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Afflicted by post-procedure pain I tire of the gradually brightening
ceiling and wearily put the telly on, at 7.50am, seeking diversion. BBC1
has a brown alpha-female (called 'nagger' apparently!) and a subservient
white male wimp. They introduce a silly but seemingly harmless item
about a dog that is pampered excessively. The dog's owners turn out to
be two homosexuals.
The next item is about a fishery owner who has banned Polish anglers.
Nothing is said about why he has felt the need to reduce his customer
base in this way, but there are many insinuations that he is simply racist.
I go to the bathroom. When I get back the telly is saying that the BBC
is going to reduce Christian programming and increase that of 'other
religions'. I wonder if this means Buddhists and Sikhs will get a look in.
It's time for the local news. The newsreader is attractive and has a
lovely smile, and is black. There's an interview with a gay man. The
story about the anti-Polish fishery man is featured, despite it being in
Oxfordshire and this programme being Look North from Leeds.
I turn the telly off and play some music. I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Bill

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:35:08 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Comprehensive coverage on the BBC website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-42408477

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On 20/12/2017 08:35, Bill Wright wrote:
Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Don't they miss most of the world news? It's becoming more like 'drop
the dead donkey' every day.

I find it more disturbing that when watching the first minute of a news
program when they give the headlines and I think to myself it's another
day when they are going to report nothing of interest and the crap they
are reporting has been dumbed down to make it light entertainment.

There seem to be a lot or journalist to journalist interviews with a
spectacular lack of facts - just speculation.


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On 12/20/2017 8:39 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:35:08 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Comprehensive coverage on the BBC website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-42408477

he was no angel...but he is now ......

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me ...

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radio has better pictures ......
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me ...

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In message , Bob Eager
writes
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:35:08 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Comprehensive coverage on the BBC website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-42408477

Not sure I agree with Bill's analysis but I have criticised what I call
BBC socio engineering. Basically where they insert non news items into
the morning *wake up to get up* slot.

What on earth have choirs to do with anything other than programme
padding?


--
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In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 20/12/2017 08:35, Bill Wright wrote:
Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Don't they miss most of the world news? It's becoming more like 'drop
the dead donkey' every day.

I find it more disturbing that when watching the first minute of a news
program when they give the headlines and I think to myself it's another
day when they are going to report nothing of interest and the crap they
are reporting has been dumbed down to make it light entertainment.

There seem to be a lot or journalist to journalist interviews with a
spectacular lack of facts - just speculation.

lets go back to the 1920 when the announcer once said "`There is no news
today".

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Facebook Snapchat etc, to be worried about the trivial stuff like work.
Brian

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Now half my message was eaten.
What I said was that there are apparently nobody or bodies out there even
thinking about the content, they just make it fit the slot and don't bother
about the bias or otherwise or obvious questions, just want to get back to
Twitter or facebook or snapchat. Work is just an unwelcome interruption.
Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Afflicted by post-procedure pain I tire of the gradually brightening
ceiling and wearily put the telly on, at 7.50am, seeking diversion. BBC1
has a brown alpha-female (called 'nagger' apparently!) and a subservient
white male wimp. They introduce a silly but seemingly harmless item about
a dog that is pampered excessively. The dog's owners turn out to be two
homosexuals.
The next item is about a fishery owner who has banned Polish anglers.
Nothing is said about why he has felt the need to reduce his customer base
in this way, but there are many insinuations that he is simply racist.
I go to the bathroom. When I get back the telly is saying that the BBC is
going to reduce Christian programming and increase that of 'other
religions'. I wonder if this means Buddhists and Sikhs will get a look in.
It's time for the local news. The newsreader is attractive and has a
lovely smile, and is black. There's an interview with a gay man. The story
about the anti-Polish fishery man is featured, despite it being in
Oxfordshire and this programme being Look North from Leeds.
I turn the telly off and play some music. I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation at
100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent victim in
that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the accident
was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been released from
prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed that.

