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What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


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On 16/01/2015 20:03, Woody wrote:
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


I remember speakers with a field coil rather than a permanent magnet.
They always had plenty of bass.

Jim

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Indy Jess John wrote:
On 16/01/2015 20:03, Woody wrote:
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


I remember speakers with a field coil rather than a permanent magnet.
They always had plenty of bass.

Jim


Oh yes, I had one of them. It was the loudest wireless we ever had. It
had a gram input so I used to play my 78s on it. Really belted them out!

And it had a motor to turn the tuning knob!

Bill

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Indy Jess John wrote:
On 16/01/2015 20:03, Woody wrote:
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


I remember speakers with a field coil rather than a permanent magnet.
They always had plenty of bass.

Indeed, the field coil was used as a choke on the HT supply.

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Ah yes dials, I used to like dials. a Dynatron radio was actually multi
coloured but it was only coloured paint on glass and cunningly designed
optics. Had a motorised tuning system for its presets, so the pointer
moved and you could hear it tuning when you pushed a preset. Very cunning
and also very prone to get stuck when it was older!
Sigh.
Strangely the cheap bakelite dropper run radios went on for ever even with
the huge blister in the top where the dropper cooked the cabinet.

Those things were lethal as the chassis was live and the aerial simply had
a capacitor between the terminal and the live set inside. Elf and Safety
was a bit naff in those days, yet none of us died despite regular belts
off the devices, Heck you could even pay for a shock at the amusement
arcades and get your feet s rayed in shoe shops back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedoscope

You stuck your feet in the slot at the bottom of the column and could see
the bones of your feet inside the outline of the shoe. There were extra
viewing ports at the side so a parent and shop assistant could see too.

--
Max Demian

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Black market Mercury? Just as well you did not store it in aluminium cans
then.
Even at school in the late 50s/early 60s, we could legally handle mercury
in class.
Brian

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Up until the age of ~10 our house had DC mains, so I had various ex
military rotary transformers setup working in reverse to get 12, 28, 150
volts. When the mains was changed to AC, they foolishly left all the old
meters outside the houses for collection.......I ended up with about 6 2lb
jam jars full of mercury.

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And who remembers Pathe discs. What idiot used 90 rpm and starting in the
middle and playing outwards?

Brian

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had one of those 'stack 7 singles to play in turn' record players and a
long radio tuning display that was about 24 inches long, it glowed in a
lovely orange when on.

I have seen one with a 78rpm motor (and a + or - slider for some variation
but it certainly didn't get down to 45rpm) and a head containing magnet
and coil which took a steel needle held in by a screw. It had an
autochanger which could hold about 6 records, but unless extra long play
needles were used, you couldn't play 6 sides without it going too blunt to
be nice sound.

Jim

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Yes when I was very young I had a bare radio like that but my parents put it
out of reach on top of the wardrobe and only let me switch it on and off via
a toggle switch in the mains lead.
It is really amazing so many of use survived when I look back at the things
we got up to.
Pyro mania with magnifiers off the front of tvs, That wonderful smell of
burning resistors and transformers when as long as there was still sound
coming out one ignored the smoke.


Brian

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"Davey" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:51:00 -0000
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

These were all the rage when I was young, but most sounded very boxy
of course.
I remember our first home made mono one made by my father which you
could keep u your meal warm on as it was valve as well.
The fm/am tuner was switched to give all the stations you needed, IE
Luxumbourg and the bbc ones and a couple on fm, it was third program
mostly.
The record player was a bsr changer with a ceramic turn over needle
amade of saphire, which meant you wore them out in about three months.
One big WB speaker in the front and there you are it had bass and
treble and hummed when you put your hand neear the controls, so you
could always tell it was switched on withoug touching anything.

Was equipped with two aerials, one which ran over the curtain rail
for FM and a bit of wire under the carpet for am.

Later on it was added to with an input from a 405 line tv sound
input and this came from an old projector which showed programs on
the wall above the radio gram suitable painted white. The snag of
course was that the bit of the room from the projector, looking like
a table, and the wall was a no go area during tv watching hours.
The tv itself was supposed to be a back projection system, but it
had its scan coils reversed for this job. I'd imagine I got plenty of
x rays off that thing with its oil filled tripler and loud whining
timebase, but we never bothered with trivia like that back then.
Brian


My parents had a wonderful PYE unit, again, a real piece of furniture,
with vertical spaces each side of the speaker box at the bottom for
records to be kept vertical. Each side had a door, too. The Tuning
Scale had several short wave bands, and wonderful names like Hilversum,
which were exotic to a young lad.
I removed the chassis and turntable and took them up to university with
me so that I had a way to play records. I was very careful to unplug it
each morning so that the cleaning lady didn't electrocute herself if
she touched anything, as it was totally exposed. H&S would kill me now.
This was a few years ago.

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Yes Decca used a lot of that sort of speaker. the big problem for anything
with integrated speakers was feedback to the pick up of course. I recall
someone finding that the speakers in one Decca were very capable of good
bass, but they had a bass cut fitted in the input to the amp to stop deep
howlround effects.

I am constantly reminded of radiograms when I hear about sound bars for
tvs...
Brian

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"Woody" wrote in message
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What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever there
was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous EMI 6"x9"
which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of the sixties
often used.

Ah, them were't days.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

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And hum. Some even used the whole things as a transformer. Another wheeze
was a gram motor that was also a transformer for the mains. I think the main
use of the field coil was a choke for the psu.
Were magnets that hard to make back then? I had one from a speaker that if
you put it on the side of the fridge it took two people to remove it.
Bit like Magnatron magnets.

Brian

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"Indy Jess John" wrote in message
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On 16/01/2015 20:03, Woody wrote:
What most people overlook is that those sort of units used decent
speakers, either a Whiteley 8" or 10" (a 'proper' speaker is ever
there was one,) or as the space available deminished the ubiquitous
EMI 6"x9" which many many radios, radiograms, and record players of
the sixties often used.

Ah, them were't days.


I remember speakers with a field coil rather than a permanent magnet.
They always had plenty of bass.

Jim