Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

On 28/10/2015 18:37, Chris wrote:



Perhaps they thought hard-working aerial-rigging families in the
Northern Powerhouse would welcome the 4G filter fitting work?


In the whole of my 45 years in the trade never once did a government or
a large organisation do anything whatsoever to ease the lot of the
self-employed sole trader. Quite the opposite in fact. They decide what
they're going to do and do it, and ******** to the ordinary trader and
his customers.

Bill

Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

On 28/10/2015 23:00, Robin wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
Though of course who decided it was the top end of the UHF
band that had to be sold off, and not the bottom end ;-)

I thought that was something to do with the physics of 800MHz compared
with the lower channels but as my physics was developed at the same time
as the Lancia Beta and has lasted just as well ... :(


To be honest, it's good riddance to the top end of UHF. We had C4 on Ch
66 here (with BBC1/2/ITV down at 39/42/45) and it was sometimes a PITA
to get C4 noise free, without overloading on the other three.

Swings and roundabouts though, the bottom end is far more susceptible to
impulse noise, and is affected by weather related reception 'lifts' more
than the other end.


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:41:09 +0000, Davey wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:17:05 -0000 "Norman Wells"
wrote:

"Brian-Gaff" wrote in message
...

Well, maybe everyone got a dish instead or is busy watching sstuff on
the internet. I was just channel hoping last night, not much worth
watching at all, or lots of repeats.

I like the idea of channel hoping. It sums the activity up pretty
well.


That is a good example of Serendipity. Well done Brian!
All that needs to happen now is that the phrase makes it into the OED.

Back in the days of analogue TV, channel *hopping* was an effective (and
mercifully brief and productive) way to determine if there was anything
worth watching at any particular moment in time before resorting to a
published TV listing (TV magazine or evening paper).

These days, such an exercise is a rather dreary trudge through 30 or
more channels of crap which could easily consume another 10 or 15 minutes
of your life that you're never going to get back. Most of us, having
tried to recreate that analogue channel hopping experience, soon abandon
any repeat attempts and resort to checking out the epg. Scanning the
guide being only marginally swifter on most TV sets IME thus far and yet
just as tediously depressing.

Digital TV broadcasting demands a more planned approach to scheduling
your evening's TV viewing (or, in my case, the week's recording
schedule). The modern digital broadcasting system effectively precludes
the spontaneously casual quick flick through the channels approach to
finding a programme that looks interesting enough to hold your attention.

I may not be the typical TV viewer but I suspect most, especially those
that have invested in a PVR, who, like me, value their time, rarely watch
live TV, choosing instead to schedule what their PVR will capture for
later viewing at a more convenient time of their own choosing with the
added bonus in the case of commercial broadcasts of being able to skip
past the adverts and unnecessary continuity crap.

The nation's viewing habits have been distorted out of all recognition
with how analogue TV used to be viewed with the art of channel hopping
being the most notable casualty in this age of digital TV broadcasting.

--
Johnny B Good

Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

"Johnny B Good" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:41:09 +0000, Davey wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:17:05 -0000 "Norman Wells"

wrote:

"Brian-Gaff" wrote in message
...

Well, maybe everyone got a dish instead or is busy watching
sstuff on
the internet. I was just channel hoping last night, not much
worth
watching at all, or lots of repeats.

I like the idea of channel hoping. It sums the activity up pretty
well.


That is a good example of Serendipity. Well done Brian!
All that needs to happen now is that the phrase makes it into the
OED.

Back in the days of analogue TV, channel *hopping* was an effective
(and
mercifully brief and productive) way to determine if there was
anything
worth watching at any particular moment in time before resorting to
a
published TV listing (TV magazine or evening paper).

These days, such an exercise is a rather dreary trudge through 30 or
more channels of crap which could easily consume another 10 or 15
minutes
of your life that you're never going to get back. Most of us, having
tried to recreate that analogue channel hopping experience, soon
abandon
any repeat attempts and resort to checking out the epg. Scanning the
guide being only marginally swifter on most TV sets IME thus far and
yet
just as tediously depressing.

