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These were all the rage when I was young, but most sounded very boxy of
course.
I remember our first home made mono one made by my father which you could
keep u your meal warm on as it was valve as well.
The fm/am tuner was switched to give all the stations you needed, IE
Luxumbourg and the bbc ones and a couple on fm, it was third program
mostly.
The record player was a bsr changer with a ceramic turn over needle amade
of saphire, which meant you wore them out in about three months.
One big WB speaker in the front and there you are it had bass and treble
and hummed when you put your hand neear the controls, so you could always
tell it was switched on withoug touching anything.

Was equipped with two aerials, one which ran over the curtain rail for FM
and a bit of wire under the carpet for am.

Later on it was added to with an input from a 405 line tv sound input and
this came from an old projector which showed programs on the wall above the
radio gram suitable painted white. The snag of course was that the bit of
the room from the projector, looking like a table, and the wall was a no go
area during tv watching hours.
The tv itself was supposed to be a back projection system, but it had its
scan coils reversed for this job. I'd imagine I got plenty of x rays off
that thing with its oil filled tripler and loud whining timebase, but we
never bothered with trivia like that back then.
Brian

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I used a Mullard MW 6-2 as a ray gun in the fifties, 25kv and
2.5" Dia, plenty of x-rays produced.

not sure if your reader can interpret this web page.

http://www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0291.htm

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 13:52:46 -0000, "Phi" wrote:

I used a Mullard MW 6-2 as a ray gun in the fifties, 25kv and
2.5" Dia, plenty of x-rays produced.

not sure if your reader can interpret this web page.

http://www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0291.htm

A long time ago I acquired one of these complete with optical assembly
and coils, and since the voltages appeared to be similar I connected
it up to the relevant feeds from a colour TV chassis. It worked quite
well, and could project a huge if not particularly bright or sharp
picture on the wall. If only I'd been able to get another two of them
perhaps I could have had colour.

Rod.

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On 16/01/2015 12:51, Brian Gaff wrote:
These were all the rage when I was young, but most sounded very boxy of
course.
I remember our first home made mono one made by my father which you could
keep u your meal warm on as it was valve as well.
The fm/am tuner was switched to give all the stations you needed, IE
Luxumbourg and the bbc ones and a couple on fm, it was third program
mostly.
The record player was a bsr changer with a ceramic turn over needle amade
of saphire, which meant you wore them out in about three months.
One big WB speaker in the front and there you are it had bass and treble
and hummed when you put your hand neear the controls, so you could always
tell it was switched on withoug touching anything.

Was equipped with two aerials, one which ran over the curtain rail for FM
and a bit of wire under the carpet for am.

Later on it was added to with an input from a 405 line tv sound input and
this came from an old projector which showed programs on the wall above the
radio gram suitable painted white. The snag of course was that the bit of
the room from the projector, looking like a table, and the wall was a no go
area during tv watching hours.
The tv itself was supposed to be a back projection system, but it had its
scan coils reversed for this job. I'd imagine I got plenty of x rays off
that thing with its oil filled tripler and loud whining timebase, but we
never bothered with trivia like that back then.
Brian





my parents had a lovely one - a proper piece of furniture.
i recall it sounding fantastic but chances are it didn't.
had one of those 'stack 7 singles to play in turn' record players and a
long radio tuning display that was about 24 inches long, it glowed in a
lovely orange when on.
sadly they got rid of it many moons ago - almost wish they had kept it
even if not for practical use.
--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

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Well I still had some of those Mullard projection tubes until quite recently
but the light box went when I discovered how good the mirror was at
lighting fires.

No don't ask.
Brian

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"Phi" wrote in message
...
I used a Mullard MW 6-2 as a ray gun in the fifties, 25kv and 2.5" Dia,
plenty of x-rays produced.

not sure if your reader can interpret this web page.

http://www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0291.htm

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That was done back in the70s by some misguided person as I recall. Rather
large device though.

That lens in the front was made of some kind of gel I think.


