything like that could be made too.

Those were the days when it was assumed that people could separate
fantasy from reality and humour from evil intent. Today you can't even
teach a dog to raise its paw.

Rod.

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On Wed, 2 May 2018 14:01:24 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Robin Hood, William Tell, Popeye, Mr Edd, Beverly Hillbillies, Flintstones

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

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On Friday, 4 May 2018 08:56:57 UTC+1, Roderick Stewart wrote:
Today you can't even teach a dog to raise its paw.

You can, just not in response to Sieg Heil.

Owain

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On 03/05/2018 13:56, wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:06:23 UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
There was also "Champion, the Wonder Horse".

Which was back on again in the 1980s.

I'm disappointed no-one's yet mentioned Open University mathematics with wooden wheels and cranks to demonstrate sine waves.

Owain


And the Liverpool analogue tide calculator !

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On 04/05/2018 09:25, Scott wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:

Robin Hood, William Tell, Popeye, Mr Edd, Beverly Hillbillies, Flintstones

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

I too had wondered about the weakness and self-circular contrivance of that.

Perhaps Oscar could have used the line:

Doh - a deer, a female deer
Re - a drop of golden sun
Mi - a name I call myself
Fa - a long, long, way to run
So - a needle pulling thread
La - the Liverpool for "lad"
Te - a drink with jam and bread,
....which will bring us back to Do.


["Self-circular" - you could call a road that.]

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"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 04/05/2018 09:25, Scott wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:

Robin Hood, William Tell, Popeye, Mr Edd, Beverly Hillbillies,
Flintstones

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

I too had wondered about the weakness and self-circular contrivance of
that.

Perhaps Oscar could have used the line:

Doh - a deer, a female deer
Re - a drop of golden sun
Mi - a name I call myself
Fa - a long, long, way to run
So - a needle pulling thread
La - the Liverpool for "lad"
Te - a drink with jam and bread,
...which will bring us back to Do.

I have a confession. I learned the song long before I'd ever heard of the
do-re-mi musical system of notes. They were just random words (Doe, Ray, Me,
Far, Sew, La, Tea, Doe) and it wasn't until I was well into my teens that I
saw a reference in an old textbook about do-re-mi and the penny finally
dropped. It didn't help that our "music" lessons were more about getting us
to appreciate very highbrow classical music than about the science and logic
behind chords, chord progressions and why one key sounds subtly different to
another (because notes are not *exactly* 2 ^ (1/13) ratio apart). That would
have been far more interesting that the music teacher going into raptures
about Mahler's symphony or Das Lied Von Der Erde - Alby had a thing about
German composers and matronly contraltos with power-assisted voices.

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On Fri, 04 May 2018 09:25:06 +0100, Scott
wrote:

Robin Hood, William Tell, Popeye, Mr Edd, Beverly Hillbillies, Flintstones

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

Perhaps they checked the dictionary entry for "two" which says "one
more than one", and then "three" which says "one more than two", and a
few subsequent numbers, and then realised that it was what could be
called a precedent and they'd be wasting their time worrying about it.

Rod.

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On 04/05/2018 14:19, NY wrote:
"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 04/05/2018 09:25, Scott wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:

Robin Hood, William Tell, Popeye, Mr Edd, Beverly Hillbillies,
Flintstones

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

I too had wondered about the weakness and self-circular contrivance of
that.

Perhaps Oscar could have used the line:

Doh - a deer, a female deer
Re - a drop of golden sun
Mi - a name I call myself
Fa - a long, long, way to run
So - a needle pulling thread
La - the Liverpool for "lad"
Te - a drink with jam and bread,
...which will bring us back to Do.

I have a confession. I learned the song long before I'd ever heard of
the do-re-mi musical system of notes. They were just random words (Doe,
Ray, Me, Far, Sew, La, Tea, Doe) and it wasn't until I was well into my
teens that I saw a reference in an old textbook about do-re-mi and the
penny finally dropped. It didn't help that our "music" lessons were more
about getting us to appreciate very highbrow classical music than about
the science and logic behind chords, chord progressions and why one key
sounds subtly different to another (because notes are not *exactly* 2 ^
(1/13) ratio apart). That would have been far more interesting that the
music teacher going into raptures about Mahler's symphony or Das Lied
Von Der Erde - Alby had a thing about German composers and matronly
contraltos with power-assisted voices.

As I understand it (and I read this many decades ago), the syllables of
the sung scale (do-re-mi, etc) were not randomly chosen, but were the
actual fragments of word in a particular piece of written music meant to
be sung on those notes in a particular key (presumably C).

