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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

All the important cable entries are to the back of the TV and so a right
sod to get at when the TV is on the wall because of the limited room
between TV and wall.

Between 75mm and 90mm depending on which connection so just enough for a
stiff cable to bend, but not a lot extra to line it up and fit it.

I've just measured my fist in "grasping" position and the distance from
the back of the hand to the finger tips is about 75mm - much the same as a
clenched fist - so not a lot of space with my sized hands.

I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

I suppose I could stand the TV on some very high supports before lifting
it onto the brackets, but if I want to modify the cable connections at all
then I would presumably have to lift the whole thing off again which is a
two person job.

I could space the TV further out from the wall (plenty of spare 18mm OSB
and quite a bit of other sheet material to space the bracket out from the
wall) and this seems to be the most obvious option - bring the TV further
out without compromising the strength of the bracket. Just need longer
fixings.

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have the
permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like PC, AVI
and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted systems?

Cheers

Dave R

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David wrote:

I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

I mounted mine lower on the wall, so that the TV height was the same as
when it was on the stand.

All the important cable entries are to the back of the TV and so a right
sod to get at when the TV is on the wall because of the limited room
between TV and wall.

The bracket I used was a "flat to wall" one, not tilting/swivelling etc,
except that it is hinged at the top, so you can pull the bottom of the
TV away from the wall by about 4" and prop it there to reach the various
sockets.

http://audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/3880

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On 18/01/2015 18:27, David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

All the important cable entries are to the back of the TV and so a right
sod to get at when the TV is on the wall because of the limited room
between TV and wall.

Between 75mm and 90mm depending on which connection so just enough for a
stiff cable to bend, but not a lot extra to line it up and fit it.

I've just measured my fist in "grasping" position and the distance from
the back of the hand to the finger tips is about 75mm - much the same as a
clenched fist - so not a lot of space with my sized hands.

I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

I suppose I could stand the TV on some very high supports before lifting
it onto the brackets, but if I want to modify the cable connections at all
then I would presumably have to lift the whole thing off again which is a
two person job.

I could space the TV further out from the wall (plenty of spare 18mm OSB
and quite a bit of other sheet material to space the bracket out from the
wall) and this seems to be the most obvious option - bring the TV further
out without compromising the strength of the bracket. Just need longer
fixings.

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have the
permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like PC, AVI
and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted systems?

Cheers

Dave R


Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting
severe neck ache. In fact, the most comfortable place was from the
conservatory, but we couldn't hear the sound very well.

Phil M

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In uk.d-i-y David wrote:
I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

Try some short extension cables, or right angle bends. This kind of thing:
http://cpc.farnell.com/hama/083010/h...deg/dp/AV21375
That will allow all the cables to hang down somewhere you can access them.

Theo

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Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting
severe neck ache. In fact, the most comfortable place was from the
conservatory, but we couldn't hear the sound very well.

Phil M



never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?

--
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That fly.... Is your magic wand.

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On 18/01/15 18:27, David wrote:

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have the
permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like PC, AVI
and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted systems?


Folding bracket?

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the dog from that film you saw wrote

Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting
severe neck ache. In fact, the most comfortable place was from the
conservatory, but we couldn't hear the sound very well.

never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.

I must admit I have considered doing that, but haven't actually tried it.

One of my neighbours has got theirs mounted that high, and there
isn't a fireplace under it either. They clearly like it that way because
he is quite capable of mounting it any height he likes.

nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all

That may just be because it isn't that easy to do that and with
the original TVs which didn’t have remotes, not really practical.

- what better level to put a tv than eye level?

My superficial reaction is that its rather more visible in a larger
room when higher than that.

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:26:10 +0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 18/01/15 18:27, David wrote:

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have
the permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like
PC, AVI and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted
systems?


Folding bracket?

That would need to be built like a garden gate that kids could swing on!

Plasma TVs are seriously heavy, and mounting them flat takes a lot of big
screws.
A mounting which will support the weight on just one corner whilst the TV
swings out would require some serious metal work.
Anyway, I have the mounting and wasn't planning to change it. :-)

So far, nobody has said "Well, what I did was..."

Best option so far looks to be spacing out another 18-25mm.

Cheers

Dave R

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David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

Way too high. Don't even think about it unless you hate television and
enjoy sore necks.

The correct height is your eye level when you're slumped on the sofa.
Anything higher will be a real pain in the arse. For God's sake, don't do
it unless you want to look like a chav out to impress the neighbours.

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Chavy

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On 18 Jan 2015, David grunted:

Folding bracket?