I also remember two things from those heady days of the 60s, we had a rat
in the tv once which was being chased by my granny, and one day I switched
it on and there was an almighty bang and bits of smelly silver paper went
everywhere.
Brian

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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 13:52:46 -0000, "Phi" wrote:

I used a Mullard MW 6-2 as a ray gun in the fifties, 25kv and
2.5" Dia, plenty of x-rays produced.

not sure if your reader can interpret this web page.

http://www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0291.htm

A long time ago I acquired one of these complete with optical assembly
and coils, and since the voltages appeared to be similar I connected
it up to the relevant feeds from a colour TV chassis. It worked quite
well, and could project a huge if not particularly bright or sharp
picture on the wall. If only I'd been able to get another two of them
perhaps I could have had colour.

Rod.

Next up Radiograms?
 

Ah yes dials, I used to like dials. a Dynatron radio was actually multi
coloured but it was only coloured paint on glass and cunningly designed
optics. Had a motorised tuning system for its presets, so the pointer moved
and you could hear it tuning when you pushed a preset. Very cunning and also
very prone to get stuck when it was older!
Sigh.
Strangely the cheap bakelite dropper run radios went on for ever even with
the huge blister in the top where the dropper cooked the cabinet.

Those things were lethal as the chassis was live and the aerial simply had
a capacitor between the terminal and the live set inside. Elf and Safety was
a bit naff in those days, yet none of us died despite regular belts off the
devices, Heck you could even pay for a shock at the amusement arcades and
get your feet s rayed in shoe shops back then.
Brian

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"the dog from that film you saw" wrote in
message ...
On 16/01/2015 12:51, Brian Gaff wrote:
These were all the rage when I was young, but most sounded very boxy of
course.
I remember our first home made mono one made by my father which you
could
keep u your meal warm on as it was valve as well.
The fm/am tuner was switched to give all the stations you needed, IE
Luxumbourg and the bbc ones and a couple on fm, it was third program
mostly.
The record player was a bsr changer with a ceramic turn over needle
amade
of saphire, which meant you wore them out in about three months.
One big WB speaker in the front and there you are it had bass and
treble
and hummed when you put your hand neear the controls, so you could always
tell it was switched on withoug touching anything.

Was equipped with two aerials, one which ran over the curtain rail for FM
and a bit of wire under the carpet for am.

Later on it was added to with an input from a 405 line tv sound input
and
this came from an old projector which showed programs on the wall above
the
radio gram suitable painted white. The snag of course was that the bit
of
the room from the projector, looking like a table, and the wall was a no
go
area during tv watching hours.
The tv itself was supposed to be a back projection system, but it had
its
scan coils reversed for this job. I'd imagine I got plenty of x rays off
that thing with its oil filled tripler and loud whining timebase, but we
never bothered with trivia like that back then.
Brian





my parents had a lovely one - a proper piece of furniture.
i recall it sounding fantastic but chances are it didn't.
had one of those 'stack 7 singles to play in turn' record players and a
long radio tuning display that was about 24 inches long, it glowed in a
lovely orange when on.
sadly they got rid of it many moons ago - almost wish they had kept it
even if not for practical use.
--
Gareth.
That fly.... Is your magic wand.

Next up Radiograms?
 

On 16/01/2015 17:22, the dog from that film you saw wrote:

had one of those 'stack 7 singles to play in turn' record players and a
long radio tuning display that was about 24 inches long, it glowed in a
lovely orange when on.

I have seen one with a 78rpm motor (and a + or - slider for some
variation but it certainly didn't get down to 45rpm) and a head
containing magnet and coil which took a steel needle held in by a screw.
It had an autochanger which could hold about 6 records, but unless
extra long play needles were used, you couldn't play 6 sides without it
going too blunt to be nice sound.

Jim

Next up Radiograms?
 

Up until the age of ~10 our house had DC mains, so I had various
ex military rotary transformers setup working in reverse to get
12, 28, 150 volts. When the mains was changed to AC, they
foolishly left all the old meters outside the houses for
collection.......I ended up with about 6 2lb jam jars full of
mercury.

