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On 18 Jan 2015, David grunted:

Folding bracket?

That would need to be built like a garden gate that kids could swing
on!

Plasma TVs are seriously heavy, and mounting them flat takes a lot of
big screws.
A mounting which will support the weight on just one corner whilst the
TV swings out would require some serious metal work.

Well, that's exactly what I did myself. I mounted a 42" plasma TV on one of
these babies a few months ago: http://tinyurl.com/m7mnwj9 (or
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Invision%C2%...Mount-Bracket-
Cantilever/dp/B00393KNVQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)

So far, nobody has said "Well, what I did was..."

Well, what I did is in this thread, as I came here for lots of useful
advice: http://tinyurl.com/4kcmbx7 (or https://groups.google.com/forum/#!
msg/uk.d-i-y/sUgm-6g7y-E/WTkibLBhnGUJ)

The cantilever bracket is bloody brilliant; yes I took a hell of a lot of
care with the mounting (as that's always the weakest point) but it's as
firm as a rock, even when pulled right out from the wall. I'm confident I
could swing on the thing, never mind kids!

It goes very close to the wall when folded away. That's also helped by
having all the cables in the back with right-angled plugs or adapters,
readily ebayable. All cables are hidden from view by travelling inside a
couple of feet of plastic trunking buried in the wall and plastered over
(with a brushplate at either end). This has a large enough bore to enable
HDMI and Europlug cables etc to be stuffed down without needing to detach
the plugs. Oh and yes, it's mounted at eye level not above the fireplace.

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On 18/01/2015 20:29, Theo Markettos wrote:
In uk.d-i-y David wrote:
I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

Try some short extension cables, or right angle bends. This kind of thing:
http://cpc.farnell.com/hama/083010/h...deg/dp/AV21375
That will allow all the cables to hang down somewhere you can access them.

Theo


Alternatively just by an HDMI cable with a right angled end. For sale on
ebay with the right angle either way.


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phil m wrote:

Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting
severe neck ache. In fact, the most comfortable place was from the
conservatory, but we couldn't hear the sound very well.

My mate fits these for people, advertises his services. The main issue
is the height above floor level. People almost always want it too high.
Many ignore my friend's advice.

Bill

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Tim+ wrote:
David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

Way too high. Don't even think about it unless you hate television and
enjoy sore necks.

The correct height is your eye level when you're slumped on the sofa.
Anything higher will be a real pain in the arse. For God's sake, don't do
it unless you want to look like a chav out to impress the neighbours.

Yes. Good advice.

Bill

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"phil m" wrote in message
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On 18/01/2015 18:27, David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

All the important cable entries are to the back of the TV and so a right
sod to get at when the TV is on the wall because of the limited room
between TV and wall.

Between 75mm and 90mm depending on which connection so just enough for a
stiff cable to bend, but not a lot extra to line it up and fit it.

I've just measured my fist in "grasping" position and the distance from
the back of the hand to the finger tips is about 75mm - much the same as
a
clenched fist - so not a lot of space with my sized hands.

I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

I suppose I could stand the TV on some very high supports before lifting
it onto the brackets, but if I want to modify the cable connections at
all
then I would presumably have to lift the whole thing off again which is a
two person job.

I could space the TV further out from the wall (plenty of spare 18mm OSB
and quite a bit of other sheet material to space the bracket out from the
wall) and this seems to be the most obvious option - bring the TV further
out without compromising the strength of the bracket. Just need longer
fixings.

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have the
permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like PC, AVI
and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted systems?

Cheers

Dave R


Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting severe
neck ache. In fact, the most comfortable place was from the conservatory,
but we couldn't hear the sound very well.


It wants to be eye level when you're sat down too.
Mine is about 400mm from the floor.

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"David" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:26:10 +0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 18/01/15 18:27, David wrote:

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have
the permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like
PC, AVI and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted
systems?


Folding bracket?

That would need to be built like a garden gate that kids could swing on!

Plasma TVs are seriously heavy, and mounting them flat takes a lot of big
screws.
A mounting which will support the weight on just one corner whilst the TV
swings out would require some serious metal work.
Anyway, I have the mounting and wasn't planning to change it. :-)

So far, nobody has said "Well, what I did was..."