That would need to be built like a garden gate that kids could swing
on!

Plasma TVs are seriously heavy, and mounting them flat takes a lot of
big screws.
A mounting which will support the weight on just one corner whilst the
TV swings out would require some serious metal work.

Well, that's exactly what I did myself. I mounted a 42" plasma TV on one of
these babies a few months ago: http://tinyurl.com/m7mnwj9 (or
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Invision%C2%...Mount-Bracket-
Cantilever/dp/B00393KNVQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)

So far, nobody has said "Well, what I did was..."

Well, what I did is in this thread, as I came here for lots of useful
advice: http://tinyurl.com/4kcmbx7 (or https://groups.google.com/forum/#!
msg/uk.d-i-y/sUgm-6g7y-E/WTkibLBhnGUJ)

The cantilever bracket is bloody brilliant; yes I took a hell of a lot of
care with the mounting (as that's always the weakest point) but it's as
firm as a rock, even when pulled right out from the wall. I'm confident I
could swing on the thing, never mind kids!

It goes very close to the wall when folded away. That's also helped by
having all the cables in the back with right-angled plugs or adapters,
readily ebayable. All cables are hidden from view by travelling inside a
couple of feet of plastic trunking buried in the wall and plastered over
(with a brushplate at either end). This has a large enough bore to enable
HDMI and Europlug cables etc to be stuffed down without needing to detach
the plugs. Oh and yes, it's mounted at eye level not above the fireplace.

--
David

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On 18/01/2015 20:29, Theo Markettos wrote:
In uk.d-i-y David wrote:
I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

Try some short extension cables, or right angle bends. This kind of thing:
http://cpc.farnell.com/hama/083010/h...deg/dp/AV21375
That will allow all the cables to hang down somewhere you can access them.

Theo


Alternatively just by an HDMI cable with a right angled end. For sale on
ebay with the right angle either way.


--
Michael Chare

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phil m wrote:

Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting
severe neck ache. In fact, the most comfortable place was from the
conservatory, but we couldn't hear the sound very well.

My mate fits these for people, advertises his services. The main issue
is the height above floor level. People almost always want it too high.
Many ignore my friend's advice.

Bill

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Tim+ wrote:
David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

Way too high. Don't even think about it unless you hate television and
enjoy sore necks.

The correct height is your eye level when you're slumped on the sofa.
Anything higher will be a real pain in the arse. For God's sake, don't do
it unless you want to look like a chav out to impress the neighbours.

Yes. Good advice.

Bill

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"phil m" wrote in message
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On 18/01/2015 18:27, David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

All the important cable entries are to the back of the TV and so a right
sod to get at when the TV is on the wall because of the limited room
between TV and wall.

Between 75mm and 90mm depending on which connection so just enough for a
stiff cable to bend, but not a lot extra to line it up and fit it.

I've just measured my fist in "grasping" position and the distance from
the back of the hand to the finger tips is about 75mm - much the same as
a
clenched fist - so not a lot of space with my sized hands.

I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

I suppose I could stand the TV on some very high supports before lifting
it onto the brackets, but if I want to modify the cable connections at
all
then I would presumably have to lift the whole thing off again which is a
two person job.

I could space the TV further out from the wall (plenty of spare 18mm OSB
and quite a bit of other sheet material to space the bracket out from the
wall) and this seems to be the most obvious option - bring the TV further
out without compromising the strength of the bracket. Just need longer
fixings.

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have the
permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like PC, AVI
and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted systems?

Cheers

Dave R


Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting severe
neck ache. In fact, the most comfortable place was from the conservatory,
but we couldn't hear the sound very well.


It wants to be eye level when you're sat down too.
Mine is about 400mm from the floor.

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"David" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:26:10 +0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 18/01/15 18:27, David wrote:

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have
the permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like
PC, AVI and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted
systems?


Folding bracket?

That would need to be built like a garden gate that kids could swing on!

Plasma TVs are seriously heavy, and mounting them flat takes a lot of big
screws.
A mounting which will support the weight on just one corner whilst the TV
swings out would require some serious metal work.
Anyway, I have the mounting and wasn't planning to change it. :-)

So far, nobody has said "Well, what I did was..."

Best option so far looks to be spacing out another 18-25mm.


There are lots about. I have a tilt and swinvel one.
Mind you, it has serious fixings into a 200mm concrete block wall.

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On 18/01/2015 19:29, phil m wrote:

Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting
severe neck ache.
[snip]
Same here, it was remarkably uncomfortable.