Next up Radiograms?
 

On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:51:00 -0000
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

These were all the rage when I was young, but most sounded very boxy
of course.
I remember our first home made mono one made by my father which you
could keep u your meal warm on as it was valve as well.
The fm/am tuner was switched to give all the stations you needed, IE
Luxumbourg and the bbc ones and a couple on fm, it was third program
mostly.
The record player was a bsr changer with a ceramic turn over needle
amade of saphire, which meant you wore them out in about three months.
One big WB speaker in the front and there you are it had bass and
treble and hummed when you put your hand neear the controls, so you
could always tell it was switched on withoug touching anything.

Was equipped with two aerials, one which ran over the curtain rail
for FM and a bit of wire under the carpet for am.

Later on it was added to with an input from a 405 line tv sound
input and this came from an old projector which showed programs on
the wall above the radio gram suitable painted white. The snag of
course was that the bit of the room from the projector, looking like
a table, and the wall was a no go area during tv watching hours.
The tv itself was supposed to be a back projection system, but it
had its scan coils reversed for this job. I'd imagine I got plenty of
x rays off that thing with its oil filled tripler and loud whining
timebase, but we never bothered with trivia like that back then.
Brian


My parents had a wonderful PYE unit, again, a real piece of furniture,
with vertical spaces each side of the speaker box at the bottom for
records to be kept vertical. Each side had a door, too. The Tuning
Scale had several short wave bands, and wonderful names like Hilversum,
which were exotic to a young lad.
I removed the chassis and turntable and took them up to university with
me so that I had a way to play records. I was very careful to unplug it
each morning so that the cleaning lady didn't electrocute herself if
she touched anything, as it was totally exposed. H&S would kill me now.
This was a few years ago.

--
Davey.

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What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

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On 16/01/2015 20:03, Woody wrote:
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


I remember speakers with a field coil rather than a permanent magnet.
They always had plenty of bass.

Jim

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Indy Jess John wrote:
On 16/01/2015 20:03, Woody wrote:
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


I remember speakers with a field coil rather than a permanent magnet.
They always had plenty of bass.

Jim


Oh yes, I had one of them. It was the loudest wireless we ever had. It
had a gram input so I used to play my 78s on it. Really belted them out!

And it had a motor to turn the tuning knob!

Bill

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In article ,
Indy Jess John wrote:
On 16/01/2015 20:03, Woody wrote:
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


I remember speakers with a field coil rather than a permanent magnet.
They always had plenty of bass.

Indeed, the field coil was used as a choke on the HT supply.

--
From KT24 in Surrey

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Ah yes dials, I used to like dials. a Dynatron radio was actually multi
coloured but it was only coloured paint on glass and cunningly designed
optics. Had a motorised tuning system for its presets, so the pointer
moved and you could hear it tuning when you pushed a preset. Very cunning
and also very prone to get stuck when it was older!
Sigh.
Strangely the cheap bakelite dropper run radios went on for ever even with
the huge blister in the top where the dropper cooked the cabinet.

Those things were lethal as the chassis was live and the aerial simply had
a capacitor between the terminal and the live set inside. Elf and Safety
was a bit naff in those days, yet none of us died despite regular belts
off the devices, Heck you could even pay for a shock at the amusement
arcades and get your feet s rayed in shoe shops back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedoscope

You stuck your feet in the slot at the bottom of the column and could see
the bones of your feet inside the outline of the shoe. There were extra
viewing ports at the side so a parent and shop assistant could see too.

--
Max Demian

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Black market Mercury? Just as well you did not store it in aluminium cans
then.
Even at school in the late 50s/early 60s, we could legally handle mercury
in class.
Brian

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"Phi" wrote in message
...
Up until the age of ~10 our house had DC mains, so I had various ex
military rotary transformers setup working in reverse to get 12, 28, 150
volts. When the mains was changed to AC, they foolishly left all the old
meters outside the houses for collection.......I ended up with about 6 2lb
jam jars full of mercury.

