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No Name January 19th 15 05:33 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 
On 19/01/2015 13:55, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?


Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

I'm not surprised. I would have thought that the natural (and therefore
most restful) direction of human vision would be 10 to 15 degrees
downwards. It's the angle most of us have been watching TV at since the
1930s.

.... 'tis basic ergonomics: the top of a display screen that's used
regularly should be no higher than eye height - looking up at something
exposes more of the eye's surface and can lead to drying, also leads to
strain in neck muscles. This comes from being seated in an office chair
with an upright back, so can be relaxed if lounged back on a sofa.

David[_19_] January 19th 15 06:39 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:29:28 +0000, Theo Markettos wrote:

In uk.d-i-y David wrote:
I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will
be coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the
TV and the connections are to one side.


Try some short extension cables, or right angle bends. This kind of
thing:
http://cpc.farnell.com/hama/083010/h...deg/dp/AV21375 That
will allow all the cables to hang down somewhere you can access them.

Theo


Thanks.
Looks like that would work.
I'm a little wary of the extra junctions, though.

I'm coming round to the idea of just cabling every available connection
(apart from the ones on the side) with long cables which can be tidied
through the chimney and down the back of the components in the fireplace.

Have the TV on a high stand then lift on, and accept that any major change
will require a lift off/on.

Bracket has a quick release so no screws or bolts to mess with.

Cheers

Dave R

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Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

David[_19_] January 19th 15 06:57 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:59:01 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

.


Thanks!
Very useful pictures.

I note that it looks like a conventional style (MDF?) Hi-Fi cabinet fitted
into the opening and that the TV hangs down over the top of the cabinet
area concealing the hole behind.

As discussed further up thread (apparently to the horror of most) the TV
is going quite a bit further up the wall.

Apart from the viewing angle being more comfortable for us, this also
gives room for the centre speaker of the surround sound 5:1 rig to sit
underneath the TV and above the fireplace.

Was your fireplace opening that high anyway or did you remove the top to
make it larger?

Oh, and any pictures of the finished article?
That would also be very helpful.

Cheers

Dave R



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Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

Dave Plowman (News) January 19th 15 07:30 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 
In article ,
Ian Jackson wrote:
Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

I'm not surprised. I would have thought that the natural (and therefore
most restful) direction of human vision would be 10 to 15 degrees
downwards. It's the angle most of us have been watching TV at since the
1930s.


Or just walking along. ;-)

--
*You're never too old to learn something stupid.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

tony sayer January 19th 15 07:38 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?


Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.


I think there was a BBC engineering monograph on the matter, seem to
remember it said that it was recommended for the least eyestrain to set
the screen some 15 to 20 deg below the viewers eye height...
--
Tony Sayer

..


David[_19_] January 19th 15 07:39 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:02:00 +0000, Bert Coules wrote:

David, could you not sink a channel in the wall of the fireplace to
accommodate the cable run from its central entry point to where the TV's
connectors are?


Thanks.

Last resort as it is all newly plastered and I don't want to start hacking
it about.

Fortunately, I think I am nearly at a solution combining carious
suggestions.

Cheers

Dave R

--
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

Bert Coules January 19th 15 08:15 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 
Last resort as it is all newly plastered and I don't want to start hacking
it about.


Ah yes, that's understandable. Good to hear that you've found another
solution.



Andy Burns[_9_] January 19th 15 08:21 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 
David wrote:

I note that it looks like a conventional style (MDF?) Hi-Fi cabinet fitted
into the opening and that the TV hangs down over the top of the cabinet
area concealing the hole behind


Yes, that about it.

cabinet made from MDF and a few bits of mitred moulding with routed
slots for custom glass shelves to take the HTPC, surround amp and centre
dialogue speaker with another MDF shelf hidden behind the bottom of the
TV, for a WiFi access point, various power bricks, cables etc.

http://www.adslpipe.co.uk/pics/the_construction.jpg

As discussed further up thread (apparently to the horror of most) the TV
is going quite a bit further up the wall.


And to my horror in my first reply too ..

Was your fireplace opening that high anyway or did you remove the top to
make it larger?


I knocked about half a dozen shoddy bricks from beneath the lintel, they
were mainly held up by will-power and plaster.

Oh, and any pictures of the finished article?
That would also be very helpful.


Not yet unfortunately ...



Bill Wright[_2_] January 19th 15 08:38 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 
People in wheelchairs get neck ache at social events where many people
stand.

Bill

Rod Speed January 19th 15 09:36 PM

Mounting flat screen TV on wall and discreet cabling
 


wrote in message
...
On 19/01/2015 13:55, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?

Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

I'm not surprised. I would have thought that the natural (and therefore
most restful) direction of human vision would be 10 to 15 degrees
downwards. It's the angle most of us have been watching TV at since the
1930s.


... 'tis basic ergonomics:


We'll see...

the top of a display screen that's used regularly should be no higher than
eye height


My monitors on my desktop system are higher than that,
the center of the screen vertically is about at eye level.

Works fine and I can have it at your level if I want,
they are on a proper monitor mount that allows
me to change the vertical position trivially.
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/lase...r-arms-aa32070

- looking up at something exposes more of the eye's surface


I don’t buy that with the small amount higher my monitors are.

and can lead to drying,


I don’t get any of that.

also leads to strain in neck muscles.


Or that either.

This comes from being seated in an office chair with an upright back, so
can be relaxed if lounged back on a sofa.


I compute from a deep armchair with my feet up horizontally.




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