How the west was won
 

Superb 1962 film on BBC2 today. Interestingly it was occasionally
possible to see the joins between the three Cinerama pictures. But
mostly it wasn't. How did they do that? I don't know which restored
version the BBC used, but the result was breathtaking. It makes a
pleasant change from some films shown on TV, in which the technical
quality has been dire. Some of the old monochrome British films were
superbly sharp and with beautiful lighting, yet when shown on TV (on HD)
all that fine detail has been lost.

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red Indians
presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be allowed
nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC narrative.

Oh, and I could see lots of modern tyre tracks...

Bill

How the west was won
 

Yes I think they did a similar job on 2001 some time ago. However i thought
that at some point Cinerama was projected from a single projector using one
of those weird lenses they use for wide screen but more so.
At some point I suppose they either shot them in three sections or did not,
and I assume that depending which stock was used to creat the tv version is
what governs the joins.




As for the Injuns, yes, I simply cannot see why people get worried. these
are what we might call period pieces and reflect the common view of the time
it was made.
One of the reason why Disneys' Song of the South is not very often seen on
TV is this PC thing of 'darkies' and all of that minstrel stuff.
Other casualties of this are Black and White Minstral show
Showboat and many more musicals and plays.

The odd thing is that when you talk to people of similar race today, this
sort of thing is hardly at the top of their agenda, so who are these pc
folk?

I'm not offended by blind people being called blinks, but would use the word
Cripple in some circumstances, but you should not use the word cripple to
mean a disabled person now, not cos its wrong really but it labels folk too
much.
I do take the view though that differently abled is just madness, sso one
has to just take things as they come.
Brian

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Superb 1962 film on BBC2 today. Interestingly it was occasionally possible
to see the joins between the three Cinerama pictures. But mostly it
wasn't. How did they do that? I don't know which restored version the BBC
used, but the result was breathtaking. It makes a pleasant change from
some films shown on TV, in which the technical quality has been dire. Some
of the old monochrome British films were superbly sharp and with beautiful
lighting, yet when shown on TV (on HD) all that fine detail has been lost.

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red Indians
presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be allowed
nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC narrative.

Oh, and I could see lots of modern tyre tracks...

Bill

How the west was won
 

On 05/06/2016 15:13, Bill Wright wrote:
Superb 1962 film on BBC2 today. Interestingly it was occasionally
possible to see the joins between the three Cinerama pictures. But
mostly it wasn't. How did they do that? I don't know which restored
version the BBC used, but the result was breathtaking. It makes a
pleasant change from some films shown on TV, in which the technical
quality has been dire. Some of the old monochrome British films were
superbly sharp and with beautiful lighting, yet when shown on TV (on HD)
all that fine detail has been lost.

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red Indians
presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be allowed
nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC narrative.

Oh, and I could see lots of modern tyre tracks...

Bill

and of course the marauding whites and other colours from around the
world were as well.

How the west was won
 

Bill Wright wrote:

it was occasionally possible to see the joins between the three
Cinerama pictures. But mostly it wasn't. How did they do that?

I think we discussed it in u.t.b last time it was broadcast ...

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.tech.broadcast/FzLPG3O9MP8/uOGDowvXVYwJ

How the west was won
 

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:13:31 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red Indians
presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be allowed
nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC narrative.


I hate modern PC as much as you, but I don't think it's PC to say that
native Americans* aka Red Indians were virtually wiped out by
colonists from Europe who stole their land and their food. We know
that happened, so we shouldn't be ashamed to admit it.

*they weren't actually Americans of course, they had their own names
for their tribes and lands.

How the west was won
 

On 05/06/2016 15:13, Bill Wright wrote:

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red Indians
presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be allowed
nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC narrative.

What is PC about portraying the truth?


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How the west was won
 

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:34:03 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red Indians
presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be allowed
nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC narrative.

What is PC about portraying the truth?

In essence, nothing, but it's difficult with politics and social
history because political truth depends on who you are.

Rod

How the west was won
 

Bill Wright wrote:

Superb 1962 film on BBC2 today. Interestingly it was occasionally
possible to see the joins between the three Cinerama pictures. But
mostly it wasn't. How did they do that? I don't know which
restored
version the BBC used, but the result was breathtaking. It makes a
pleasant change from some films shown on TV, in which the
technical
quality has been dire. Some of the old monochrome British films
were
superbly sharp and with beautiful lighting, yet when shown on TV
(on HD)
all that fine detail has been lost.

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red
Indians
presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be allowed
nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC narrative.

Oh, and I could see lots of modern tyre tracks...

Bill

Tyre tracks is that all! In Ben Hur they had an eight wheel vehicle
at top right the first time I saw it. It wasn't there the second
time. Probably drove it away. :)

How the west was won
 

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:42:04 +0100
Andy Burns wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:

it was occasionally possible to see the joins between the three
Cinerama pictures. But mostly it wasn't. How did they do that?

I think we discussed it in u.t.b last time it was broadcast ...

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.tech.broadcast/FzLPG3O9MP8/uOGDowvXVYwJ


When I was a projectionist at university, a Cinerama film to us was
just a wide-screen film. One evening, we had to use the smaller screen
hall for a Cinerama cowboy film, maybe even How the West was Won, and
so to reduce the image width, we just put a couple of record albums to
the sides of the projection window. The missing image was projected
onto the albums instead of the screen. It was amusing to see the
audience move their heads to follow horse-riders to the edge of the
screen, to see nothing happening, but to hear action.

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Davey.

How the west was won
 

Pinnerite wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

Superb 1962 film on BBC2 today. Interestingly it was occasionally
possible to see the joins between the three Cinerama pictures. But
mostly it wasn't. How did they do that? I don't know which restored
version the BBC used, but the result was breathtaking. It makes a
pleasant change from some films shown on TV, in which the technical
quality has been dire. Some of the old monochrome British films were
superbly sharp and with beautiful lighting, yet when shown on TV (on
HD) all that fine detail has been lost.

In 'How the west was won' it was also interesting to see the Red
Indians presented as marauding hoards of savages. That wouldn't be
allowed nowadays of course. Nowadays history has to fit the PC
narrative.

Oh, and I could see lots of modern tyre tracks...

Bill

Tyre tracks is that all! In Ben Hur they had an eight wheel vehicle
at top right the first time I saw it. It wasn't there the second
time. Probably drove it away. :)

I actually did see the little red car going up the hill in a Ben Hur clip
years ago. Seems the clip has been removed.