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On 18/01/2015 18:27, David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

All the important cable entries are to the back of the TV and so a right
sod to get at when the TV is on the wall because of the limited room
between TV and wall.

Between 75mm and 90mm depending on which connection so just enough for a
stiff cable to bend, but not a lot extra to line it up and fit it.

I've just measured my fist in "grasping" position and the distance from
the back of the hand to the finger tips is about 75mm - much the same as a
clenched fist - so not a lot of space with my sized hands.

I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

I suppose I could stand the TV on some very high supports before lifting
it onto the brackets, but if I want to modify the cable connections at all
then I would presumably have to lift the whole thing off again which is a
two person job.

I could space the TV further out from the wall (plenty of spare 18mm OSB
and quite a bit of other sheet material to space the bracket out from the
wall) and this seems to be the most obvious option - bring the TV further
out without compromising the strength of the bracket. Just need longer
fixings.

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have the
permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like PC, AVI
and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted systems?

Cheers

Dave R

Make a home-made pivoting mount.
What I did was to cut 4 lengths of extruded aluminium angle and drill a
6mm hole at the top of one face of each piece. Fix 2 lengths to the
mounting holes on the back of the TV (up/down) and carefully fix the
other 2 to the wall at the same spacing and the desired height (eye
height when sat down); in each case the face with the holes in is
"sticking out". Get someone to hold the TV against the wall so you can
pop a couple of bolts through the 2 holes and hang the TV; it now pivots
on those bolts and the viewing angle is set by a packing piece that goes
between the wall and the back of the TV. Access to cables is easy from
underneath because the whole TV pivots out on the bolts. The position of
the pivot holes (and hence the length of angle) needs to be thought
about so that the top of the TV doesn't hit the wall and stop the TV
pivoting before you can get to the connectors.

I did this a long time ago and it's worked well. It gives access, is
very strong, prevents easy TV theft, and is close to the wall.

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I'd have thought that Plasmas were not really long for this world by now in
any case. heavy generate rfi and often bloody hard to set up. Brian

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"David" wrote in message
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

All the important cable entries are to the back of the TV and so a right
sod to get at when the TV is on the wall because of the limited room
between TV and wall.

Between 75mm and 90mm depending on which connection so just enough for a
stiff cable to bend, but not a lot extra to line it up and fit it.

I've just measured my fist in "grasping" position and the distance from
the back of the hand to the finger tips is about 75mm - much the same as a
clenched fist - so not a lot of space with my sized hands.

I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

I suppose I could stand the TV on some very high supports before lifting
it onto the brackets, but if I want to modify the cable connections at all
then I would presumably have to lift the whole thing off again which is a
two person job.

I could space the TV further out from the wall (plenty of spare 18mm OSB
and quite a bit of other sheet material to space the bracket out from the
wall) and this seems to be the most obvious option - bring the TV further
out without compromising the strength of the bracket. Just need longer
fixings.

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have the
permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like PC, AVI
and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted systems?

Cheers

Dave R

--
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

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One solution adopted by a good few people on the excellent AV Forums website
is to build out a false wall a few inches deep, to accommodate cabling. The
leads can be long enough to allow connecting up with the TV while it's off
the wall, and simply coil into the hollow space when the set is mounted.

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 07:52:21 -0000, "harryagain"
wrote:

Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting severe
neck ache. In fact, the most comfortable place was from the conservatory,
but we couldn't hear the sound very well.


It wants to be eye level when you're sat down too.
Mine is about 400mm from the floor.

I decided mine needed to be at top-of-varifocals level when the viewer
is sitting comfortably on a sofa, and settled on the final position
after experimenting with large sheets of paper and Blu-Tack.

I would guess that in some instances an important objective would be
to keep an expensive item out of the reach of small fingers, so
perhaps ideal viewing conditions are sometimes secondary.

Rod.

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 00:27:00 +0000, Lobster wrote:

On 18 Jan 2015, David grunted:

Folding bracket?

That would need to be built like a garden gate that kids could swing
on!

Plasma TVs are seriously heavy, and mounting them flat takes a lot of
big screws.
A mounting which will support the weight on just one corner whilst the
TV swings out would require some serious metal work.

Well, that's exactly what I did myself. I mounted a 42" plasma TV on one
of these babies a few months ago: http://tinyurl.com/m7mnwj9 (or
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Invision%C2%...Mount-Bracket-
Cantilever/dp/B00393KNVQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)

So far, nobody has said "Well, what I did was..."