Digital TV broadcasting demands a more planned approach to
scheduling
your evening's TV viewing (or, in my case, the week's recording
schedule). The modern digital broadcasting system effectively
precludes
the spontaneously casual quick flick through the channels approach
to
finding a programme that looks interesting enough to hold your
attention.

I may not be the typical TV viewer but I suspect most, especially
those
that have invested in a PVR, who, like me, value their time, rarely
watch
live TV, choosing instead to schedule what their PVR will capture
for
later viewing at a more convenient time of their own choosing with
the
added bonus in the case of commercial broadcasts of being able to
skip
past the adverts and unnecessary continuity crap.

The nation's viewing habits have been distorted out of all
recognition
with how analogue TV used to be viewed with the art of channel
hopping
being the most notable casualty in this age of digital TV
broadcasting.



....and how many of us have nearly full PVR drives of progs we have
never got around to watching?


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

"Johnny B Good" wrote in message
...

I may not be the typical TV viewer but I suspect most, especially those
that have invested in a PVR, who, like me, value their time, rarely watch
live TV, choosing instead to schedule what their PVR will capture for
later viewing at a more convenient time of their own choosing with the
added bonus in the case of commercial broadcasts of being able to skip
past the adverts and unnecessary continuity crap.

It's an interesting psychological thing. I use my PVR to record programmes I would
have watched had I been able. But they more often than not then sit on the hard
disk for a long time, and frequently get deleted without being watched at all.

I know this is going to happen, but still dutifully set the PVR. Why?

It's even worse if I archive something out to DVD to tidy up the hard disk. That's
usually a film I always meant to see but couldn't set aside the couple of hours it
needs, which is more often than not. Once archived, though, it never brings itself
to my attention because it's no longer on a visible menu. Consequently, it never
gets watched at all unless, that is, it comes round again live when, remarkably, I
find I do have a couple of hours to watch it in, so I do.

Am I alone in all this? Or should we set up a self-help group?

Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 01:52:17 GMT, Johnny B Good
wrote:

I may not be the typical TV viewer but I suspect most, especially those
that have invested in a PVR, who, like me, value their time, rarely watch
live TV, choosing instead to schedule what their PVR will capture for
later viewing at a more convenient time of their own choosing with the
added bonus in the case of commercial broadcasts of being able to skip
past the adverts and unnecessary continuity crap.

Same here, and if a programme becomes really boring, it's possible to
spin through it at one of several fast-forward speeds to see if
anything interesting happens.

I've kept my older PVR for the sake of programme clashes, and because
it can also record on DVDs, but I rarely use it because it doesn't
have HD, and I have several boxes of DVDs I've never watched.

Rod.

Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:47:34 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 01:52:17 GMT, Johnny B Good
wrote:


I may not be the typical TV viewer but I suspect most, especially
those
that have invested in a PVR, who, like me, value their time,
rarely watch
live TV, choosing instead to schedule what their PVR will capture
for
later viewing at a more convenient time of their own choosing with
the
added bonus in the case of commercial broadcasts of being able to
skip
past the adverts and unnecessary continuity crap.


Same here, and if a programme becomes really boring, it's possible
to
spin through it at one of several fast-forward speeds to see if
anything interesting happens.


I've kept my older PVR for the sake of programme clashes, and
because
it can also record on DVDs, but I rarely use it because it doesn't
have HD, and I have several boxes of DVDs I've never watched.

Think of the time you save...

--
Max Demian

Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:54:05 -0000
"Norman Wells" wrote:

"Johnny B Good" wrote in message
...

I may not be the typical TV viewer but I suspect most, especially
those that have invested in a PVR, who, like me, value their time,
rarely watch live TV, choosing instead to schedule what their PVR
will capture for later viewing at a more convenient time of their
own choosing with the added bonus in the case of commercial
broadcasts of being able to skip past the adverts and unnecessary
continuity crap.