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On 04/05/2018 14:42, JNugent wrote:
On 04/05/2018 14:19, NY wrote:
"JNugent" wrote in message
...
On 04/05/2018 09:25, Scott wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:

Robin Hood, William Tell, Popeye, Mr Edd, Beverly Hillbillies,
Flintstones

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

I too had wondered about the weakness and self-circular contrivance
of that.

Perhaps Oscar could have used the line:

Doh - a deer, a female deer
Re - a drop of golden sun
Mi - a name I call myself
Fa - a long, long, way to run
So - a needle pulling thread
La - the Liverpool for "lad"
Te - a drink with jam and bread,
...which will bring us back to Do.

I have a confession. I learned the song long before I'd ever heard of
the do-re-mi musical system of notes. They were just random words
(Doe, Ray, Me, Far, Sew, La, Tea, Doe) and it wasn't until I was well
into my teens that I saw a reference in an old textbook about do-re-mi
and the penny finally dropped. It didn't help that our "music" lessons
were more about getting us to appreciate very highbrow classical music
than about the science and logic behind chords, chord progressions and
why one key sounds subtly different to another (because notes are not
*exactly* 2 ^ (1/13) ratio apart). That would have been far more
interesting that the music teacher going into raptures about Mahler's
symphony or Das Lied Von Der Erde - Alby had a thing about German
composers and matronly contraltos with power-assisted voices.

As I understand it (and I read this many decades ago), the syllables of
the sung scale (do-re-mi, etc) were not randomly chosen, but were the
actual fragments of word in a particular piece of written music meant to
be sung on those notes in a particular key (presumably C).

Found it (the first URL gives the lyric from which the single-syllable
versions were derived):

https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2015/03/04/sound-of-music-history-do-re-mi/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonic_sol-fa

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"JNugent" wrote in message
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As I understand it (and I read this many decades ago), the syllables of
the sung scale (do-re-mi, etc) were not randomly chosen, but were the
actual fragments of word in a particular piece of written music meant to
be sung on those notes in a particular key (presumably C).

Well I never knew that. I presume it wouldn't matter what key you sung the
song in, as long as you designated Do to be the same note in the song.

Ah yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge, under the heading Origin
(apart from the fact that the first note was ut rather than do).

And my "I presume" above assumes "movable do", rather than "fixed do" which
sounds very much the same as calling the notes by their real names A, B,...,
G.

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On 04/05/2018 14:31, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2018 09:25:06 +0100, Scott
wrote:

Robin Hood, William Tell, Popeye, Mr Edd, Beverly Hillbillies, Flintstones

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

Perhaps they checked the dictionary entry for "two" which says "one
more than one", and then "three" which says "one more than two", and a
few subsequent numbers, and then realised that it was what could be
called a precedent and they'd be wasting their time worrying about it.

Rod.

Now can someone please explain how to "sing through the night like a
lark who is learning to pray'?

I've tried but I can't seem to get it right.

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Graham. wrote:




Which brings us to my favourite Hangman clue, when I was about seven.

Australian children's TV series

T-- T------- A--------- o- t-- T------- T--


Talking about Australian productions does anyone remember “The Stranger”.
Plot was an alien arriving in a flying saucer looking for somewhere his
fellows people could move to .
In appearance the character looked no different from the Humans he met
though of course we are talking about Australians here.
I must have been impressed by the flying saucer as I made one out a variety
cheese box with some copper slate fixings as landing gear.

GH

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On Friday, 4 May 2018 14:00:51 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
And the Liverpool analogue tide calculator !

Damn, I missed that episode!

Owain

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On Wed, 2 May 2018 14:01:24 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

Robin Hood, William Tell, Popeye, Mr Edd, Beverly Hillbillies, Flintstones

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

I have pondered on that, many years ago, without result.
I did however improve on Ray; substituting shaft for drop, don't you
agree that's a better choice? I can't imagine what Oscar Hammerstein
was thinking ;-)

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On Fri, 04 May 2018 09:25:06 +0100, Scott
wrote:

Robin Hood, William Tell, Popeye, Mr Edd, Beverly Hillbillies, Flintstones

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

Perhaps they checked the dictionary entry for "two" which says "one
more than one", and then "three" which says "one more than two", and a
few subsequent numbers, and then realised that it was what could be
called a precedent and they'd be wasting their time worrying about it.

