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Brian Gaff[_2_] April 13th 15 10:46 AM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
So what are they up to this time. 5USA suggests its going to move to ch 21
on Wednesday, while a new channel called Spike or similar (why) is going to
start, as if we do not have enough already, and does this mean the demise of
Viva at last, which has had identity issues for some time.

Is this the brodcasting equivelent of a supermarket moving its stock
around or what?
Brian

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David[_14_] April 13th 15 11:14 AM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
On 13/04/2015 09:46, Brian Gaff wrote:
So what are they up to this time. 5USA suggests its going to move to ch 21
on Wednesday, while a new channel called Spike or similar (why) is going to
start, as if we do not have enough already, and does this mean the demise of
Viva at last, which has had identity issues for some time.

Is this the brodcasting equivelent of a supermarket moving its stock
around or what?
Brian



It is about time Freeviews whole numbering system was sorted out.
Regards
David

Scott[_4_] April 13th 15 11:42 AM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:46:33 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

So what are they up to this time. 5USA suggests its going to move to ch 21
on Wednesday, while a new channel called Spike or similar (why) is going to
start, as if we do not have enough already, and does this mean the demise of
Viva at last, which has had identity issues for some time.

Is this the brodcasting equivelent of a supermarket moving its stock
around or what?
Brian


Personally speaking, I generally only watch HD channels - BBC and
Channel 4 News - so it's fairly easy for me!

Peter Duncanson April 13th 15 01:38 PM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
Yes. Viva is leaving Freeview and Freesat.

Spike TV is a C5 service. It is described as "male-skewed". It will be a
British version of the US Viacom channel of the same name. Viacom is the
current owner of the C5 company.

There was an announcement of this back in October:
quote
Spike TV will carry a raft of US factual formats including Eyeworks
USA-produced Bar Rescue, which currently airs on 5*, as well as repeats
of Channel 5 factual series such as Cowboy Builders and Police
Interceptors.

In the US, the channel airs edgy reality series such as Dave
Navarro-fronted Ink Master Rivals, Tattoo Nightmares: Miami, dude food
format Frankenfood and building series To Catch A Contractor.

Speaking in the UK for the first time since the C5 acquisition, Viacom
president and chief executive Philippe Dauman told the Broadcasting
Press Guild that Spike TV will evolve to commission original
programming.
enquote
From this webpage
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadc...078408.article


On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:46:33 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

So what are they up to this time. 5USA suggests its going to move to ch 21
on Wednesday, while a new channel called Spike or similar (why) is going to
start, as if we do not have enough already, and does this mean the demise of
Viva at last, which has had identity issues for some time.

Is this the brodcasting equivelent of a supermarket moving its stock
around or what?
Brian


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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

NY April 13th 15 02:36 PM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
"David" wrote in message
...
On 13/04/2015 09:46, Brian Gaff wrote:
So what are they up to this time. 5USA suggests its going to move to ch
21
on Wednesday, while a new channel called Spike or similar (why) is going
to
start, as if we do not have enough already, and does this mean the demise
of
Viva at last, which has had identity issues for some time.

Is this the brodcasting equivelent of a supermarket moving its stock
around or what?
Brian


It is about time Freeviews whole numbering system was sorted out.


Yes. I don't really care what channel numbers they use as long as they agree
that all existing channels will keep the same numbers for ever and will
never move, and that the only changes will be additions and deletions as
channels are born or die.

Ofcom or whoever manage the allocation of channel numbers should have
enforced this from the start: plan ahead for the future, group channels by
genre (eg all news in one place, all children's in another, all shopping
crap in another, all drama in another), with large gaps for other channels
to be fitted in to the appropriate genre. Do that once, when Freeview or ITV
Digital or OnDigital first started, and then apply one overriding rule: once
a channel has been allocated a number, it keeps it for life, even if it
needs to be moved from one mux to another occasionally (though all retuning
needs to be kept to an absolute minimum).

Is there anywhere on Freeview's text channels or online which alerts people
to the need to retune?


Roderick Stewart[_3_] April 13th 15 03:05 PM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:38:39 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Spike TV is a C5 service. It is described as "male-skewed".


Does that mean it's for skewed males? If I watch it and find I enjoy
it, should I be worried?

Rod.

Davey April 13th 15 03:14 PM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:05:11 +0100
Roderick Stewart wrote:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:38:39 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

Spike TV is a C5 service. It is described as "male-skewed".


Does that mean it's for skewed males? If I watch it and find I enjoy
it, should I be worried?

Rod.


Better skewed than skewered, I suppose. That would be the cannibals of
Borneo.....

--
Davey.