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And who remembers Pathe discs. What idiot used 90 rpm and starting in the
middle and playing outwards?

Brian

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"Indy Jess John" wrote in message
...
On 16/01/2015 17:22, the dog from that film you saw wrote:

had one of those 'stack 7 singles to play in turn' record players and a
long radio tuning display that was about 24 inches long, it glowed in a
lovely orange when on.

I have seen one with a 78rpm motor (and a + or - slider for some variation
but it certainly didn't get down to 45rpm) and a head containing magnet
and coil which took a steel needle held in by a screw. It had an
autochanger which could hold about 6 records, but unless extra long play
needles were used, you couldn't play 6 sides without it going too blunt to
be nice sound.

Jim

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Yes when I was very young I had a bare radio like that but my parents put it
out of reach on top of the wardrobe and only let me switch it on and off via
a toggle switch in the mains lead.
It is really amazing so many of use survived when I look back at the things
we got up to.
Pyro mania with magnifiers off the front of tvs, That wonderful smell of
burning resistors and transformers when as long as there was still sound
coming out one ignored the smoke.


Brian

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"Davey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:51:00 -0000
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

These were all the rage when I was young, but most sounded very boxy
of course.
I remember our first home made mono one made by my father which you
could keep u your meal warm on as it was valve as well.
The fm/am tuner was switched to give all the stations you needed, IE
Luxumbourg and the bbc ones and a couple on fm, it was third program
mostly.
The record player was a bsr changer with a ceramic turn over needle
amade of saphire, which meant you wore them out in about three months.
One big WB speaker in the front and there you are it had bass and
treble and hummed when you put your hand neear the controls, so you
could always tell it was switched on withoug touching anything.

Was equipped with two aerials, one which ran over the curtain rail
for FM and a bit of wire under the carpet for am.

Later on it was added to with an input from a 405 line tv sound
input and this came from an old projector which showed programs on
the wall above the radio gram suitable painted white. The snag of
course was that the bit of the room from the projector, looking like
a table, and the wall was a no go area during tv watching hours.
The tv itself was supposed to be a back projection system, but it
had its scan coils reversed for this job. I'd imagine I got plenty of
x rays off that thing with its oil filled tripler and loud whining
timebase, but we never bothered with trivia like that back then.
Brian


My parents had a wonderful PYE unit, again, a real piece of furniture,
with vertical spaces each side of the speaker box at the bottom for
records to be kept vertical. Each side had a door, too. The Tuning
Scale had several short wave bands, and wonderful names like Hilversum,
which were exotic to a young lad.
I removed the chassis and turntable and took them up to university with
me so that I had a way to play records. I was very careful to unplug it
each morning so that the cleaning lady didn't electrocute herself if
she touched anything, as it was totally exposed. H&S would kill me now.
This was a few years ago.

--
Davey.

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Yes Decca used a lot of that sort of speaker. the big problem for anything
with integrated speakers was feedback to the pick up of course. I recall
someone finding that the speakers in one Decca were very capable of good
bass, but they had a bass cut fitted in the input to the amp to stop deep
howlround effects.

I am constantly reminded of radiograms when I hear about sound bars for
tvs...
Brian

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"Woody" wrote in message
...
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever there
was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous EMI 6"x9"
which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of the sixties
often used.

Ah, them were't days.


--
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harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

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And hum. Some even used the whole things as a transformer. Another wheeze
was a gram motor that was also a transformer for the mains. I think the main
use of the field coil was a choke for the psu.
Were magnets that hard to make back then? I had one from a speaker that if
you put it on the side of the fridge it took two people to remove it.
Bit like Magnatron magnets.

Brian

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"Indy Jess John" wrote in message
...
On 16/01/2015 20:03, Woody wrote:
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


I remember speakers with a field coil rather than a permanent magnet.
They always had plenty of bass.

Jim

Next up Radiograms?
 