Well, what I did is in this thread, as I came here for lots of useful
advice: http://tinyurl.com/4kcmbx7 (or
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!
msg/uk.d-i-y/sUgm-6g7y-E/WTkibLBhnGUJ)

The cantilever bracket is bloody brilliant; yes I took a hell of a lot
of care with the mounting (as that's always the weakest point) but it's
as firm as a rock, even when pulled right out from the wall. I'm
confident I could swing on the thing, never mind kids!

It goes very close to the wall when folded away. That's also helped by
having all the cables in the back with right-angled plugs or adapters,
readily ebayable. All cables are hidden from view by travelling inside a
couple of feet of plastic trunking buried in the wall and plastered over
(with a brushplate at either end). This has a large enough bore to
enable HDMI and Europlug cables etc to be stuffed down without needing
to detach the plugs. Oh and yes, it's mounted at eye level not above
the fireplace.

Thanks - I think I am being blinkered by my original choice of bracket
plus some less than brilliant experiences with another cantilever bracket
for a 32" TV.

The bracket you link to looks promising (although the price reduction
looks bizarre).

Some promising ideas from others, as well.

Cheers

Dave R

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 02:46:19 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Tim+ wrote:
David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the
fireplace.

Way too high. Don't even think about it unless you hate television and
enjoy sore necks.

The correct height is your eye level when you're slumped on the sofa.
Anything higher will be a real pain in the arse. For God's sake, don't
do it unless you want to look like a chav out to impress the
neighbours.

Yes. Good advice.

Bill

However, we have already had the TV on the same wall since 2009 and
haven't suffered the neck ache you mention.

Possibly because we sit with out backs leaning backwards (not upright) so
our eye line with the head in neutral position angles upwards (not flat).

We were even thinking of moving it up slightly based on our experience to
date.

{Visualise me slumping on the sofa and the Poang chair to check this out
again....sorry if this is a painful experience!}

Yep, comfortable viewing angle has the TV quite far up the wall at a
distance of 12 feet.

Not being total numpties all the time we did check this out before
mounting the TV for the first time.

So it really all depends on how you slump on the sofa.

Cheers

Dave R


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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:09:01 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

I'd have thought that Plasmas were not really long for this world by now
in any case. heavy generate rfi and often bloody hard to set up. Brian

Not enough reason to throw away a working set, though.

We inherited a second, even older plasma which is now in the bedroom.

I've no plans to "upgrade" either set in the foreseeable future.
The most likely on is an older 32" HD Ready Panasonic which has always
been grumpy about coming out of stand by. However it does still work.

Cheers

Dave R

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:33:06 +0000, Bert Coules wrote:

One solution adopted by a good few people on the excellent AV Forums
website is to build out a false wall a few inches deep, to accommodate
cabling. The leads can be long enough to allow connecting up with the
TV while it's off the wall, and simply coil into the hollow space when
the set is mounted.

Thanks.

Instead of a false wall I have a chimney - so I can run the cables into
the chimney void and then have them drop down into the fireplace which
will be the AV/Hi-Fi cupboard.

The main issue is the "off the wall" bit but it is starting to seem less
of a problem as various options are suggested.

Cheers

Dave R



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In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?

Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

--
*Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?

Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

I'm not surprised. I would have thought that the natural (and therefore
most restful) direction of human vision would be 10 to 15 degrees
downwards. It's the angle most of us have been watching TV at since the
1930s.
--
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David wrote:

Instead of a false wall I have a chimney - so I can run the cables into
the chimney void and then have them drop down into the fireplace which
will be the AV/Hi-Fi cupboard.

That's basically what I did, excuse the dodgy pictures, neither is a
before or after, they're both during!

http://www.adslpipe.co.uk/pics/soundproofing1.jpg
http://www.adslpipe.co.uk/pics/the_installation.jpg

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David, could you not sink a channel in the wall of the fireplace to
accommodate the cable run from its central entry point to where the TV's
connectors are?

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On 1/19/2015 11:11 AM, Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2015-01-19, Bob Latham wrote:

I would have to say I'm constantly coming across conflicts between
style and function. Many people I know go the style route and
sacrifice function. Me, I'm the opposite, get it to work at the
optimum then ask how to make it look the best we can. Our home
wouldn't win any competitions.

YMYA.

I've googled it but the best it came up with was young married young adult.

As I'm not young I don't think that's it. No idea.

You're Me You Are

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On 19/01/2015 13:55, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?

Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

I'm not surprised. I would have thought that the natural (and therefore
most restful) direction of human vision would be 10 to 15 degrees
downwards. It's the angle most of us have been watching TV at since the
1930s.
.... 'tis basic ergonomics: the top of a display screen that's used
regularly should be no higher than eye height - looking up at something
exposes more of the eye's surface and can lead to drying, also leads to
strain in neck muscles. This comes from being seated in an office chair
with an upright back, so can be relaxed if lounged back on a sofa.