Ian April 13th 15 03:45 PM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
In message , NY
writes
"David" wrote in message
...
On 13/04/2015 09:46, Brian Gaff wrote:
So what are they up to this time. 5USA suggests its going to move to
ch 21
on Wednesday, while a new channel called Spike or similar (why) is
going to
start, as if we do not have enough already, and does this mean the
demise of
Viva at last, which has had identity issues for some time.

Is this the brodcasting equivelent of a supermarket moving its stock
around or what?
Brian


It is about time Freeviews whole numbering system was sorted out.


Yes. I don't really care what channel numbers they use as long as they
agree that all existing channels will keep the same numbers for ever
and will never move, and that the only changes will be additions and
deletions as channels are born or die.

Ofcom or whoever manage the allocation of channel numbers should have
enforced this from the start: plan ahead for the future, group channels
by genre (eg all news in one place, all children's in another, all
shopping crap in another, all drama in another), with large gaps for
other channels to be fitted in to the appropriate genre. Do that once,
when Freeview or ITV Digital or OnDigital first started, and then apply
one overriding rule: once a channel has been allocated a number, it
keeps it for life, even if it needs to be moved from one mux to another
occasionally (though all retuning needs to be kept to an absolute minimum).

Is there anywhere on Freeview's text channels or online which alerts
people to the need to retune?


There won't be any need to re-tune, as only the names and content will
change.

Personally. I'll be interested to see if Breaking Bad lives up to it's
reputation.
--
Ian

Brian Gaff[_2_] April 13th 15 04:37 PM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
Its basically saying you should not need to retune but if you have an older
receiver, you may have to. In other words, who knows.
The problem is that I am given to understand that there are also now
standard definition channels planned for the hd multiplexes, and since my
old talking box does not have these it won't see the new channels.

This whole thing has been handled in a make do and mend fashion since day
one.
Brian

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"NY" wrote in message
...
"David" wrote in message
...
On 13/04/2015 09:46, Brian Gaff wrote:
So what are they up to this time. 5USA suggests its going to move to ch
21
on Wednesday, while a new channel called Spike or similar (why) is
going to
start, as if we do not have enough already, and does this mean the
demise of
Viva at last, which has had identity issues for some time.

Is this the brodcasting equivelent of a supermarket moving its stock
around or what?
Brian


It is about time Freeviews whole numbering system was sorted out.


Yes. I don't really care what channel numbers they use as long as they
agree that all existing channels will keep the same numbers for ever and
will never move, and that the only changes will be additions and deletions
as channels are born or die.

Ofcom or whoever manage the allocation of channel numbers should have
enforced this from the start: plan ahead for the future, group channels by
genre (eg all news in one place, all children's in another, all shopping
crap in another, all drama in another), with large gaps for other channels
to be fitted in to the appropriate genre. Do that once, when Freeview or
ITV Digital or OnDigital first started, and then apply one overriding
rule: once a channel has been allocated a number, it keeps it for life,
even if it needs to be moved from one mux to another occasionally (though
all retuning needs to be kept to an absolute minimum).

Is there anywhere on Freeview's text channels or online which alerts
people to the need to retune?




Brian Gaff[_2_] April 13th 15 04:39 PM

Freeview lets move da channels again..
 
Why call it Spike, and will content on this new channel have AD?
Brian

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From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"Ian" wrote in message
...
In message , NY
writes
"David" wrote in message
...
On 13/04/2015 09:46, Brian Gaff wrote:
So what are they up to this time. 5USA suggests its going to move to ch
21
on Wednesday, while a new channel called Spike or similar (why) is
going to
start, as if we do not have enough already, and does this mean the
demise of
Viva at last, which has had identity issues for some time.

Is this the brodcasting equivelent of a supermarket moving its stock
around or what?
Brian

It is about time Freeviews whole numbering system was sorted out.


Yes. I don't really care what channel numbers they use as long as they
agree that all existing channels will keep the same numbers for ever and
will never move, and that the only changes will be additions and deletions
as channels are born or die.

Ofcom or whoever manage the allocation of channel numbers should have
enforced this from the start: plan ahead for the future, group channels by
genre (eg all news in one place, all children's in another, all shopping
crap in another, all drama in another), with large gaps for other channels
to be fitted in to the appropriate genre. Do that once, when Freeview or
ITV Digital or OnDigital first started, and then apply one overriding
rule: once a channel has been allocated a number, it keeps it for life,
even if it needs to be moved from one mux to another occasionally (though
all retuning needs to be kept to an absolute minimum).

Is there anywhere on Freeview's text channels or online which alerts
people to the need to retune?


There won't be any need to re-tune, as only the names and content will
change.

Personally. I'll be interested to see if Breaking Bad lives up to it's
reputation.
--
Ian





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