Bill

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On 20/12/2017 09:06, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 12/20/2017 8:39 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:35:08 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Â* I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Comprehensive coverage on the BBC website.

Â* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-42408477

Late with the truth as usual. But at least they finally reported it.
There's hope yet.

Bill

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Afflicted by post-procedure pain I tire of the gradually brightening
ceiling and wearily put the telly on, at 7.50am, seeking diversion.
BBC1 has a brown alpha-female (called 'nagger' apparently!) and a
subservient white male wimp. They introduce a silly but seemingly
harmless item about a dog that is pampered excessively. The dog's
owners turn out to be two homosexuals.
The next item is about a fishery owner who has banned Polish
anglers. Nothing is said about why he has felt the need to reduce
his customer base in this way, but there are many insinuations that
he is simply racist.
I go to the bathroom. When I get back the telly is saying that the
BBC is going to reduce Christian programming and increase that of
'other religions'. I wonder if this means Buddhists and Sikhs will
get a look in.
It's time for the local news. The newsreader is attractive and has a
lovely smile, and is black. There's an interview with a gay man. The
story about the anti-Polish fishery man is featured, despite it
being in Oxfordshire and this programme being Look North from Leeds.
I turn the telly off and play some music. I idly look at the BBC
news on my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in
Birmingham. It seems that "It is not known what caused the crash",
and there are no details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the
central reservation at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on.
However the innocent victim in that car is identified as a
hard-working Asian with a large family. Strange that yesterday's
papers said that the car that caused the accident was driven by an
Asian drug baron who had recently been released from prison
following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed that.


We are getting to much the same opinion Bill, whether it is BBC
Breakfast or Sky News - who are forever banging on about single use
plastics and the alleged damage it is doing.

My apologies if this is a repeat, but I saw recently that the ASA has
decreed that adverts can no longer show a woman doing household chores
such as cleaning or washing up, and that all families shown (two
parent/two children-type) must either be all black or mixed race with
a black father/white mother, never the other way around. Now I know
about it I spot it every time!

I saw yesterday that non-indigenous (i.e. white British) peoples
account for only 14% of the UK population but provide well over 40% of
those in jail.

I see this morning that the BBC is to broadcast more religion but it
will be at the expense of Christianity.

Aligned with your comments it does beg the question of what the world
and especially this country is coming to, assisted of course by our
dear BBC and their "Britain only exists within the M25" viewpoint.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

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On 20/12/2017 09:44, Woody wrote:

Aligned with your comments it does beg the question of what the world
and especially this country is coming to, assisted of course by our
dear BBC and their "Britain only exists within the M25" viewpoint.

What a pity that more people don't realise that much of the broadcast
media is pulling the wool over their eyes. Of course for the young it's
always been the same so they have nothing to compare it with.

Bill

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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 12/20/2017 8:39 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:35:08 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Comprehensive coverage on the BBC website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-42408477

he was no angel...but he is now ......

Nope, being burnt to a crisp. Birmingham Fried Asian.

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On 20/12/2017 08:35, Bill Wright wrote:
Afflicted by post-procedure pain I tire of the gradually brightening
ceiling and wearily put the telly on, at 7.50am, seeking diversion. BBC1
has a brown alpha-female (called 'nagger' apparently!) and a subservient
white male wimp. They introduce a silly but seemingly harmless item
about a dog that is pampered excessively. The dog's owners turn out to
be two homosexuals.
The next item is about a fishery owner who has banned Polish anglers.
Nothing is said about why he has felt the need to reduce his customer
base in this way, but there are many insinuations that he is simply racist.
I go to the bathroom. When I get back the telly is saying that the BBC
is going to reduce Christian programming and increase that of 'other
religions'. I wonder if this means Buddhists and Sikhs will get a look in.
It's time for the local news. The newsreader is attractive and has a
lovely smile, and is black. There's an interview with a gay man. The
story about the anti-Polish fishery man is featured, despite it being in
Oxfordshire and this programme being Look North from Leeds.
I turn the telly off and play some music. I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Bill

Where did you read about "the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on"?

