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On 19/01/2015 20:36, Rod Speed wrote:

My monitors on my desktop system are higher than that,
the center of the screen vertically is about at eye level.

That made me look at where mine is positioned. The centre of the screen
is level with my mouth. so that I look up slightly for the top of the
screen and down for the bottom. I do this by a small movement of my
head because I wear varifocal spectacles and the sharp focus at that
distance is through a particular part of the lens.

Jim

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In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
- looking up at something exposes more of the eye's surface

I dont buy that with the small amount higher my monitors are.

and can lead to drying,

I dont get any of that.

also leads to strain in neck muscles.

Or that either.

Go to your local hospital and to the physiotherapy unit. Ask for a leaflet
on back etc strain - and how to minimise future problems.

You'll likely find information there about the best posture - and about
computer monitor heights.

Rather more helpful than your surmises.

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Indy Jess John wrote
Rod Speed wrote

My monitors on my desktop system are higher than that,
the center of the screen vertically is about at eye level.

That's not quite right, the eyes are level with
a point a third of the way down the screen.

That made me look at where mine is positioned. The centre of the screen
is level with my mouth. so that I look up slightly for the top of the
screen and down for the bottom. I do this by a small movement of my head

I don’t move my head when looking at the main
screen, just my eyes, with a 24" wide screen monitor.
The monitor is 60cm from my face. My face is level
with a point about 40% of the way across the screen
on the left of center.

I have another monitor to the left of the main
screen at an angle of about 120 degrees.

because I wear varifocal spectacles

I have monofocals.

and the sharp focus at that distance is through a particular part of the
lens.

That's one of the reasons I don’t have varyfocals, having
to move my head would be a damned nuisance. I'm short
sighted.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

- looking up at something exposes more of the eye's surface

I don't buy that with the small amount higher my monitors are.

and can lead to drying,

I don't get any of that.

also leads to strain in neck muscles.

Or that either.

Go to your local hospital and to the physiotherapy unit. Ask for a
leaflet on back etc strain - and how to minimise future problems.

No thanks, I use the net for that sort of info and since
I have never had any neck or back problems at all, ever,
I clearly don’t need any advice on how to do the monitors.

I compute from a deep armchair with my feet
up and have been doing that for decades now
without any problems at all and can do that for
a lot more than all day too.

You'll likely find information there about the best posture

Not interested in what anyone claims
on that, it clearly works fine for me.

- and about computer monitor heights.

Ditto.

Rather more helpful than your surmises.

It aint a surmise, its decades of doing it.

Unlike with whoever writes that stuff.

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 00:33:00 +0000, Indy Jess John
wrote:

My monitors on my desktop system are higher than that,
the center of the screen vertically is about at eye level.

That made me look at where mine is positioned. The centre of the screen
is level with my mouth. so that I look up slightly for the top of the
screen and down for the bottom. I do this by a small movement of my
head because I wear varifocal spectacles and the sharp focus at that
distance is through a particular part of the lens.

If you wear general purpose varifocals while using a computer, and you
use a computer a lot, I would strongly recommend you ask your optician
to make you a pair of reading glasses. They should be optimised for
your preferred reading distance, but you may find, as I did, that the
same glasses work equally well for reading from computer screens and
books. (It depends on where you place your computer screen and how you
hold a book of course, so your mileage may vary, as they say, but
probably not by much).

Not only will you no longer have to keep moving your head to see
different parts of the screen, but you will find that even the part
you are looking at looks clearer. I'm not exactly sure why this is,
but I think it could be that the contrast is improved as a result of
the entire lens contributing to the focus, instead of peripheral parts
of the lens providing out of focus images that simply fog the part of
the screen you are looking at. Whatever the exact mechanism, it makes
a worthwhile difference.

You'll probably find that the most difficult thing is making the
decision to do it, because psychologically acknowledging the need for
extra glasses amounts to an admission that you're getting old, but
unfortunately, there's no escape.

Rod.

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Roderick Stewart wrote:

If you wear general purpose varifocals while using a computer, and you
use a computer a lot, I would strongly recommend you ask your optician
to make you a pair of reading glasses. They should be optimised for
your preferred reading distance, but you may find, as I did, that the
same glasses work equally well for reading from computer screens and
books. (It depends on where you place your computer screen and how you
hold a book of course, so your mileage may vary, as they say, but
probably not by much).

Not only will you no longer have to keep moving your head to see
different parts of the screen, but you will find that even the part
you are looking at looks clearer. I'm not exactly sure why this is,
but I think it could be that the contrast is improved as a result of
the entire lens contributing to the focus, instead of peripheral parts
of the lens providing out of focus images that simply fog the part of
the screen you are looking at. Whatever the exact mechanism, it makes
a worthwhile difference.

You'll probably find that the most difficult thing is making the
decision to do it, because psychologically acknowledging the need for
extra glasses amounts to an admission that you're getting old, but
unfortunately, there's no escape.

I completely agree. It is the way to go, and a pair of single
focal length glasses are comparatively (wrt varifocals) cheap.

If you have a job which requires you to use a computer, you may
well find that the company is obliged to help with any such
dedicated computer glasses that are found necessary.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


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Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 00:33:00 +0000, Indy Jess John
wrote:

My monitors on my desktop system are higher than that,
the center of the screen vertically is about at eye level.
That made me look at where mine is positioned. The centre of the screen
is level with my mouth. so that I look up slightly for the top of the
screen and down for the bottom. I do this by a small movement of my
head because I wear varifocal spectacles and the sharp focus at that
distance is through a particular part of the lens.

If you wear general purpose varifocals while using a computer, and you
use a computer a lot, I would strongly recommend you ask your optician
to make you a pair of reading glasses.

Yes. Good advice. Or measure the distance from eyes to screen and eyes
to keyboard/notes, and get bifocals made to suit. That's my solution and
it works well.

Bill

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Chris J Dixon wrote:

If you have a job which requires you to use a computer, you may
well find that the company is obliged to help with any such
dedicated computer glasses that are found necessary.

If self employed it's tax deductible.

Bill

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In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Go to your local hospital and to the physiotherapy unit. Ask for a
leaflet on back etc strain - and how to minimise future problems.

No thanks, I use the net for that sort of info and since
I have never had any neck or back problems at all, ever,
I clearly don’t need any advice on how to do the monitors.

But others who have had or may have in the future do. Preferably good
advice - which we never ever get from you.

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On 20/01/2015 12:24, Roderick Stewart wrote:

If you wear general purpose varifocals while using a computer, and you
use a computer a lot, I would strongly recommend you ask your optician
to make you a pair of reading glasses.

I am very short sighted. Without my glasses the limit of my clear
vision is about 6 inches (15cm) from the end of my nose.

Reading glasses have + values. Even at the distance of my monitor I
need a - value.

Because the correction needs such a high value refractive index, my
glasses are made of very high refractive index material to make a
reasonable compromise between thickness that can be held in a standard
frame and weight when worn, and that doesn't come cheap. The pair on my
nose at the moment didn't give me much change from 600 quid.

Jim