I've seen a few published discs intended to be played at 80rpm.
Perhaps somebody thought it was a nicer number. Frankly the tolerance
wasn't that great anyway, hence the speed control on most players.

As for starting in the centre, it was normal for professional
broadcast recordings, and I think early movie soundtracks, to use edge
and centre starts on altenate discs, so that the change in background
noise would be less noticeable.

Rod.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 09:09:58 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

And who remembers Pathe discs. What idiot used 90 rpm and starting in the
middle and playing outwards?

Brian

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"Indy Jess John" wrote in message
...
On 16/01/2015 17:22, the dog from that film you saw wrote:

had one of those 'stack 7 singles to play in turn' record players and a
long radio tuning display that was about 24 inches long, it glowed in a
lovely orange when on.

I have seen one with a 78rpm motor (and a + or - slider for some variation
but it certainly didn't get down to 45rpm) and a head containing magnet
and coil which took a steel needle held in by a screw. It had an
autochanger which could hold about 6 records, but unless extra long play
needles were used, you couldn't play 6 sides without it going too blunt to
be nice sound.

Jim

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 23:42:31 -0000
"Max Demian" wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Ah yes dials, I used to like dials. a Dynatron radio was actually
multi coloured but it was only coloured paint on glass and
cunningly designed optics. Had a motorised tuning system for its
presets, so the pointer moved and you could hear it tuning when you
pushed a preset. Very cunning and also very prone to get stuck when
it was older! Sigh.
Strangely the cheap bakelite dropper run radios went on for ever
even with the huge blister in the top where the dropper cooked the
cabinet.

Those things were lethal as the chassis was live and the aerial
simply had a capacitor between the terminal and the live set
inside. Elf and Safety was a bit naff in those days, yet none of us
died despite regular belts off the devices, Heck you could even pay
for a shock at the amusement arcades and get your feet s rayed in
shoe shops back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedoscope

You stuck your feet in the slot at the bottom of the column and could
see the bones of your feet inside the outline of the shoe. There were
extra viewing ports at the side so a parent and shop assistant could
see too.


Yep, remember those.

--
Davey.

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 09:07:27 -0000
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

Black market Mercury? Just as well you did not store it in aluminium
cans then.
Even at school in the late 50s/early 60s, we could legally handle
mercury in class.
Brian


Including chasing it around the desktop with bare fingers. Imagine
that now.

--
Davey.

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
And who remembers Pathe discs. What idiot used 90 rpm and starting in the
middle and playing outwards?

Well modern optical discs start in the middle. It would just be difficult to
position the needle manually in the start grooves.

--
Max Demian

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
And hum.

The so-called "mains energised" speakers had a "hum-bucking coil" in series
with the voice coil to cancel out induced mains hum.

Some even used the whole things as a transformer. Another wheeze was a
gram motor that was also a transformer for the mains. I think the main use
of the field coil was a choke for the psu.
Were magnets that hard to make back then? I had one from a speaker that if
you put it on the side of the fridge it took two people to remove it.
Bit like Magnatron magnets.

I think decent magnets that kept their magnetism were large and/or expensive
in the 30s.

--
Max Demian

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 14:13:08 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:


Well modern optical discs start in the middle. It would just be difficult to
position the needle manually in the start grooves.

Different design requirements. The start of the track on an optical
disc is optimised for focusing servos, and the start of the track on a
gramophone disc is optimised for human beings with right hands.

Rod.

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Black market Mercury? Just as well you did not store it in aluminium cans
then.
Even at school in the late 50s/early 60s, we could legally handle mercury
in class.

A schoolmate of mine used to nick it from the school and sell it to some
shop somewhere.

--
Max Demian

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:55:31 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

I've seen a few published discs intended to be played at 80rpm.
Perhaps somebody thought it was a nicer number. Frankly the tolerance
wasn't that great anyway, hence the speed control on most players.

As for starting in the centre, it was normal for professional
broadcast recordings, and I think early movie soundtracks, to use edge
and centre starts on altenate discs, so that the change in background
noise would be less noticeable.