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
fflicted by post-procedure pain I tire of the gradually brightening
ceiling and wearily put the telly on, at 7.50am, seeking diversion. BBC1
has a brown alpha-female (called 'nagger' apparently!) and a subservient
white male wimp. They introduce a silly but seemingly harmless item
about a dog that is pampered excessively. The dog's owners turn out to
be two homosexuals.

Have you only got BBC1 where you live? Very odd considering your job.

Generally, if I don't like a programme I look for something else. Or even
something I recorded earlier.

Because I realise programme makers don't make stuff just for me.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On 20/12/2017 10:34, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
fflicted by post-procedure pain I tire of the gradually brightening
ceiling and wearily put the telly on, at 7.50am, seeking diversion. BBC1
has a brown alpha-female (called 'nagger' apparently!) and a subservient
white male wimp. They introduce a silly but seemingly harmless item
about a dog that is pampered excessively. The dog's owners turn out to
be two homosexuals.

Have you only got BBC1 where you live? Very odd considering your job.

Yes it's very strange. I need an aerial man I think.


Generally, if I don't like a programme I look for something else. Or even
something I recorded earlier.

My complaint isn't about what was on at that moment, it was about the
sort of liberal leftist guff always being on. Why should I buy a TV
licence just to have this weird mindset given such dominance?

Because I realise programme makers don't make stuff just for me.

Well no, it'd just be Marxist stuff I expect.

Bill

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On 12/20/2017 10:02 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 12/20/2017 8:39 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:35:08 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Â* I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent
victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Comprehensive coverage on the BBC website.

Â* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-42408477

he was no angel...but he is now ......

Nope, being burnt to a crisp. Birmingham Fried Asian.

straight to hell...no 52 virgins for him ...

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me ...

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On 20/12/2017 11:53, Jethro_uk wrote:

Last week for two hours, the BBC News front page managed to have
absolutely nothing whatsoever about Brexit. Nothing. I actually saved the
page*. Not even a link.

I think it has become necessary to use a wide variety of news sources
and apply critical thought to everything. It's terrible that we can't
believe the BBC anymore.

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:

The next item is about a fishery owner who has banned Polish anglers.

It seems to be at least eight years since he erected his sign

https://www.anglingtimes.co.uk/fishing-news/2009/scottish-fishery-boss-court-case-could-open-floodgates

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On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 11:59:14 UTC, wrote:
On 20/12/2017 11:53, Jethro_uk wrote:

Last week for two hours, the BBC News front page managed to have
absolutely nothing whatsoever about Brexit. Nothing. I actually saved the
page*. Not even a link.

I think it has become necessary to use a wide variety of news sources
and apply critical thought to everything. It's terrible that we can't
believe the BBC anymore.

The truth is left wing.




Bill

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On 20/12/2017 08:35, Bill Wright wrote:

The next item is about a fishery owner who has banned Polish anglers.
Nothing is said about why he has felt the need to reduce his customer
base in this way, but there are many insinuations that he is simply racist.

If banning someone based on them being Polish or east European is not
racist, what is?

If he'd simply said he had the right to refuse access without giving a
reason, he'd have got away with it.

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On 20/12/2017 09:44, Woody wrote:


My apologies if this is a repeat, but I saw recently that the ASA has
decreed that adverts can no longer show a woman doing household chores
such as cleaning or washing up, and that all families shown (two
parent/two children-type) must either be all black or mixed race with
a black father/white mother, never the other way around. Now I know
about it I spot it every time!


Any idea where you saw this? I was horrified so I thought I would do
some research on the ASA. They have indeed done a study

https://www.asa.org.uk/asset/FA0CDD1...892D70C53C5E7/

and are proposing new rules but one of the Key findings of the report is

It would be inappropriate and unrealistic to prevent ads
from, for instance, depicting a woman cleaning,

but
new standards on gender stereotypes might elaborate
on the types of treatments that might be problematic
— for example:
An ad which depicts family members creating mess
while a woman has sole responsibility for cleaning it up.
An ad that suggests an activity is inappropriate for
a girl because it is stereotypically associated with boys
or vice versa.
An ad that features a man trying and failing to undertake
simple parental or household tasks.