It's an interesting psychological thing. I use my PVR to record
programmes I would have watched had I been able. But they more often
than not then sit on the hard disk for a long time, and frequently
get deleted without being watched at all.

I know this is going to happen, but still dutifully set the PVR. Why?

It's even worse if I archive something out to DVD to tidy up the hard
disk. That's usually a film I always meant to see but couldn't set
aside the couple of hours it needs, which is more often than not.
Once archived, though, it never brings itself to my attention because
it's no longer on a visible menu. Consequently, it never gets
watched at all unless, that is, it comes round again live when,
remarkably, I find I do have a couple of hours to watch it in, so I
do.

Am I alone in all this? Or should we set up a self-help group?



That's what external HDDs are for, and a simple spreadsheet to keep
track of what's still unwatched. You could even print it out! But I
usually only archive something I want to keep, rather than something
recorded but not watched. Non-technical SWMBO is very good at asking me
to record something, which then sits there forever, unwatched and
unloved.

--
Davey.

Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

"Davey" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:54:05 -0000
"Norman Wells" wrote:
"Johnny B Good" wrote in message
...

I may not be the typical TV viewer but I suspect most, especially
those that have invested in a PVR, who, like me, value their time,
rarely watch live TV, choosing instead to schedule what their PVR
will capture for later viewing at a more convenient time of their
own choosing with the added bonus in the case of commercial
broadcasts of being able to skip past the adverts and unnecessary
continuity crap.

It's an interesting psychological thing. I use my PVR to record
programmes I would have watched had I been able. But they more often
than not then sit on the hard disk for a long time, and frequently
get deleted without being watched at all.

I know this is going to happen, but still dutifully set the PVR. Why?

It's even worse if I archive something out to DVD to tidy up the hard
disk. That's usually a film I always meant to see but couldn't set
aside the couple of hours it needs, which is more often than not.
Once archived, though, it never brings itself to my attention because
it's no longer on a visible menu. Consequently, it never gets
watched at all unless, that is, it comes round again live when,
remarkably, I find I do have a couple of hours to watch it in, so I
do.

Am I alone in all this? Or should we set up a self-help group?

That's what external HDDs are for, and a simple spreadsheet to keep
track of what's still unwatched. You could even print it out! But I
usually only archive something I want to keep, rather than something
recorded but not watched. Non-technical SWMBO is very good at asking me
to record something, which then sits there forever, unwatched and
unloved.

Which I guess you daren't delete for fear of the wrath of god, right? You see, I'm
married too.

The only solution then is to archive out all of your stuff that you're never going
to watch, isn't it?

Whatever happened to 4G interference?
 

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:17:13 -0000
"Norman Wells" wrote:


That's what external HDDs are for, and a simple spreadsheet to keep
track of what's still unwatched. You could even print it out! But I
usually only archive something I want to keep, rather than something
recorded but not watched. Non-technical SWMBO is very good at
asking me to record something, which then sits there forever,
unwatched and unloved.

Which I guess you daren't delete for fear of the wrath of god,
right? You see, I'm married too.

The eternal dilemma. Sod's Law states that, if I delete one of her
programmes that was recorded two years ago, the first time she will want
to watch it will be the day after it's deleted. *


The only solution then is to archive out all of your stuff that
you're never going to watch, isn't it?

Multi-TB HDDs are cheap nowadays.......


* A family friend once (1970s) invested in an electrical shop in the
Essex Road in East London. It came with the manager who had been
there for years. They decided to clear out old stuff that had layers
of dust, which even the manager couldn't remember selling any of.
Then, a craze began for building old-style crystal wireless sets, and
lots of people came in asking if the shop had any cat's whiskers for
sale.
"If you had asked a month ago.....".

--
Davey.