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:29:28 +0000, Theo Markettos wrote:

In uk.d-i-y David wrote:
I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will
be coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the
TV and the connections are to one side.

Try some short extension cables, or right angle bends. This kind of
thing:
http://cpc.farnell.com/hama/083010/h...deg/dp/AV21375 That
will allow all the cables to hang down somewhere you can access them.

Theo

Thanks.
Looks like that would work.
I'm a little wary of the extra junctions, though.

I'm coming round to the idea of just cabling every available connection
(apart from the ones on the side) with long cables which can be tidied
through the chimney and down the back of the components in the fireplace.

Have the TV on a high stand then lift on, and accept that any major change
will require a lift off/on.

Bracket has a quick release so no screws or bolts to mess with.

Cheers

Dave R

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:59:01 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

.

Thanks!
Very useful pictures.

I note that it looks like a conventional style (MDF?) Hi-Fi cabinet fitted
into the opening and that the TV hangs down over the top of the cabinet
area concealing the hole behind.

As discussed further up thread (apparently to the horror of most) the TV
is going quite a bit further up the wall.

Apart from the viewing angle being more comfortable for us, this also
gives room for the centre speaker of the surround sound 5:1 rig to sit
underneath the TV and above the fireplace.

Was your fireplace opening that high anyway or did you remove the top to
make it larger?

Oh, and any pictures of the finished article?
That would also be very helpful.

Cheers

Dave R



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In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

I'm not surprised. I would have thought that the natural (and therefore
most restful) direction of human vision would be 10 to 15 degrees
downwards. It's the angle most of us have been watching TV at since the
1930s.

Or just walking along. ;-)

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*You're never too old to learn something stupid.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?

Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.


I think there was a BBC engineering monograph on the matter, seem to
remember it said that it was recommended for the least eyestrain to set
the screen some 15 to 20 deg below the viewers eye height...
--
Tony Sayer

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:02:00 +0000, Bert Coules wrote:

David, could you not sink a channel in the wall of the fireplace to
accommodate the cable run from its central entry point to where the TV's
connectors are?

Thanks.

Last resort as it is all newly plastered and I don't want to start hacking
it about.

Fortunately, I think I am nearly at a solution combining carious
suggestions.

Cheers

Dave R

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Last resort as it is all newly plastered and I don't want to start hacking
it about.

Ah yes, that's understandable. Good to hear that you've found another
solution.

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David wrote:

I note that it looks like a conventional style (MDF?) Hi-Fi cabinet fitted
into the opening and that the TV hangs down over the top of the cabinet
area concealing the hole behind

Yes, that about it.

cabinet made from MDF and a few bits of mitred moulding with routed
slots for custom glass shelves to take the HTPC, surround amp and centre
dialogue speaker with another MDF shelf hidden behind the bottom of the
TV, for a WiFi access point, various power bricks, cables etc.

http://www.adslpipe.co.uk/pics/the_construction.jpg

As discussed further up thread (apparently to the horror of most) the TV
is going quite a bit further up the wall.

And to my horror in my first reply too ..

Was your fireplace opening that high anyway or did you remove the top to
make it larger?

I knocked about half a dozen shoddy bricks from beneath the lintel, they
were mainly held up by will-power and plaster.

Oh, and any pictures of the finished article?
That would also be very helpful.

Not yet unfortunately ...

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People in wheelchairs get neck ache at social events where many people
stand.

Bill

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wrote in message
...
On 19/01/2015 13:55, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?

Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

I'm not surprised. I would have thought that the natural (and therefore
most restful) direction of human vision would be 10 to 15 degrees
downwards. It's the angle most of us have been watching TV at since the
1930s.

... 'tis basic ergonomics:

We'll see...

the top of a display screen that's used regularly should be no higher than
eye height

My monitors on my desktop system are higher than that,
the center of the screen vertically is about at eye level.

Works fine and I can have it at your level if I want,
they are on a proper monitor mount that allows
me to change the vertical position trivially.
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/lase...r-arms-aa32070

- looking up at something exposes more of the eye's surface

I don’t buy that with the small amount higher my monitors are.

and can lead to drying,

I don’t get any of that.

also leads to strain in neck muscles.

Or that either.

This comes from being seated in an office chair with an upright back, so
can be relaxed if lounged back on a sofa.

I compute from a deep armchair with my feet up horizontally.