So it looks like someone somewhere is misreporting what the ASA has ruled


I could not find any info about ethnic origin of families.





--
Chris B (News)

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On 20/12/2017 09:06, alan_m wrote:
On 20/12/2017 08:35, Bill Wright wrote:
Funny how the BBC missed that.

Don't they miss most of the world news?

when we're travelling we try BBC World News to catch up on events at
home. There's news of practically everywhere but the UK. That's when
there is news. Most of it is magazine style items.

We are more informed if we watch CNN. CNN!!

--
F

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On 20/12/2017 11:59, Bill Wright wrote:
On 20/12/2017 11:53, Jethro_uk wrote:

Last week for two hours, the BBC News front page managed to have
absolutely nothing whatsoever about Brexit. Nothing. I actually saved the
page*. Not even a link.

I think it has become necessary to use a wide variety of news sources
and apply critical thought to everything. It's terrible that we can't
believe the BBC anymore.

Bill

I agree. But if this is the case then what is the point of the
(allegedly unbiased) BBC news coverage?

There isn't...

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I'm not sure I agree with some of what you say there. However there does
seem to be a culture of attempting not to even upset anyone, which in turn
seems to have resulted in everyone being offended by the lack of accuracy
consistency and indeed fairness to public views.
I personally would rather hear that some drongo thinks all blindies who
look OK are not blind as it seems most people do, than have new terns
suggested for us, like differently abled etc, rather than blind as a bat.
There comes a time when people have to learn the world is not equal and no
amount of positive imagery to the contrary will change the real position.
Some people are racist, some are just selfish and many just do not think
before they speak, but I'd rather know that than have veiled mis reporting.
Brian

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"Woody" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Afflicted by post-procedure pain I tire of the gradually brightening
ceiling and wearily put the telly on, at 7.50am, seeking diversion. BBC1
has a brown alpha-female (called 'nagger' apparently!) and a subservient
white male wimp. They introduce a silly but seemingly harmless item about
a dog that is pampered excessively. The dog's owners turn out to be two
homosexuals.
The next item is about a fishery owner who has banned Polish anglers.
Nothing is said about why he has felt the need to reduce his customer
base in this way, but there are many insinuations that he is simply
racist.
I go to the bathroom. When I get back the telly is saying that the BBC is
going to reduce Christian programming and increase that of 'other
religions'. I wonder if this means Buddhists and Sikhs will get a look
in.
It's time for the local news. The newsreader is attractive and has a
lovely smile, and is black. There's an interview with a gay man. The
story about the anti-Polish fishery man is featured, despite it being in
Oxfordshire and this programme being Look North from Leeds.
I turn the telly off and play some music. I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been released
from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed that.


We are getting to much the same opinion Bill, whether it is BBC Breakfast
or Sky News - who are forever banging on about single use plastics and the
alleged damage it is doing.

My apologies if this is a repeat, but I saw recently that the ASA has
decreed that adverts can no longer show a woman doing household chores
such as cleaning or washing up, and that all families shown (two
parent/two children-type) must either be all black or mixed race with a
black father/white mother, never the other way around. Now I know about it
I spot it every time!

I saw yesterday that non-indigenous (i.e. white British) peoples account
for only 14% of the UK population but provide well over 40% of those in
jail.

I see this morning that the BBC is to broadcast more religion but it will
be at the expense of Christianity.

Aligned with your comments it does beg the question of what the world and
especially this country is coming to, assisted of course by our dear BBC
and their "Britain only exists within the M25" viewpoint.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:53:52 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

On 20/12/2017 09:44, Woody wrote:

Aligned with your comments it does beg the question of what the world
and especially this country is coming to, assisted of course by our
dear BBC and their "Britain only exists within the M25" viewpoint.