Could it be a comic device, and Hammerstein expected the Maria
character to deliver the line with an expression on her face implying
she was making the words up "on the hoof"? That would have solved his
problem. (Cue for another song).
--

Graham.
%Profound_observation%

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On 03/05/2018 11:33, Graham. wrote:


Yes indeed. Television was just what John Reith needed to ensure there
would be someone left to empty his bins.


Then various short-sighted politicians had the idea that they could
achieve that aim by allowing half the Third World to bring themselves
their backward cultural values to our shores.

Bill

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On Fri, 4 May 2018 14:19:22 +0100, "NY" wrote:

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

I too had wondered about the weakness and self-circular contrivance of
that.

Perhaps Oscar could have used the line:

Doh - a deer, a female deer
Re - a drop of golden sun
Mi - a name I call myself
Fa - a long, long, way to run
So - a needle pulling thread
La - the Liverpool for "lad"
Te - a drink with jam and bread,
...which will bring us back to Do.

I have a confession. I learned the song long before I'd ever heard of the
do-re-mi musical system of notes. They were just random words (Doe, Ray, Me,
Far, Sew, La, Tea, Doe) and it wasn't until I was well into my teens that I
saw a reference in an old textbook about do-re-mi and the penny finally
dropped.

In the days of LP sleeve notes, it was quite common for titles and
other info about a piece of muisic to be given in several languages
(because there was room to print it on a 12" sleeve, and why not, I
suppose), and you'd often see titles with the key of the music given
as something like "Concerto En Re Mineur Bwv 596", (meaning D minor)
so the notation still seems to be official, at least in French.

Rod.

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..
In the days of LP sleeve notes, it was quite common for titles and
other info about a piece of muisic to be given in several languages
(because there was room to print it on a 12" sleeve, and why not, I
suppose), and you'd often see titles with the key of the music given
as something like "Concerto En Re Mineur Bwv 596", (meaning D minor)
so the notation still seems to be official, at least in French.

Rod.

Its not that difficult to read the musical "bits" of a classical
performance in most all European languages;)..


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It's not much used nowadays, if at all, but 'tonic sol-fa' used to be
common in some fields, particularly hymns. My grandfather could only
play hymns, and could only read sol-fa, not clef notation. The
advantage of sol-fa is that it works in any key, so the same notation
can be used after you've chosen the key to suit the pitch you need.

Here's a sample of a hymn in sol-fa:
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2016/09/...eview/page/10/




On 2018-05-05 07:36:04 +0000, Roderick Stewart said:

On Fri, 4 May 2018 14:19:22 +0100, "NY" wrote:

I wonder how many man/woman hours were expended trying to think of a
better line for 'Do re me' in The Sound of Music than 'La - a note to
follow so'.

I too had wondered about the weakness and self-circular contrivance of
that.

Perhaps Oscar could have used the line:

Doh - a deer, a female deer
Re - a drop of golden sun
Mi - a name I call myself
Fa - a long, long, way to run
So - a needle pulling thread
La - the Liverpool for "lad"
Te - a drink with jam and bread,
...which will bring us back to Do.

I have a confession. I learned the song long before I'd ever heard of the
do-re-mi musical system of notes. They were just random words (Doe, Ray, Me,
Far, Sew, La, Tea, Doe) and it wasn't until I was well into my teens that I
saw a reference in an old textbook about do-re-mi and the penny finally
dropped.

In the days of LP sleeve notes, it was quite common for titles and
other info about a piece of muisic to be given in several languages
(because there was room to print it on a 12" sleeve, and why not, I
suppose), and you'd often see titles with the key of the music given
as something like "Concerto En Re Mineur Bwv 596", (meaning D minor)
so the notation still seems to be official, at least in French.

Rod.

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On 04/05/2018 22:12, wrote:
On Friday, 4 May 2018 14:00:51 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
And the Liverpool analogue tide calculator !

Damn, I missed that episode!

Owain


It was on Coast, and Nick Crane revisited it when he made
a parallel series about Coastal cities (AFAIK). Not sure
if iPlayer still has it. The OU might.

Machine had a big long cable with many wheels along it
rising up and down to simulate all the various analogue
inputs and one final chart recorder showing the daily
tides anywhere in the world.

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On 04/05/2018 22:12, wrote:
On Friday, 4 May 2018 14:00:51 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
And the Liverpool analogue tide calculator !

Damn, I missed that episode!

Owain


Can't find a link to Nick Cranes program, but this is
interesting :-

nora.nerc.ac.uk/id/eprint/513660/1/NOC_R%26C_56.pdf