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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 07:52:21 -0000, "harryagain"
wrote:

Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting severe
neck ache. In fact, the most comfortable place was from the conservatory,
but we couldn't hear the sound very well.


It wants to be eye level when you're sat down too.
Mine is about 400mm from the floor.

I decided mine needed to be at top-of-varifocals level when the viewer
is sitting comfortably on a sofa, and settled on the final position
after experimenting with large sheets of paper and Blu-Tack.

I would guess that in some instances an important objective would be
to keep an expensive item out of the reach of small fingers, so
perhaps ideal viewing conditions are sometimes secondary.

Rod.

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 00:27:00 +0000, Lobster wrote:

On 18 Jan 2015, David grunted:

Folding bracket?

That would need to be built like a garden gate that kids could swing
on!

Plasma TVs are seriously heavy, and mounting them flat takes a lot of
big screws.
A mounting which will support the weight on just one corner whilst the
TV swings out would require some serious metal work.

Well, that's exactly what I did myself. I mounted a 42" plasma TV on one
of these babies a few months ago: http://tinyurl.com/m7mnwj9 (or
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Invision%C2%...Mount-Bracket-
Cantilever/dp/B00393KNVQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)

So far, nobody has said "Well, what I did was..."

Well, what I did is in this thread, as I came here for lots of useful
advice: http://tinyurl.com/4kcmbx7 (or
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!
msg/uk.d-i-y/sUgm-6g7y-E/WTkibLBhnGUJ)

The cantilever bracket is bloody brilliant; yes I took a hell of a lot
of care with the mounting (as that's always the weakest point) but it's
as firm as a rock, even when pulled right out from the wall. I'm
confident I could swing on the thing, never mind kids!

It goes very close to the wall when folded away. That's also helped by
having all the cables in the back with right-angled plugs or adapters,
readily ebayable. All cables are hidden from view by travelling inside a
couple of feet of plastic trunking buried in the wall and plastered over
(with a brushplate at either end). This has a large enough bore to
enable HDMI and Europlug cables etc to be stuffed down without needing
to detach the plugs. Oh and yes, it's mounted at eye level not above
the fireplace.

Thanks - I think I am being blinkered by my original choice of bracket
plus some less than brilliant experiences with another cantilever bracket
for a 32" TV.

The bracket you link to looks promising (although the price reduction
looks bizarre).

Some promising ideas from others, as well.

Cheers

Dave R

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 02:46:19 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Tim+ wrote:
David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the
fireplace.

Way too high. Don't even think about it unless you hate television and
enjoy sore necks.

The correct height is your eye level when you're slumped on the sofa.
Anything higher will be a real pain in the arse. For God's sake, don't
do it unless you want to look like a chav out to impress the
neighbours.

Yes. Good advice.

Bill

However, we have already had the TV on the same wall since 2009 and
haven't suffered the neck ache you mention.

Possibly because we sit with out backs leaning backwards (not upright) so
our eye line with the head in neutral position angles upwards (not flat).

We were even thinking of moving it up slightly based on our experience to
date.

{Visualise me slumping on the sofa and the Poang chair to check this out
again....sorry if this is a painful experience!}

Yep, comfortable viewing angle has the TV quite far up the wall at a
distance of 12 feet.

Not being total numpties all the time we did check this out before
mounting the TV for the first time.

So it really all depends on how you slump on the sofa.

Cheers

Dave R


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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:09:01 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

I'd have thought that Plasmas were not really long for this world by now
in any case. heavy generate rfi and often bloody hard to set up. Brian

Not enough reason to throw away a working set, though.

We inherited a second, even older plasma which is now in the bedroom.

I've no plans to "upgrade" either set in the foreseeable future.
The most likely on is an older 32" HD Ready Panasonic which has always
been grumpy about coming out of stand by. However it does still work.

Cheers

Dave R

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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:33:06 +0000, Bert Coules wrote:

One solution adopted by a good few people on the excellent AV Forums
website is to build out a false wall a few inches deep, to accommodate
cabling. The leads can be long enough to allow connecting up with the
TV while it's off the wall, and simply coil into the hollow space when
the set is mounted.

Thanks.

Instead of a false wall I have a chimney - so I can run the cables into
the chimney void and then have them drop down into the fireplace which
will be the AV/Hi-Fi cupboard.

The main issue is the "off the wall" bit but it is starting to seem less
of a problem as various options are suggested.

Cheers

Dave R



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In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?

Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

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*Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
the dog from that film you saw wrote:
never understood why people sometimes mount their tv so high.
nobody ever put their crt on a tv stand six foot tall after all - what
better level to put a tv than eye level?

Remember the BBC investigation into this (many years ago) for 'racks'
operators who set the camera exposure etc in a studio, so watch monitors
all day. The monitors were positioned slightly below their eye line.

I'm not surprised. I would have thought that the natural (and therefore
most restful) direction of human vision would be 10 to 15 degrees
downwards. It's the angle most of us have been watching TV at since the
1930s.
--
Ian

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David wrote:

Instead of a false wall I have a chimney - so I can run the cables into
the chimney void and then have them drop down into the fireplace which
will be the AV/Hi-Fi cupboard.

That's basically what I did, excuse the dodgy pictures, neither is a
before or after, they're both during!

http://www.adslpipe.co.uk/pics/soundproofing1.jpg
http://www.adslpipe.co.uk/pics/the_installation.jpg

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David, could you not sink a channel in the wall of the fireplace to
accommodate the cable run from its central entry point to where the TV's
connectors are?

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On 1/19/2015 11:11 AM, Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2015-01-19, Bob Latham wrote:

I would have to say I'm constantly coming across conflicts between
style and function. Many people I know go the style route and
sacrifice function. Me, I'm the opposite, get it to work at the
optimum then ask how to make it look the best we can. Our home
wouldn't win any competitions.

YMYA.

I've googled it but the best it came up with was young married young adult.

As I'm not young I don't think that's it. No idea.

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