What a pity that more people don't realise that much of the broadcast
media is pulling the wool over their eyes. Of course for the young it's
always been the same so they have nothing to compare it with.

Not that I agree with all of your views on the state of the world and
Britain in general, but you only have to keep in mind the adage
(attributed to PT Barnum[1]) that "There's one born every minute." to
properly appreciate what the business of Radio and TV broadcasting is all
about (commercial advertising particularly).

All such "broadcasting to the nation" is propaganda of one sort or
another, even "Pure Entertainment" (and not just that used as "bait" to
hook "The Product" into watching the commercial propaganda of adverts by
the commercial TV channels).

Unless you've got plenty of time to spare on following up claims made by
any of this propaganda (news, advertising etc.), you're left to rely on
your own good sense of cynicism.

Way back in the 70s when the propaganda about the dangers of passive
smoking started to appear on buses, couched in terms of how many double
decker bus's worth were dying from the effects of passive smoking each
year, my question to that statement was, "Oh yes! And, pray tell me, how
many people are dying as a result of the pollution generated by all those
buses?" long before "Particulate Emissions" became a "Thing".

[1] Rightly or wrongly; either a misquote or someone else's quote.

--
Johnny B Good

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On 20/12/17 11:59, Bill Wright wrote:
On 20/12/2017 11:53, Jethro_uk wrote:

Last week for two hours, the BBC News front page managed to have
absolutely nothing whatsoever about Brexit. Nothing. I actually saved the
page*. Not even a link.

I think it has become necessary to use a wide variety of news sources
and apply critical thought to everything. It's terrible that we can't
believe the BBC anymore.


in 1980 I emigtated to S afroca for three years, where the staggering
propagnada show of the SABC was so obviuous it wasnt ven argued over.

Omn my return in 1983, I realised the BBC was no different, just more
subtle at it.


Bill


--
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
...I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

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On 20/12/2017 11:59, Jimbo ... wrote:

straight to hell...no 52 virgins for him ...


I was really, really angry to hear that this was no ordinary accident
but some complete **** racing on the public roads and proving that he
was a crap driver. Sadly, he didn't just remove himself from the gene pool.

I knew somebody who fancied himself as a racing driver. He died on a
race track, proving himself crap at it, but doing so in the right place.
He had an amazing car. A straight six with a separate carb on each
intake - I have no idea how he balanced them. It sounded incredible when
he came out of a corner and opened up the throttle.

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On 20/12/2017 09:43, Bill Wright wrote:
On 20/12/2017 09:06, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 12/20/2017 8:39 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:35:08 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Â* I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent
victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Comprehensive coverage on the BBC website.

Â* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-42408477

Late with the truth as usual. But at least they finally reported it.
There's hope yet.

Bill

How late it was reported yesterday.

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pamela wrote:

I'm all for tolerating minorities and leaving them to do what they
want but I can't see why minority beliefs need to be paraded as
normal.

Being a member of an ethnic or sexual minority is not a belief.
Your idiotic and bigoted ideas are, though.

--
Bill Findlay

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On 20/12/17 22:55, pamela wrote:
On 18:17 20 Dec 2017, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 20/12/17 11:59, Bill Wright wrote:
On 20/12/2017 11:53, Jethro_uk wrote:

Last week for two hours, the BBC News front page managed to
have absolutely nothing whatsoever about Brexit. Nothing. I
actually saved the page*. Not even a link.

I think it has become necessary to use a wide variety of news
sources and apply critical thought to everything. It's terrible
that we can't believe the BBC anymore.


in 1980 I emigtated to S afroca for three years, where the
staggering propagnada show of the SABC was so obviuous it wasnt
ven argued over.

Presumably you no longer consider yourself a true Brit after
completely abandoning the UK for several years.

Do you now have a South African passport?

Define "true Brit".

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On 20/12/17 23:53, Bill Findlay wrote:
pamela wrote:

I'm all for tolerating minorities and leaving them to do what they
want but I can't see why minority beliefs need to be paraded as
normal.