Best option so far looks to be spacing out another 18-25mm.


There are lots about. I have a tilt and swinvel one.
Mind you, it has serious fixings into a 200mm concrete block wall.

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On 18/01/2015 19:29, phil m wrote:

Be wary about mounting the screen too high. We stayed in a holiday
cottage where the screen was mounted over the mantelpiece and it was
impossible to watch from a normal viewing distance without getting
severe neck ache.
[snip]
Same here, it was remarkably uncomfortable.

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On 18/01/2015 18:27, David wrote:
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

All the important cable entries are to the back of the TV and so a right
sod to get at when the TV is on the wall because of the limited room
between TV and wall.

Between 75mm and 90mm depending on which connection so just enough for a
stiff cable to bend, but not a lot extra to line it up and fit it.

I've just measured my fist in "grasping" position and the distance from
the back of the hand to the finger tips is about 75mm - much the same as a
clenched fist - so not a lot of space with my sized hands.

I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

I suppose I could stand the TV on some very high supports before lifting
it onto the brackets, but if I want to modify the cable connections at all
then I would presumably have to lift the whole thing off again which is a
two person job.

I could space the TV further out from the wall (plenty of spare 18mm OSB
and quite a bit of other sheet material to space the bracket out from the
wall) and this seems to be the most obvious option - bring the TV further
out without compromising the strength of the bracket. Just need longer
fixings.

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have the
permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like PC, AVI
and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted systems?

Cheers

Dave R

Make a home-made pivoting mount.
What I did was to cut 4 lengths of extruded aluminium angle and drill a
6mm hole at the top of one face of each piece. Fix 2 lengths to the
mounting holes on the back of the TV (up/down) and carefully fix the
other 2 to the wall at the same spacing and the desired height (eye
height when sat down); in each case the face with the holes in is
"sticking out". Get someone to hold the TV against the wall so you can
pop a couple of bolts through the 2 holes and hang the TV; it now pivots
on those bolts and the viewing angle is set by a packing piece that goes
between the wall and the back of the TV. Access to cables is easy from
underneath because the whole TV pivots out on the bolts. The position of
the pivot holes (and hence the length of angle) needs to be thought
about so that the top of the TV doesn't hit the wall and stop the TV
pivoting before you can get to the connectors.

I did this a long time ago and it's worked well. It gives access, is
very strong, prevents easy TV theft, and is close to the wall.

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I'd have thought that Plasmas were not really long for this world by now in
any case. heavy generate rfi and often bloody hard to set up. Brian

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"David" wrote in message
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I'm re-mounting the 42" Panasonic plasma on the wall above the fireplace.

All the important cable entries are to the back of the TV and so a right
sod to get at when the TV is on the wall because of the limited room
between TV and wall.

Between 75mm and 90mm depending on which connection so just enough for a
stiff cable to bend, but not a lot extra to line it up and fit it.

I've just measured my fist in "grasping" position and the distance from
the back of the hand to the finger tips is about 75mm - much the same as a
clenched fist - so not a lot of space with my sized hands.

I can't really fit all the cables prior to mounting because they will be
coming through a hole in the wall roughly mid way to the back of the TV
and the connections are to one side.

I suppose I could stand the TV on some very high supports before lifting
it onto the brackets, but if I want to modify the cable connections at all
then I would presumably have to lift the whole thing off again which is a
two person job.

I could space the TV further out from the wall (plenty of spare 18mm OSB
and quite a bit of other sheet material to space the bracket out from the
wall) and this seems to be the most obvious option - bring the TV further
out without compromising the strength of the bracket. Just need longer
fixings.

So - how far out from the wall looks acceptable for a 42" TV?

How do others manage the cable connections (as most TVs seem to have the
permanent connections at the rear, and temporary connections like PC, AVI
and SD card on one side for easy access) on wall mounted systems?

Cheers

Dave R

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One solution adopted by a good few people on the excellent AV Forums website
is to build out a false wall a few inches deep, to accommodate cabling. The
leads can be long enough to allow connecting up with the TV while it's off
the wall, and simply coil into the hollow space when the set is mounted.