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BBC One HD London broadcasting regional progs
Last week the BBC1 HD channel in London was broadcasting Kents Inside Out
instead of the London one on the SD channel. Yesterday it was Cornwalls version! Still, thats better than just swimming hippos which is what is usually there when regional programming is underway. Why are the BBC having such problems showing the correct , if any , regional programming on its HD channels? -- Spud |
BBC One HD London broadcasting regional progs
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BBC One HD London broadcasting regional progs
On 27/10/2015 17:55, NY wrote:
It would be better if they transmitted even an SD version of the correct region on HD (either as SD or else SD upscaled to HD) if they haven't got the money to equip the studio with HD cameras, vision mixers etc. That's what what requires all the expenditure, converting each regional studio to HD is *on* *top* of that cost. Three English regions have HD studios to date, London (as part of the NBH installation), South West (Plymouth), and North West (Salford, studio used in the mornings by BBC Breakfast) -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
BBC One HD London broadcasting regional progs
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
... On 27/10/2015 17:55, NY wrote: It would be better if they transmitted even an SD version of the correct region on HD (either as SD or else SD upscaled to HD) if they haven't got the money to equip the studio with HD cameras, vision mixers etc. That's what what requires all the expenditure, converting each regional studio to HD is *on* *top* of that cost. Ah, so even the equipment to convert SD to HD is a significant cost? Is it legal (ie standards-compliant) to send an MPEG SD stream alongside HD in place of an MP4 HD stream as part of the mux on the HD channel? Or would MPEG need to be converted to MP4 so the multiplex was homogenous? I notice that SD channels such as Talking Pictures TV which are part of a DVB-T2 mux, even though they are reduced-SD (544x576 rather than 720x576), are still sent as MP4, so maybe this answers my question. It's a shame there isn't anything in the DVB spec which can switch a TV/PVR from BBC One or ITV1 HD to the corresponding SD channel during local news and then switch it back afterwards, similar to the alternative frequency switching with RDS FM radio. That would allow people with HD TVs to leave them on (for example) BBC One HD and still get the local news without having to change channels at the beginning and end of it. I suppose it's better not to spend the money on SD-to-HD converters whish would only be used for a limited time, if the long-term aim is to convert regions to HD when money allows. As a matter of interest, is MP4 more processor-intensive to decode than MPEG? I've noticed that PC software such as VLC or VideoRedo takes a lot longer to resync if you move to a different part of a programme when playing MP4 than MPEG and can't smoothly scroll through at high speed - even if the MP4 programme is SD or reduced-SD, so it's not due to the greater number of pixels per frame. Indeed I can convert an SD recording to MP4 (eg H264) at the same resolution and see the more sluggish response, or I can convert H264 HD to MPEG and see an improvement in speed, which suggests that it's the encoding rather than the resolution which is the critical factor. |
BBC One HD London broadcasting regional progs
On 27/10/2015 17:55, NY wrote:
Any version of the correct programme is better than an HD version of the programme from a region that is the other side of the country. 'Inside Out' was 'Look North' on the EPG last night. 'Look North' itself today was largely given over to hero worship of a Leeds musician. He was mediocre in the extreme of our opinion, and there are many far better musicians in the region. There's one thing about him that explains why Look North was in such raptures about him. Guess what it was. Bill |
BBC One HD London broadcasting regional progs
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... On 27/10/2015 17:55, NY wrote: Any version of the correct programme is better than an HD version of the programme from a region that is the other side of the country. 'Inside Out' was 'Look North' on the EPG last night. 'Look North' itself today was largely given over to hero worship of a Leeds musician. He was mediocre in the extreme of our opinion, and there are many far better musicians in the region. There's one thing about him that explains why Look North was in such raptures about him. Guess what it was. I presume you're talking about the item on the MOBO awards. I don't think 3 minutes (counter 16:07 to 19:17 on iPlayer) out of a 28-minute programme is "largely given over to". |
BBC One HD London broadcasting regional progs
On 27/10/2015 20:37, NY wrote:
I presume you're talking about the item on the MOBO awards. I don't think 3 minutes (counter 16:07 to 19:17 on iPlayer) out of a 28-minute programme is "largely given over to". That's the evening edition. I saw the dinnertime one. Bill |
BBC One HD London broadcasting regional progs
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... On 27/10/2015 20:37, NY wrote: I presume you're talking about the item on the MOBO awards. I don't think 3 minutes (counter 16:07 to 19:17 on iPlayer) out of a 28-minute programme is "largely given over to". That's the evening edition. I saw the dinnertime one. Ah, I was forgetting that there was a lunchtime edition of the local news as well. I suppose since that's shorter, the same (or a similar) report will be a greater proportion of it. |
BBC One HD London broadcasting regional progs
On 27/10/2015 21:04, NY wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... On 27/10/2015 20:37, NY wrote: I presume you're talking about the item on the MOBO awards. I don't think 3 minutes (counter 16:07 to 19:17 on iPlayer) out of a 28-minute programme is "largely given over to". That's the evening edition. I saw the dinnertime one. Ah, I was forgetting that there was a lunchtime edition of the local news as well. I suppose since that's shorter, the same (or a similar) report will be a greater proportion of it. I didn't time it and I can't seem to find it on on iPlayer, but it did seem disproportionate. I watched the evening edition as well, but I was cooking and also dodging about doing various things, but I didn't hear anything at all about today's news that a load of Pakistanis have been arrested in Rotherham for child sex offences. If they did mention it it must have been very briefly. I'll try to remember to watch the 10.20 edition to see what gets prominence. By the way in Inside Out they had a piece about the war, and they mentioned 'the infamous Bletchley Park'! Bill |
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