Rod.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 09:09:58 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

And who remembers Pathe discs. What idiot used 90 rpm and starting in the
middle and playing outwards?

Brian

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"Indy Jess John" wrote in message
...
On 16/01/2015 17:22, the dog from that film you saw wrote:

had one of those 'stack 7 singles to play in turn' record players and a
long radio tuning display that was about 24 inches long, it glowed in a
lovely orange when on.

I have seen one with a 78rpm motor (and a + or - slider for some variation
but it certainly didn't get down to 45rpm) and a head containing magnet
and coil which took a steel needle held in by a screw. It had an
autochanger which could hold about 6 records, but unless extra long play
needles were used, you couldn't play 6 sides without it going too blunt to
be nice sound.

Jim



They were cut vertically rather than laterally.
I have no doubt they did things differently to avoid paying royalties.



--

Graham.

%Profound_observation%

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"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Indy Jess John wrote:
On 16/01/2015 20:03, Woody wrote:
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the
ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players
of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


I remember speakers with a field coil rather than a permanent
magnet.
They always had plenty of bass.

Indeed, the field coil was used as a choke on the HT supply.



Ah, the old hum bucking coil - and yes I did spell that correctly!


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

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Davey wrote:

You stuck your feet in the slot at the bottom of the column and could
see the bones of your feet inside the outline of the shoe. There were
extra viewing ports at the side so a parent and shop assistant could
see too.


Yep, remember those.


So that's why my feet fell off when I was 10!

Bill

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Davey wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 09:07:27 -0000
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

Black market Mercury? Just as well you did not store it in aluminium
cans then.
Even at school in the late 50s/early 60s, we could legally handle
mercury in class.
Brian


Including chasing it around the desktop with bare fingers. Imagine
that now.

We weren't allowed to drink it though, because of the cost.

Bill

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In article ,
says...

As for starting in the centre, it was normal for professional
broadcast recordings, and I think early movie soundtracks, to use edge
and centre starts on altenate discs, so that the change in background
noise would be less noticeable.

I understood that they always played 'inside out'. The reasoning being that,
as the old shellac discs were likely to sustain damage mainly on the edges,
that any problems with needle skip or jump would only upset the lip sync at
the very end of the reel rather than all the way through.

--

Terry

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On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 18:09:51 -0000, Terry Casey
wrote:


As for starting in the centre, it was normal for professional
broadcast recordings, and I think early movie soundtracks, to use edge
and centre starts on altenate discs, so that the change in background
noise would be less noticeable.

I understood that they always played 'inside out'. The reasoning being that,
as the old shellac discs were likely to sustain damage mainly on the edges,
that any problems with needle skip or jump would only upset the lip sync at
the very end of the reel rather than all the way through.

If you're talking about movie soundtracks you could be right, because
I have had no personal involvement with that, but I once knew someone
who had actually done sound recordings for radio using pairs of 17"
disc recorders, and he told me they did track alternate discs in
opposite directions because of the surface noise. They recorded 6
minutes per side, the first and last 2 minutes overlapping with
neighbouring discs to give time to synchronise them on prefade for
playback. We've come a long way since then.

Rod.

Next up Radiograms?
 

In article ,
says...

If you're talking about movie soundtracks you could be right, because
I have had no personal involvement with that, but I once knew someone
who had actually done sound recordings for radio using pairs of 17"
disc recorders, and he told me they did track alternate discs in
opposite directions because of the surface noise. They recorded 6
minutes per side, the first and last 2 minutes overlapping with
neighbouring discs to give time to synchronise them on prefade for
playback. We've come a long way since then.


I recently transcribed the contents of a classical magazine cover mounted CD
onto my mp3 player. One track was Elgar's Violin Concerto in B Minor. When I
played it I noticed that it was a mono recording then, towards the middle,
during a fairly quiet passage, heard the once familiar shsh - shsh - shsh
sound of a 78rpm record!

The recording is 13' 10" long and I've since replayed it about three times
but no way can I spot any of the joins!

--

Terry