Being a member of an ethnic or sexual minority is not a belief.
Your idiotic and bigoted ideas are, though.

So you supported the white minorities in Africa?

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On 21/12/2017 06:05, Richard wrote:

Define "true Brit".

It is a well known film title suffering from a typo

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In article ,
pamela wrote:
For example, we all known homosexuality is not normal but we
generally tolerate the aberration.

Care to define normal? If brown eyes are the most common does that make
those with green not normal?

Defining sexuality as normal or not would be fine if sex was only for
producing offspring. As some religious nutters would have you believe.

--
*Young at heart -- slightly older in other places

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
in 1980 I emigtated to S afroca for three years, where the staggering
propagnada show of the SABC was so obviuous it wasnt ven argued over.

Omn my return in 1983, I realised the BBC was no different, just more
subtle at it.

Yes. Stick to the Express for your unbiased news.

--
*Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:59:16 +0000, "Jimbo ..."
wrote:

* I idly look at the BBC news on
my phone. I read about the recent bad road accident in Birmingham. It
seems that "It is not known what caused the crash", and there are no
details about the 'men' in the car that crossed the central reservation
at 100mph and hit the other vehicle head on. However the innocent
victim
in that car is identified as a hard-working Asian with a large family.
Strange that yesterday's papers said that the car that caused the
accident was driven by an Asian drug baron who had recently been
released from prison following a 120mph chase. Funny how the BBC missed
that.

Comprehensive coverage on the BBC website.

* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-42408477

he was no angel...but he is now ......

Nope, being burnt to a crisp. Birmingham Fried Asian.

straight to hell...no 52 virgins for him ...

Apparently they get a fast track to heaven if they kill themselves in
the process of killing unbelievers. Even if they have not been
particularly devout in their religious observances during life, the
right kind of self-elimination can negate the effects of this neglect.
However, in this case the killing of unbelievers may not have been the
primary objective so I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

Rod.

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On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:59:39 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

I think it has become necessary to use a wide variety of news sources
and apply critical thought to everything. It's terrible that we can't
believe the BBC anymore.

Yes, Youtube is probably my favourite source of information on just
about everything now. However I am old and cynical and can make a
reasonable attempt to separate the interesting the valuable and the
true from the morass of utter garbage that accompanies it. Goodness
knows how the young manage to learn anything these days and to discern
which of it is worth knowing.

Rod.

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On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:07:46 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

For example, we all known homosexuality is not normal but we
generally tolerate the aberration.

Care to define normal? If brown eyes are the most common does that make
those with green not normal?

Defining sexuality as normal or not would be fine if sex was only for
producing offspring. As some religious nutters would have you believe.

The dictionary defines normal-

[...]
3. Constituting or conforming to a type or standard; regular, usual,
typical; ordinary, conventional. Also, physically or mentally sound,
healthy. E19.
[...]
b. Heterosexual. E20.

(From the OED)

Rod.

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On 20/12/17 23:53, Bill Findlay wrote:
pamela wrote:

I'm all for tolerating minorities and leaving them to do what they
want but I can't see why minority beliefs need to be paraded as
normal.

Being a member of an ethnic or sexual minority is not a belief.

He never said it was.

He siad 'minoroty beliefs' and to those actually educated in this
country, that means 'beliefs belonging to a minority' e.g. that
'socialism can actually be made to work' etc. etc.


Your idiotic and bigoted ideas are, though.

How about the idiotic and bigoted ideas of Islamic minorities though?




--
The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

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On 21/12/2017 13:26, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:22:45 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

Apparently they get a fast track to heaven if they kill themselves in
the process of killing unbelievers. Even if they have not been
particularly devout in their religious observances during life, the
right kind of self-elimination can negate the effects of this neglect.
However, in this case the killing of unbelievers may not have been the
primary objective so I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

At one time Christians became saints for similar reasons.

Christians from Constantine onwards have aimed to sin all their lives
before repenting just before dying, wiping out all their sins.

--
Max Demian